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  "Federal contracts should be performed by WHITE workers"

  by jst2laws in

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  but the article quoted below makes an excellent point about american protectionism.

  i will quote the first three paragraphs of steven e. landsburg of the university of rochester.

  the article is "xenophobia and politics ?

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  Hi Robert,

  Where is this greater wealth the "world market" is creating? Oh, I remember now, that top 2% of the population. Free trade is a myth (ask any African national economist). Neo-conservative economics theory is good for a laugh but that's all. The de-industrialization of the American economy does not portend well for the U.S. future (pretty much aside from wealthy "white" people"-so don't worry, they're taken care of inside their fortified gated communities!).

  I have to laugh at people like Ms. Rand and would love to put them in a country like the Congo and see how well they function in a society of like-minded individuals (their life experience is just a little too narrow to appreciate retraint in others). While greater "trading blocs" can improve some trade sectors, the costs of such national specialization are only now becoming obvious even to people like Lou Dobbs!

  Sorry, I watched Grapes of Wrath last night!

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  saying hi

  by tijkmo in

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  hi im new to the world....been lurking for a while but cant keep quiet any more...so much to say so much time...as an intro can i ask if anyone else begged grovelled pleaded lost their dignity in order to get reinstated only to find that it was worse than being d/fd cos at least when you were d/fd you knew why all your friends treated you like crap

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  Welcome T.

  When you put it like that way, it reminds me of the perils of friendship as a JW youth (not knowing who you could trust, to back you up, etc...). I used to think that must be what it was like in the Soviet Union during Stalin's time. Friends continually observing and evaluating their other freinds. This was really distastful to me as a kid and a major factor in my evaluation of why I was still participating in this org.

  Will keep an eye peeled for your upcoming posts!

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  How do you women feel about acting stupid to please men and the borg?

  by Dragonlady76 in

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  the quote below was part of a talk in the 90's.

  i heard this as a child and thought to myself, how can any woman accept such a draconian veiw?

  i was not sure if i had understood correctly so, i brought it up to my bible study conductor maggie, i was appalled that she agreed with this veiw, we debated it back and forth, until i got the upper hand, then she told me that i was to "rebellious and strong willed", and that i "should never get married", that i way i would not have to submit to male "headshit" "headship".

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  Hey Ladies,

  If you want a good laugh, look up Aristophanes's sex comedy play "Lysistrata" -talk about "girl power"!

  (should be in most introductory literature anthologies)

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  Has this board exploded with activity?

  by IP_SEC in

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  sorry i just used that subject to get a lot of views.

  now for the real reason of this topic.

  is it just me or has this board exploded with activity?

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  Wouldn't know, new in town!

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  hello you!!!

  by becks in

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  hi i am a newbie!!

  i dont want to put a big post about my life here just yet, because, well, its just not that interesting!

  i am here to learn, meet new people and find a bit about myself.

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  Welcome Becks!

  There's a lot of "food for thought" here courtesy of a lot of hard-working and very bright people!

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  Former JW- new here....

  by disillusioned youth in

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  hi guys and gals....... .

  i would just like to extend greetings to all those poor souls who had to endure the torturous childhood of growing up in a strict jw lifestyle as i had.

  i didn't know that there were such forums on the net, and i was made aware of this by my sister who is also a member here, i believe.. i find this kind of funny really.

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  Welcome D.Y.,

  Looking forward to reading your story.

  Dark Uncle,

  I agree that there are some organizations and groups that should be combated.The Nazi's provided a great belief system (as long as you were a "pure" German) so "live and let live"? I feel at least some obligation to help in some sort of educational work (at the minimum) particularly for other young people (lots of relatives) though I don't want to do it in a churlish manner which would reduce the impact of my arguments.

  That said, I agree (ugh!) with Eduardo in that you shouldn't feel obligated to fight with or castigate your parents at this stage in your life. Continuing displays of love and respect can do a lot more and pave the way for serious discussion in later years as well as disarm them in regards to your "worldy" behaviour. I have a similar dilemma in that regard (just leave'm alone?) to their remaining years on this planet and how much I should attack their belief system. I still not sure what I'll do eventually.

  Welcome again!

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  Slainte! God Bless the Irish One and All!!

  by ezekiel3 in

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  i wish you all a grand st. padraig?s and may you drown the shamrock tonight!

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  Let's pause and salute all the poor over worked bouncers who'll have their hands full tonight!

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  Current JW's Compared to 30...20, Even 15 yrs Ago

  by XBEHERE in

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  i have read on here over the past few years many threads pertaining to "the fall of the wt" most recently the "divided branch" one and also if jwish will become more mainstream.

  i think that jw's today are vastly different than several to a few decades ago.

  for instance, i am an active jw and i go through the motions and i can probably acurately assume that i am not alone... in fact there are many like me i am sure.

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  I'd have to agree with your observations Xbehere.

  I still remember the huge guilt trip on youth in regards to education (if I remember correctly, Franz gave such a talk at the '84 Montreal asssembly when I was a high school senior that made me feel like a complete shit!). As for double-lifers, the hardcore component of all halls(people who follow the letter of the JW law with no exceptions) must be shrinking since more people are making their own decisions on what's appropriate behaviour.

  I've no idea how the org. will "manage" the current generation (no pun intended!) which is even more independent than ours (internet, chat-lines, etc...) and better informed. Either they "ratchet down" behavioural requirements or develop a "don't ask -don't tell" policy which will prove counter productive in the long run. What's going to happen when our parents' generation passes away? These kids don't have to same "escalation of committment" to overide logic and critical thinking affecting their parents and grandparents.

  After the next decade or so, what will happen? The org. seems to be prepared to shrink in their western world "base" and focus on the Third World (see the new OM book thread).

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  am i the only one?

  by crizlee in

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  im 17, havent ever really kissed a girl before or had a real girlfriend, and i have a few close friends.

  my days consist of school, work, workout, homework, sleep, shower, repeat.

  the weekend is unpredictable, it can be super awesum or just effin depressing.

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  Hey C,

  Please just remember, we're bombarded thru our media on what you have "to have" or "have to be" to be a happy "normal" person. Don't buy in to that. Most of these happy, self-actualizing individuals have their own problems and personal issues which they don't display publicly.

  At 17, you've got a "few" miles left in you yet and you're already 4 plus years ahead of the "game" than I was. The best thing I can recommend is to talk and interact with as many people from different cultural and socio-economic backgrounds as possible during your school years. While our collective experiences growing up in the org. are unusual, we're not the only ones who've been thrown a "curveball" in life. My high school years were horrid (probably worst than yours) but I had a great university experience!

  Your life is just beginning old fella!

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  Hello everyone!

  by MissMelly in

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  hi everyone, my name is melissa.this site is the best!

  i used to be a member on this forum a couple years ago, but have since list all my past information.

  but alas, i have returned.

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  Whiskeyjack

  Welcome back!

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