DESIROUS OF CHANGE:
That is mostly why I read ex-JW forums: the newbies.
There are so many newbies with interesting experiences. Even though we have heard The Truth About The Truth many times before, somebody is hearing it for the first time.
the reason that i ask is, in the two years on this forum and you tube, i've seen ex-jw's either drop off entirely or make fewer and fewer videos.
i know the emotional toll can be high.
is that the sole reason, or is it cost (video) or do you think it's external pressure (legal or family)?
DESIROUS OF CHANGE:
That is mostly why I read ex-JW forums: the newbies.
There are so many newbies with interesting experiences. Even though we have heard The Truth About The Truth many times before, somebody is hearing it for the first time.
my wife is getting regular emails from the cobe ... you know we have the truth, the world is in the dark, we're special, hang in there, read this encouraging watchtower ... blah blah blah ... just wondering if these are coordinated from org.. recent mass email example .... " .... an excellent watchtower article in the july 2020. it is entitled “be convinced that you have the truth”.
the scripture is from 2 tim 3:14. we are to continue in the things we have learned and be persuaded to believe.
reflect for a moment what appealed to you about the truth which drew you to jehovah.
WAKANDA:
Yes. These Users are only concerned if people who are a material asset leave. Then they will make an effort to find them.
As you have mentioned: people who do services for Free for certain JWs (fixing cars, doing taxes, cutting hair, etc.). Also, people who entertain and open up their homes, serve meals are an asset they hate to lose. Let’s not forget big contributors.
Anybody else can get lost. If you’re a woman they don’t care since there are too many. If you didn’t do favors for these Users, they are especially not interested.
1. and this is most important, everyone listen up: dress up like you normally would for meeting!
-oh, gawd.. 2. if you use a zoom background, make sure it is not distracting, or something crass like prison.
stick with something dignified and subtle.
BLUES BROTHER:
From what I have read on some posts, both on this forum and on Reddit, the brothers are upset at people who won’t let themselves be seen on Zoom.
They try to ‘encourage’ people to let themselves be seen..In my opinion, I think they are afraid that more people will turn their cameras off and they will have very few visible and answering.
If they keep up petty criticisms and remarks about people’s home decor or clothing, they are only going to make even more people switch off...As it is, they’re pushing it already with people having to be dressed up just to be home - and being self-conscious because of being even more on display than if they were in the actual hall. You don’t know who’s checking you out or fixating on your expression or whatever... In the hall, you saw the back of people’s heads and could daydream.
Nah, I would never go for this.
firstly for anyone leaving is don’t get involved in alcohol, drugs, parties, and sleeping around, because it will just come back and bite you in the arse.. i have a theory that those who leave the religion at an older age do better than those who leave at a younger age.
i think to that the reasons for leaving are quite different between the age groups.
i sometimes wonder if many of the under 30’s use the short comings of the religion, as an excuse to pursue the above mentioned life style.
JOE134CD:
You are probably right that the outcome is usually better when an older person leaves the JW religion. They have the wisdom of having lived longer and are probably past the point in life of doing stupid things. Although there are probably exceptions to the rule for both.
I was in my 40s when I left the JW religion but I also was not raised in it. I also came in a member of the workforce so I wasn’t ‘afraid of the world’ like a lot of Witnesses are. My main reason for deciding to leave was the 1995 Generation teaching. But, I had other reasons - both secular and intellectual as you say.
I also never succumbed to vices when I left partly because I dabbled a bit before I joined the religion and was not attracted to it. I like a healthy lifestyle and do things in moderation.
1. and this is most important, everyone listen up: dress up like you normally would for meeting!
-oh, gawd.. 2. if you use a zoom background, make sure it is not distracting, or something crass like prison.
stick with something dignified and subtle.
WAKANDA:
I predicted when this Zoom thing got started that some JW is going to get criticized because something in their home is perceived to be offensive to some busybody who can see into their home!
Sure enough! There is a thread on Reddit by somebody who was criticized by a brother who could see a picture of a sports figure hanging on their wall and is offended by it!!! MEANWHILE THIS IS THEIR HOUSE.
I hate being right all the time but this Zoom is in some ways worse than being at the hall. At least when somebody is at the hall, their home is still private. Not so with Zoom.
Not only are you expected to be dressed up to sit in your OWN living room, but you will be the recipient of unwanted commentary by an idiot brother who imagines that what is in YOUR home is his business!
i'm not totally new here, as i'm reading since some time...then i tried to sign up but had some technical issue with the email,eventually recovered..... i'm from north italy, for your info from the region where the covid is worse.
i'm male, generation millennial(...unfortunately not the overlapped generation :))) ) ..sorry to don't go in so much details, but i'm pimo ;).
hope i can contribute to this community and help as much i got from you guys.... have nice weekend!.
ITALIANCALIPSO:
Welcome to the forum. I am also Italian descent and have been to Italy three times over the years.
I am sorry for what happened there with Covid. I hope the tourist industry and the economy can recover to some degree soon.
i think it’s time for business to reopen and let’s get the economy going again!
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what say you??
MEAN MR MUSTARD:
That is true but most people aren’t aware and are unconcerned...unless they own a business.
What I dread is the Aftermath when this crisis dies down and prices of things go up (car ins., etc.?).
What happens when a great many people don’t get their jobs back?
i’ve been thinking about it for a few weeks and i’m sort of surprised that no one else has introduced this topic!.
what better time than now for a fader to fade?
no meetings, no field service, no elder visits, no assemblies, no convention, and no other bullshit busy work going on.
BLUES BROTHERS & JWTOM:
I am glad more Witnesses using Zoom never turned the camera on in the first place OR are turning off their cameras!
I figured this would lose its charm after a while when people woke up and said WTF! and decided they aren’t going to get all dressed up just to be in their own living room on display having strangers seeing into their home!
Let the Witness religion ramp up its criticism of these people and see how THAT work$ out for them.
why are taxi firms still operating during a "deadly pandemic?".
i was shopping yesterday and saw taxi after taxi picking people & their shopping up at the supermarket.
none of the drivers or any of the passengers wore masks or gloves, nor did they keep any distance from each other - in or out of the car.. the drivers all helped to load the bags into the boots/trunks of their cars.taxi-drivers must be seriously at risk of catching/spreading covid 19...
BOOGERMAN:
Unfortunately, people still have to get around. Some will require the services of a taxi driver.
However, a taxi driver is in danger just like other essential people like health care workers and people working in supermarkets. So, a taxi driver should be wearing a mask at least.
nice to be here.
still a pimo and struggling through my fade.
i still have several jw friends on social media.
DAVROS:
Welcome to the forum!
I always felt there was nothing worse than an uneducated JW who doesn’t even understand politics, to be making remarks about anybody. I even sent a message to a JW I knew on social media telling this person just that...Maybe these people should send back their Stimulus check..I won’t even get into JWs and illegal immigration.
Witnesses are against everything, don’t support anything - but yet they have their hands out looking for what they can get from the government.