Posts by Flindersgirl

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Sunday Show Channel Nine in Australia/JW Abuse Program

by Flindersgirl in

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just to let everyone know that channel nine here in australia is once again featuring jehovah's witnesses and abuse on this coming sunday's program, this being sunday the 29th of may.

should be interesting.. cheers!

Flindersgirl

Just to let everyone know that Channel Nine here in Australia is once again featuring Jehovah's Witnesses and abuse on this coming Sunday's program, this being Sunday the 29th of May. Should be interesting.

Cheers!

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The most condescending thing said to you by the (sm)elders.

by diamondblue1974 in

i wasnt the most academic of children although i had some capability but i could read quite well by the time i was 4 years old at least for my age; i have always read as a child and still read now as an adult both professionally (research) and for pleasure.

i have always been able to write too...and pretty much advanced as well as my peers did in school...perhaps i am lucky, i certainly feel like i am when illiteracy amongst adults and children is rife at present...however.. i remember when i was 16 the wts in the uk were pushing through a scheme teaching those who were not as able to read and write...and an elder in the hall made a point of coming to me and suggesting that i should actually attend the training!!

!....i explained that i could read and write well enough and didnt need to be taught basic literacy... he said that i might learn something new and should respect jehovahs order of things and show appreciation...i did decline his kind offer rather abruptly....but wtf??

Flindersgirl

I was told by an elder that it was all my fault my then husband who was not a Witness was not in the truth as I obviously had to be doing something very wrong as both a Witness and his wife or he would have "seen the light" by now!!! I just looked at him...

Only time in my entire marriage my ex ever showed any sense was by NOT becoming a Jdub

Cheers

27

TMS

by loosie in

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does anyone have some good excuses for getting out of giving talks in the theocratic ministry school?

Flindersgirl

I NEVER KNEW THIS!!! I never knew people got out of giving talks this way!!!! Sheesh was i ever a gullible gallah...

I remember once I was given a talk during a joint visit of the CoDo..(circuit overseer and district overseer I say it as its spelt ). I was flipping terrified...(funny that I can now lecture to 200 students without notes....but this is FUN). I was practically praying to be struck down by the Black Plague rather than give the damn thing but it never occured to me to try and get out of it. (like I said....DUH!) So anyway I get up on stage just shaking I was in my mid twenties and give the bloody thing only to be told by the cong.overseer after the meeting that I was too close to the mike and I sounded like Darth Vader!!! That is what he said!!! In fromt of others...(a**hole).

Anyway...this particular elder was "de-elderified" a few years later for running off with one of his BIBLE STUDIES!!!! Got her pregnant and shacked up with her...last I heard he was trying to get back into the Borg OOoo and funnily enough I ran into him in my local grocery store just after I finished my undergrad degree in Canada and he was ignoring me in the line up...it was Xmas time and I just lit into him. I had said hello you see thinking he was out of the "truth" and maybe needed to see a friendly face and he turned to me and said "I am working to be reinstated and will not speak to you" loudly in line. So I informed him and the entire Safeway what a hypocrite I thought he was and why, referencing specifically the behaviour that got him DF'd in the first place. I was pretty mad. If I remember I ended the conversation by saying that although he could fool everyone in the congregation with fake repentence he couldn't fool most people and that he an example of everything that was wrong with the faith. He was PURPLE. It was a great moment:)

Cheers

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Weird Logic

by loosie in

let's hear the weirdest comment or suppossed logical thought you've ever heard a witness say.. i'll start: out in service once a sis and her son were in the same car group as i was.

he was having a nose bleed and told his mom that the blood was running down the back of his throat.

his mother said " well don't swallow it yo uknow how jehovah feels about blood don't you!".

Flindersgirl

I posted this one in a different thread a while ago, but the weirdest logic I ever heard was the same kind of ass covering mentioned above re: the Organisation...

If your life is going well you're either being blessed for faithfulness OR if the person commenting to you thinks you are a bit of a bludger truth wise (miss meetings, don't go out in service enough) you need to look at your life to see WHY Satan isn't personally persecuting you for your faith You are being "blessed" by Beelzebub with an easy time of it because you are not a good Witness, if you were better he'd be after your a**.

Oh and I wasn't allowed to eat Hershey bars for a while, blood in Hershey's chocolate

But the kicker? Going out in service and listening to all the "Christian" brothers and sisters talk about what houses they were going to "pick" after Armageddon!!!!???!!! Cause you know...everyone is DEAD...help yourself Brother!!!! Double

Cheers!

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how can you stay?

by zaphod in

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speaking as someone who believed it all right up until about a year after i was df'd i just cannot understand the reasoning of people who don't go out on field service, don't go to meetings, don't participate or believe and still stay in the organisation.. i know that it is hard to leave, it's made to be hard, but some of the postings on this site make me think that it must be harder still living a lie and keeping up the pretense.. if you don't believe, why would you want to conform to all the petty rules and subject yourself to men that you don't believe have any authority.. i really do hope that as soon as possible you can all take a deep breath and finally be true to yourself.. zaphod

Flindersgirl

People basically have 4 ways to leave:

DFing

DAing

Fading

Dying

My sister chose dying, she got cancer and refused to treat it...she took vitamins and 3 years later it had mestatised to her brain, she had over 30 brain tumors. If she'd treated it she would have lived. She used to tell me, "I'd be happier if I wasn't a JW...but it's what God wants..." the unspoken, as I mentioned in another post, was that is that it was what our Mum wanted. She just couldn't leave, couldn't face the consequences...so when she found out she had cancer at 39 it was a way out of a life that was very unhappy where she could be seen as a "faithful to the end" sister. I miss her and think of her every single day. Do I judge her for her decision? No...I can understand it..but it makes me realise just how destructive this faith really is...when you cannot cope with living in it another day that death by cancer is preferrable. I am grateful just to be me...stroppy outspoken 5 foot nothing scrapper that I am

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Can it be true?

by WA Boy in

i had to stop crying so i could write this and if you saw me you wouldn't think i would be the type to cry!

i am a 35 year old man from western australia....i should be tough....or so they say.

i have never posted anything before so excuse my fractured writing.

Flindersgirl

MATE! Welcome from Adelaide, South Australia!!! Don't worry dahls, you are most definitely NOT the only one!! There are an awful lot of people on here in one stage of recovery or another, you'll be right....Good advice to take it slow...its alot too take in all at once...but I think you'll find it really helpful...good ta meetcha!!

Cheers!

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what did u do?

by kittyeatzjdubs in

hey guys!

i don't know if this has been discussed before.

if it has, just give me 20 lashes with a wet noodle.

Flindersgirl

Hey all...U/D I am sitting in my office at uni PISSING myself laughing at your reply....after all that you say that you are basically the same person??!!?? NOT!!!

Hmm what was the first thing I did? I'm like JeannieBeanz I also grew a brain and went to uni, but I bought a pack of smokes, had a drink, and affair rediscovered my inner slut and just generally made up for lost time. That was 10 years ago...

I continue to live an unapologetic life, smoke, have the occasional drink, get kinky in bed on a very VERY regular basis, have tatts, wear funky clothes (anything even REMOTELY JW like is banned from my closet forever more!!) and most importantly I now SAY WHAT I THINK!!! Being a JW woman/turned feminist academic tends to do that to you:)

Cheers

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Thought it was about time I spill my guts...

by Krystal in

i have already posted bits and bobs about my "story"... i like the companionship i have found here and i feel it about time i get this off my chest, so here it goes.

i am a 20 year old montrealer (it is me above!

) who was brought up a witness from the day i was born.

Flindersgirl

Krystal: Bonjour...ca va? Welcome from a former Quebecer now living in South Australia :) As we say over here "you'll be right mate" and this board will help you through it.

Cheers!

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The JWs worst aspects for you are?

by greendawn in

which jw doctrines, collective personality traits and general history do you find to be the most destructive or disagreeable?

i personally found the doctrine of the other sheep which makes the christ inaccesible to most jws, the devilishly complicated moral code, and the hideously totalitarian behaviour of their leadership to be the worst things on a long list that i've prepared regarding what's unacceptable to me in that society.

i remember when i was arguing with the elders about the fds and their claim to total spiritual supremacy and they were telling me that the idea of democracy departs completely from their way of thinking, here they have a theocracy and that even "talking about the right things at the wrong time" is basically a crime in other words sit and wait for the fds to reveal it at the so called right time, and i should accept things as they are and not as i want them to be otherwise i get thrown out.

Flindersgirl

A theocracy without the god is just plain old Fascism.

I'm not interested really in teachings. I'm more interested in their behaviors. Their beliefs never hurt anybody.

Good comment and an apt one...that's actually what interests me as well. You can believe whatever you like...but its when those beliefs leave the realm of the "private" and begin to be prescribed to a large group of disparate people regardless of the consequences that it gets messy and troublesome. Taking it back to the personal, I have always thought that if my mum wanted to be a JW that would have been fine but did she have to make her children's lives miserable as well? The imposition of the faith based behavioural systems (no holidays, no hanging out with people that aren't JW, no proms, no boyfriends the list goes on and on) makes life difficult for Witness children in that not only is life very 'grey' (nothing like hanging around waiting for everyone to DIE at Armageddon to give one a cheerful childhood) but it ostracises and marginalises young people in ways that are sometimes very difficult to get past later in life. Some never do...

Cheers

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WHO IS WORSE TO A JW, A PAEDOPHILE OR AN APOSTATE?

by diamondblue1974 in

hearing about the child molester in glasgow who has been charged but not disfellowshipped did cause me to think a little;.

as an apostate you can be shunned without the need for a jc meeting irrespective of the fact that you might be repentent (not if you have any sense though); however the child molester mentioned hasnt been disfellowshipped!!?

?...if this is true doesnt it clearly highlight the wts f**cked up sense of morals?.

Flindersgirl

Oooo sorry guys mucked up the font its huge...pardon me....