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What if JWs had never been part of your life......?

by Scully in

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prisca's topic about personal responsibility vs blaming the jws (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/56286/824979/post.ashx#824979) got me to thinking..... where do you think you'd be if the jws and the wts had never been part of your life?how would your life be different from what it is now?what do you think you might have accomplished or done differently without the encumberances of the jws in your life?what kind of relationship would you have with your family?who would you be?.

there are no right or wrong answers, but think about those what-i-want-to-be-when-i-grow-up ideas you had as children and whether those dreams could have become a reality.. .

love, scully

c5

This one is a hard one. There are so many twists and turns we have taken in our lives that we have ended up today where we are at. It is all unique! If my family had not become jw's, there could have been thousands of ways my life would be different than today.

Don't know if I would have gone to college or not, that one is a toss up since my family never had the means to help with it nor the desire to encourage it even without the jw influence.

It seems to me deep down, past jw experience or not, I still would have ended up being the same I am today. Perhaps I may not have learned some of the lessons I have, but I cannot see myself as being anything other than myself no matter what religious or non-religious background I could have had.

My basic opinion has always been that being a jw does not necesarily make one better morally etc like a lot of jw's like to believe. You know how some of them used to say "If it wasnt for the truth I'd be a drug addict or have aids......." or " I'd be dead without Jehovah's help....". I think I would have ended up with the same morals that I have today, jw past or not.

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If you had the choice...

by JH in

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if you had the choice, would you rather live up to 80 years old, of which you would be healthy 70 years and sick 10 years, or.

would you rather live up to 800 years old, of which you would be healthy 700 years and sick 100 years?.

c5

Definately live 700 years! There is so much out there that I would want to do. Haven't even touched the surface!

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The GB vs SilentLambs Marchers In September

by SYN in

later on this month there will be an amazing event happening right in front of brooklyn's bethel, the headquarters of the book publishing company formerly known as a religion, the watchtower bible & tract society.

dozens, if not hundreds, of silentlambs and other interested and angry parties will be participating in this march.

the official spin on the issue straight from the top) :victims and their parents are free to go to the police.victims and their parents will not be sanctioned for going to the police.reports of molestions will be reported in states where it is required!there are fewer molestation cases on record than bill bowen and barb anderson claim.the "child protection policy" of the watchtower is "bible based (tm)", i.e.

c5

I believe the WT will look at this protest as another proof that they are being persecuted. They will believe it is trouble initiated by apostates, pawns of Satan the Devil.

They will never admit to making a mistake in this pedophile issue. To do so could cast doubt on them as being God's Organization. They could never afford to do that. They never admit to when they were wrong in the past, and probably never will. Makes me sick.

They probably will issue the same stupid statements they have been saying since this whole scandal came up. They will take the role as the innocent God-Fearing group recieving trouble from disgruntled former members. They will also probably take this oppourtunity to reaffirm their faith, as they believe this will be fullfilling bible prophecy.

The bright side of this is that this protest will do wonders to help educate those who know little about JW's. It will help inform people that JW's are not all the happy people who want to help. People need to know the whole truth about JW's.

I have so much respect for Bill Bowen and company, and all who are going to participate in this and other similar goings-on. These efforts will not be in vain.

Cari

Edited by - c5 on 9 September 2002 10:35:33

Edited by - c5 on 9 September 2002 10:37:13

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #19

by ozziepost in

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to mark this weekend's district convention in sydney, australia, we are asked to cast our minds back in time and remember those district convention days with a certain nostalgia.

so, are you ready to begin that walk down memory lane?

settle back with a cuppa with me and reflect awhile.

c5

I guess Mulan and I were one of the few who truly tried to get something out of the conventions! I still have many of my notes and some of them are word for word from the talks.

Sure, a few times, especially in the later afternoon, the talks would get long. During those times, I would briefly observe the styles of clothes other sisters were wearing to see if I was in JW style. I usually ended up feeling sad because I could not afford a new dress for every day of the assembly like many of the other sisters could. Or I would try to find everyone in my congregation in the audience if they were not seated in the "assigned" section they encouraged us to sit in.

Edited by - c5 on 8 September 2002 15:49:57

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DO YOU LIKE J W D BETTER THAN BEFORE?

by minimus in

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over the last few months, changes have occured on this board.

many that complained have either left or post limitedly.

constant swearing is no longer accepted.

c5

I liked the board before, but I like it even better now.

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Witnessing to witnesses tips

by SpannerintheWorks in

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i've just registered on this site.

i'd like to kick off by asking this wealth of experience what your most successful witnessing to witnesses tips are.

so if you're a non-and-has-never-been-a-jw, what stops them in their tracks?

c5

Hello!

One of the best articles I have ever read about talking (or trying to talk) with JW's was written by Timothy Campbell of Beyond JW's. I tried to look up the particular article, but it must be in the process of being revised because I could not locate it. I found a related one here by the same author.

http://members.aol.com/beyondjw/wvxw.htm"

I highly recommend reading it.

Basically, the article I wanted to share was about how it is probably not going to do much good to try to witness to JW's. They are pre-programmed so much that it is very hard. Not impossible, but extremely hard. Most JW's that leave already have doubts, and it is usually some circumstance that befalls them that triggers the leaving process. Once I locate the article, I will definatly share it.

I hope this helps,

Cari

Edited by - c5 on 7 September 2002 12:47:14

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What org rules were stupid to you?

by MARTINLEYSHON in

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when i was in the truth i thought that the most ludicrous and petty ruling they ever introduced and still practiced is that congregation book study conductors were and are responsible for collecting every group members report.

surely every member ought to be responsible for his/her own actions.

at the beginning of the following month and certainly before the 5th i would always receive the stupid telephone call from the secretary are you aware that 3 publishers havent reported?

c5

Counting and reporting your field service time was a totally stupid rule. No where did I ever find a scripture that justified it. Isn't your time devoted to serving God supposed to be personal? Doesn't the WT get that?

Going door to door was also stupid. Very few people converted to the JW's from straight door to door work. It seems to me the JW's like to use old pre-1900 ways of doing things. Door to door is from an era of a long time ago. Few people today trust or appreciate those that go door to door. Face it, in todays world, our home is our castle. One reason we have a home is to be at peace, and to be away from the hustle and bustle of today. The last thing most people want is someone coming un-invited to your door. I was told that time after time after time when I pioneered. I gave the cover statement "that a lot of people appreciate our calls" to save face, knowing full well that most people DID NOT appreciate our calls.

I also thought the rule of not wearing skirts that were any length above the knee was dumb. This may have been a regional rule, I do not know for sure if all of Watchtowerdom practiced this one. Hey, I understand modesty, but short skirts/dresses are not going to make the world come to an end.

I agree that the no facial hair on men rule is stupid as well. Does not the Bible they believe in tell them that Jesus, the apostles, and pretty much every man in the Bible had facial hair? Facial hair is a natural thing. I am surprised they dont have restrictions on if you can or cannot shave your hair on other regions of the body. Imagine inforcing that! It is just stupid. Many business professionals have facial hair. They keep it neat so it does not look bad.

I think the rule about not standing up when the flag comes by at a parade or event is dumb. I honestly don't understand the harm in showing respect. Standing up is not showing worship, it is just showing good respect.

Cari

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Six degrees of bad association...

by Valis in

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i had the pleasure of adding jesika to my list last night and after the haze of the sake bombs parted, i had good thoughts of all the apostates/people from this board i have met.

if i left some of you off, feel free to rebuke me at any time and please remind me if we have met and i just couldn't remember.....i'm wondering if we have six degrees of bad association...if any of you lovely folks have met any of the folks on my list then lets play a game and see how many names we can come up with and add your own list too.

megadude, elsewhere, gopher, lauralisa/evan , comf, billygoat, mozzerforlife, xena, tyydyy, sixofnine, gilwarrior, roo, rekless, desertflower, peaceloveharmony, joannadandy, eyegirl, scoortergirl, dirtyoldbiker, staceman & diane?, cara from minn, not interested, dave from minn, jim & sue from minn...and i hope many more very soon!.

c5

Valis,

Just wanted to say that it was a pleasure to meet you and everyone else who attended the MN apostofest. You were a lot of fun!

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What's your dirtiest habit??

by Beck_Melbourne in

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i don't have any but i am going to tell on my lady boss, who is a 26 yr old lawyer of the hoity toity breed who was incidently born with golden slippers.

this morning as i walked into the ladies room we passed each other as she was on her way out.

we smiled and said hi, then next thing i see her pass her hand under a drip from the tap...and then hastily wipe her hand on the towel before rushing out.

c5

I always hated my mom's habit of licking her hand and then wiping our face with it. Any one else have a mom that did that?

Speaking of bad habits. I deal cards in a casino. I ALWAYS wash my hands when I go on break after handling the chips. We had one customer one time (maybe more than once, who knows!) take his chips to the bathroom with him. A fellow dealer observed him urinating in the urinal. He was still trying to hold onto his chips, but they all fell right into the urinal while he was still going. He did not wash his hands or the soiled chips! Yuck!

Hmmm, bad habits that I have. Here is a gross one when I was young. I used to like to eat the butter-flavored crisco out of the can. I get disgusted remembering it now. I did it because I liked how it felt in my mouth. Grossssss! Some things should not be remembered!

Cari

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Ruth Moshonas' Watchtower

by Stephanus in

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as mentioned in this thread: .

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=35499&site=3.

i got hold of a 1st february, 1989 watchtower belonging to a ruth moschonas.

c5

It is possible that Ruth has gotton married since then, thus she has had a name change so that is why it is hard to find information on her.

1989.....wow...I was in 9th grade back then. How time flies!