Posts by cyborgVision

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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.

by cyborgVision in

hi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :) .

one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.

it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.

Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.

by cyborgVision in

hi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :) .

one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.

it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.

cyborgVision

First of all I want to apologies for accidentally posting this question twice, well I?m just a newbie so I hope I?ll be forgiven ;)

Thank you tijkmo and purplesofa for excellent feedback in the clone thread.
CLONE THREAD

I think this question hits right into the nerve of what each one of us holds dear and what in reality we all want to live for, marriage, children or some shadowy existence, or in essence what is the real purpose of life.
If we want to believe the Genesis account then it would also imply that at least theoretically Adam?s and Eve?s marriage would last forever.
And the purpose was?, well to have children and populate the earth. This is consequently a natural tendency of all people anywhere to see that as the ultimate way to happiness as Qcmbr's comments well illustrate (thanx for the post by the way :)). No wonder that then many JW struggle with the concept of having only angel-like existence, primarily because angels would be of completely different sort (asexual or male-like-only creatures).

Reason why I posted this question was because of seeing many people quietly suffer because of whole confusion and WT apparent inability to set the matter straight.

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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.

by cyborgVision in

hi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :) .

one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.

it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.

cyborgVision

Good point, thanx BluesBrother. I like your reasoning. I'm not sure what to believe myself anymore, but I'm sure truth must be out there, somewhere ... anywhere :) And thank you for welcome!

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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.

by cyborgVision in

hi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :) .

one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.

it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.

cyborgVision

Thanks for the welcome Country_Woman :)

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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.

by cyborgVision in

hi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :) .

one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.

it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.

cyborgVision

That is certainly an interesting article nicolaou. However, checking all scriptures that were referenced I cannot but wonder if that is correct understanding.

Firstly, Sadducees have correctly understood Hebrew teachings and expectations. Hence, they were asking about Earthly hope of resurrection. Hebrew scripture that this article outlines seem to at least in principle confirm what people up to Jesus? time have believed about resurrection. So, question they asked was in place. Jesus seems to be correcting their understanding in the matter by referring to heavenly resurrection. Scriptures that were taken from New Testament certainly do not give a hint that people are to expect earthly resurrection.
Read scriptures below and judge for yourself. And how 2 Cor. 4:4; Mark 10:30 confirm earthly hope for mankind is beyond me.

Having, said that I understand what Lord ?s Prayer says with reference to the earth. Nonetheless, that can?t be really discerned from Jesus? answer about the resurrection.

Can it? Someone correct me please!

here are the scriptures:

Actually David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ?Jehovah said to my Lord: ?Sit at my right hand (Acts 2:34)

19 Therefore, brothers, since we have boldness for the way of entry into the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 which he inaugurated for us as a new and living way through the curtain, that is, his flesh
(Hebrews 10:19, 20)

31 As regards the resurrection of the dead, did YOU not read what was spoken to YOU by God, saying, 32 ?I am the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob?? He is the God, not of the dead, but of the living.?
Matthew 22:31

37 But that the dead are raised up even Moses disclosed, in the account about the thornbush, when he calls Jehovah ?the God of Abraham and God of Isaac and God of Jacob.? 38 He is a God, not of the dead, but of the living, for they are all living to him.?
Luke 20: 37, 38

11 Truly I say to YOU people, Among those born of women there has not been raised up a greater than John the Baptist; but a person that is a lesser one in the kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is.
Matthew 11:11

////This is the only scripture that has some weight toward WTs argument but it could be still understood as saying something completely different. E.g. referring to Johns current status or alike/////

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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.

by cyborgVision in

hi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :)

one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.

it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.

cyborgVision

My mistake. Posted it twice by accident. Go to: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/87808/1.ashx
Sorry for confusion

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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.

by cyborgVision in

hi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :)

one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.

it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.

cyborgVision

My mistake. Posted it twice by accident. Go to: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/87808/1.ashx
Sorry for confusion

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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.

by cyborgVision in

hi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :) .

one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.

it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.

cyborgVision

Thanx FlyingHighNow :)

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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.

by cyborgVision in

hi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :)

one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.

it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.

cyborgVision

Hi everybody, since this is my first post I hope everyone is going to be kind to me :) One thing that kind of bothers me, and I?ve seen it bothering many honest JWs (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies. It is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation. Reason why is because most JWs are aware of Jesus? troubling comment from 20:27-38 i.e. answering on the question posed by Sadducees about a wife that had seven husbands, and the question whose wife will she be at the resurrection. It gets really complicated for believing JW how expect to live here on Earth forever.

So Jesus answers "34 ?The children of this system of things marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who have been counted worthy of gaining that system of things and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. 36 In fact, neither can they die anymore, for they are like the angels, and they are God?s children by being children of the resurrection."

Not only does this answer seem to suggest that married mates will not be reunited but that they will have the same nature as angels in the heavens. This in itself is even more troubling because it seems to be talking only about heavenly resurrection and not earthly resurrection. Or am I in some way completely missing the point?!? The fact is no one was able to give me satisfactory answer while I was still attending meeting. Hope to get some meaningful answers here.
You can make cute answers too, but please refrain from derogatory comments as this issue is of tremendous importance to many believers.

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Will married partners reunite at resurrection? And what does that imply.

by cyborgVision in

hi everybody, since this is my first post i hope everyone is going to be kind to me :) .

one thing that kind of bothers me, and i?ve seen it bothering many honest jws (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies.

it is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.

cyborgVision

Hi everybody, since this is my first post I hope everyone is going to be kind to me :)

One thing that kind of bothers me, and I?ve seen it bothering many honest JWs (yes there are such ones) is whether they should remarry after their mate dies. It is the issue that, in my experience, many do not even dare to confront, at least from older generation.
Reason why is because most JWs are aware of Jesus? troubling comment from 20:27-38
i.e. answering on the question posed by Sadducees about a wife that had seven husbands, and the question whose wife will she be at the resurrection.
It gets really complicated for believing JW how expect to live here on Earth forever.

So Jesus answers "34 ?The children of this system of things marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who have been counted worthy of gaining that system of things and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. 36 In fact, neither can they die anymore, for they are like the angels, and they are God?s children by being children of the resurrection."

Not only does this answer seem to suggest that married mates will not be reunited but that they will have the same nature as angels in the heavens. This in itself is even more troubling because it seems to be talking only about heavenly resurrection and not earthly resurrection. Or am I in some way completely missing the point?!? The fact is no one was able to give me satisfactory answer while I was still attending meeting. Hope to get some meaningful answers here.
You can make cute answers too, but please refrain from derogatory comments as this issue is of tremendous importance to many believers.