I haven't got the transcript to hand but from memory the Judge finished up by saying something like "whoever makes a submission such as you have suggested should be aware they are missing the point" - legend!
Posts by besty
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18WT Lawyer trying to force His Honour to allow Miss Apple to garner more info showing how good WT is
by umbertoecho inhello to all who are watching.
his honour is being tested by wt lawyer in the last thirty minutes of day 4. the lawyer wants to bring in updates on the societies handling of child molestation cases.. his honour tells the lawyer that if he "lawyer" wants a contest between who is better than who....forget it.. his honour is slightly pissed off as wt lawyer just won't back down and insists that this evidence is very important and........"progressive" ( i think ) his honour then continues to tell nice wt jerk type lawyer, that if he thinks this will dispel all that happened to past victims..........think again.. i rough summary but fairly accurate people......god, that wt lawyer is a hateful lying, scheming son of a bitch........
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[Humour] Closing Presentation by Religion to the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission
by jwleaks injw leaks - thank you to those who have contributed to the child abuse royal commission.. .
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besty
sunlight is the best disinfectant -
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Relative technical sophistication of religious websites
by besty ina quick summary of website trackers used by:.
jw.org - 0 trackers (not even google analytics - wow - they really are in broadcast mode) pagerank 5. mormon.org - 5 trackers - incl.
2 kinds of visitor analytics - they are spending $$ on this as a pro-active campaign with measurable results - pagerank 6. churchofgod.org - similar to jw.org - pagerank 4. adventist.org - google analytics only - pagerank 6. catholic.org - 26 trackers incl.
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besty
just thought I would revisit this after a few years - and guess what - the JW techies couldn't resist a wee bit of visitor tracking...seems in general there is tracker inflation going on....
jw.org - 8 trackers on the home page - need to check this as they disappeared when I browsed back to the home page
mormon.org - 20 trackers incl Google Analytics
adventist.org - 2 trackers incl. Google Analytics
churchofgod.org - 2 trackers incl. Google Analytics
scientology.org - 14 trackers incl. Google Analytics
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Jehovah's Witness meets a Born Again Christian on a Train. Oh and a Muslim
by passwordprotected ina couple of saturdays ago i and my girlfriend (who happens to be baptised into the greek orthodox religion, but practises greek catholic...no, she's not greek) were on the virgin train from glasgow to london.. we had reserved seats on the quiet zone of the train, because y'know, a 5 hour train journey shouldn't be sullied by mobile phones ringing and noisy conversations.. somewhere around the lake district a very tall woman sits at the table across the carriage from us, a table already occupied by a very chatty, bearded man in his late 50s, along with his wife.
this man was directing people where to stow their luggage and asking random travellers questions about their journey to the point where i sent my girlfriend a text message (easier to communicate that way without others overhearing us) asking if he was the "train boss".. he struck up a conversation with this new passenger about his travels, but i wasn't really paying attention as i was watching a movie on my ipad, wearing noise cancelling headphones.
after a little while i noticed they'd stopped chatting and the woman was now reading.
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besty
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Jehovah's Witness meets a Born Again Christian on a Train. Oh and a Muslim
by passwordprotected ina couple of saturdays ago i and my girlfriend (who happens to be baptised into the greek orthodox religion, but practises greek catholic...no, she's not greek) were on the virgin train from glasgow to london.. we had reserved seats on the quiet zone of the train, because y'know, a 5 hour train journey shouldn't be sullied by mobile phones ringing and noisy conversations.. somewhere around the lake district a very tall woman sits at the table across the carriage from us, a table already occupied by a very chatty, bearded man in his late 50s, along with his wife.
this man was directing people where to stow their luggage and asking random travellers questions about their journey to the point where i sent my girlfriend a text message (easier to communicate that way without others overhearing us) asking if he was the "train boss".. he struck up a conversation with this new passenger about his travels, but i wasn't really paying attention as i was watching a movie on my ipad, wearing noise cancelling headphones.
after a little while i noticed they'd stopped chatting and the woman was now reading.
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besty
ah you should have weighed in Mark ;-)
I think you could have argued they were in breach of the 'do not make unnecessary noise' instruction for the Quiet Coach
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Fun at The WT This Morning
by OneFingerSalute inso ofs was at the wt this morning, and on par.
14 the question was, "what trust can a faithful christian whose relative is disfellowshipped have?".
after awhile when no one else raised their hands ofs did, and was called on.. ofs commented, "one of jw can have the trust that god will lovingly give them the ability to uphold the disfellowshipping arrangement by totally shunning family members.".
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besty
google this:
site:jw_dot_org shunned
edit - obviously use the proper domain name and not the underscores :-)
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2015 Regional Convention Anthony Morris Governing Body encourages coerced baptism of unwilling children ...again
by Watchtower-Free inthis is from the last talk of the convention ......... clip 1:30 minutes longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrej8tlyiso&feature=youtu.be.
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besty
"unless you're a toddler"
toddlerˈtɒdlə/noun- a young child who is just beginning to walk.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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WT loses appeal in UK!!!!!!!
by Viva la Vida inthe wt lost its appeals regarding the charity commission inquiry.
here is the ruling:.
http://www.charity.tribunals.gov.uk/documents/decisions/watch-tower-ruling-03mar15.pdf.
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besty
what the Watchtower says:
"Child abuse is abhorrent.”
what the Watchtower does:
19. The period of delay in making the application to the Tribunal is one of over six months. I consider that this to be a significant and serious period of delay, especially in the context of the nature of the Respondent’s concerns in this case. I give weight to the fact that the Respondent’s inquiry and Production Order relate to safeguarding matters which could, as I have noted above, logically concern on-going risks to people who are still children.
They have planned a litigation strategy which a judge states involves ongoing risk to children.
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Who Is Engineering the Re-branding of Jehovahs Witnesses
by millie210 inis it an outside source?.
an inside job?
maybe the younger gb "helpers"?.
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besty
If they abandon shunning and permit whole blood transfusions it's significant
The rest is just window dressing and a reminder who is holding the leash.