Posts by LongHairGal

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In love with disfellowshipped JW

by Amberlou in

i started dating a coworker who is a divorced jw.

found out he was disfellowshipped, and he was trying to figure out how to make things work.

i am not a jw, and his family is not supportive of the relationship.

LongHairGal

AMBERLOU:

It may hurt and be the hardest thing you do but stop seeing this person...Everything everybody has told you is true.

Somebody brought up in the Jehovah’s Witness religion knows nothing else. They are not like normal people who have dealings with everybody, the community, etc. If he wants a relationship with his family - which is normal - they will emotionally blackmail him into coming back to the religion/cult..You don’t understand the emotional entanglement.. He may not inherit money unless he goes back.

Where does this leave you? Not in a good place I assure you.

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UK: Time to punish the Covid 19 PROFITEERS!

by BoogerMan in

laws have been very quickly created in order to oppress & suppress uk citizens' basic freedoms and rights, while profiteering - thanks to the mantra of "supply & demand" - is allowed to flourish with nothing being done by the government to penalise companies who are more than likely reducing production of ppe in order to inflate their prices.

(oil companies have done likewise for years) .

"apart from actually finding the equipment, there are other problems.

LongHairGal

QUETZAL:

Wow, another bumper crop of bethelites to be dumped!

This is really the worst possible time for this to happen to anybody.. At least those let go a decade or so ago had actual congregations and halls to go back TO..maybe a job?..Any bethelite looking on back then had to know this could happen to them..Now, the economy is totally shit with this Covid thing.

The Witnesses that are actually left in the congregations have been hit up for money left and right and I’m not sure they have another cent to be squeezed out of them. I’m sure there will be frantic appeals for anybody to open up their homes to a bethelite!..Imagine the nerve?

All this is the worst possible scenario and I am very glad I got out of Jehovah’s Witnesses years ago.

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Why couldn't I stop laughing?

by Vanderhoven7 in

help me understand why i could not stop laughing watching this apparently serious video?.

https://youtu.be/xluj6cpznw4.

LongHairGal

VANDERHOVEN:

It was very good and he’s honest. It seems he left over principles and not because he was the victim of any serious injustice (or at least I didn’t get that impression).

I too felt the Witness religion was all-consuming. I confess that I never did ALL the reading. I worked full time and just didn’t have time to do it all and I felt all these assignments were from people not in reality that other people had to work for a living!

He is also spot on about the control, brainwashing, hypocrisy and also fake friends as phony as fake nails. I found it interesting how they tried to get him to change his mind when he submitted his Disassociation letter. (They don’t want to lose a man if they can help it.).. But, I’m happy for him he is out - and, as he says: “he got his life back”. I remember the feeling!

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Lingering doubts and internal debates

by Huxley1979 in

jw
friends

hello, i am in the beginning stages of a slow fade.

over the years i have become more and more dissatisfied with the beliefs, teachings, and organizational practices of the organization.

i no longer have faith in it.

LongHairGal

HUXLEY1979:

I am a twenty-year ‘Fader’.

When 9/11 happened, many inactive Witnesses went running back to the meetings. Not me though. I was in the early stages of ‘fading’ and just starting to feel somewhat normal like I felt before I made the mistake of getting involved with the JW religion. No way was I going back to that mental abuse.

Here we are now twenty years later in a world filled with different crises. I don’t feel compelled in the slightest to be around the Witnesses. You’re going to have to do a lot of research and learning about this religion so that you are not gripped with fear.

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Tips for a Slow Fade

by Huxley1979 in

jw
friends

i'm a born and raised witness.

i was an elder for almost 20 years.

almost the same in fulltime service.

LongHairGal

HUXLEY1979:

Welcome to the forum. There is a lot of good advice and you can pick and choose what works for you.

Every ‘Fader’s’ circumstances are different. The difficulties for each person depend on how entangled in the Witness religion they are AND if they have family in the religion.

Somebody such as myself who had no family there, no business entanglements and who was a working woman on the fringes of the congregation - had an easier Fade than somebody with family there, etc.

The end result after so many years is that I am ‘shunned’ (no loss to me). This is the same result other Faders will get. The difference is that I had No confrontation or drama - which is how I wanted it.

One thing I will say: it is important for you to carefully make some contacts/friends outside the religion beforehand, through job or whatever.

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Thunderous Applause Around The Stadium

by Number 6 in

growing up in the 70's and 80's in the jw religion who remembers the massive stadium gigs the watchtower used to hold?.

we used to denounce false religion in the starkest of terms.

we were right and by god we were letting anyone who listened know it.

LongHairGal

SEA BREEZE:

I agree with everybody’s comments but you are correct that the WT is utter ‘mind rape’. Very apt description.

I wasn’t born-in so I guess certain teachings weren’t so deeply rooted as others. I was able to shed the ‘paradise earth’ hope from my mind with not much trouble. Maybe I never entirely swallowed the whole thing. But getting rid of this carrot & stick belief was necessary when I started my ‘Fade’... I felt it was a cruel trick on my brain.

My general experience in the JW religion still did a number on my head that had lingering effects for years. Being treated like a typhoid Mary as a working single woman was appalling and what the hell did I need with that? I was probably held out as ‘you don’t want to be like her’!

But, I’m SO grateful that I stuck to my guns because I would not be Retired today if I had really listened to these Users.

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J. W's Are Afraid of Old Literature

by IWant2Leave in

i'm reading babylon the great has fallen, god's kingdom rules, published 1963. this was studied years ago when i was about 10-12 years old.

i wanted to just read some of the beliefs from decades ago.

my wife wants to know why i'm reading this book.

LongHairGal

1234 & TRUTHBKNOWN:

Yes.

And how can anybody possibly believe the JW religion is ‘truth’ when somebody can be criticized or disfellowshipped for reading this religion’s old literature?

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Gorby's question about current US situation

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

from the peacefull netherlands i have a question about the current situation in the us.. is a civil war possible?.

g..

LongHairGal

SIMON:

I have to agree with you that IS what they are trying to do in this chaos and rioting: attempting to spread blame to people who are Not involved and to diminish responsibility to those who should bear SOLE accountability for what is happening.

All the destruction of property, businesses (even black owned) is totally senseless and the same pattern of what happens time and again in the country! I’m sure many businesses destroyed might not open again in those areas!!

In my region, Target and Walmart stores are closed and boarded up because they fear the possibility of looting and destruction, etc. This is particularly bad because these essential stores are the few stores open in this pandemic.

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2020 Convention streamed

by Rattigan350 in

2020 convention of jehovah’s witnesses.

we warmly invite you to watch this year’s three-day convention presented by jehovah’s witnesses.

as a result of the novel coronavirus (covid-19) pandemic, this year’s convention program is being presented online at jw.org.

LongHairGal

RATTIGAN350:

..All while sitting in your own home dressed up...you will still be exhausted like you were sitting in a stadium but you just haven’t traveled anywhere.

PHIZZY:

I think they are itching to sell off more kingdom hall$... So, some people may want this set-up to continue.

PETE ZAHUT:

Seeing friends and meeting people was the ONLY good thing about the ASSemblies. Oh, and the occasional release of a publication back in the day. Can’t believe we used to get all excited over this.

Those days are over.

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Resurrection, Reconstruction? What is it? It never made sense to me. Your opinion.

by Wasanelder Once in

i never had much faith in whatever resurrection was.

what appealed to me about jw doctrines was the rejection of the "it's a mystery" defense of the indefensible.

when i would ask how going into non existence could be reversed when all the atomic parts of who we are had been scattered for thousands of years, the answer was "jehovah can do anything".

LongHairGal

WASANELDERONCE:

I never quite accepted the JW religion’s paradise earth and resurrection teaching.

I didn’t really think much about it. But, when I ‘faded’ from the religion I made sure I purged this from my mind and made peace with the idea of death.

In order for the resurrection to be literally true, the creator would have to store BILLIONS of people’s thoughts and memories. (They also couldn’t possibly be conscious because then they would remember this - unless their consciousness is put into a hibernation state.). Then at some later date, a body of some sort that apparently would resemble the person..would have these memories put into it. Sounds so science fiction but who am I to say that some creator could not do this..But, WOULD they?

There is also the scripture “the dead are conscious of nothing at all, etc..” According to this scripture it all dissipates. Then how is it in Jehovah’s memory? To me this scripture contradicts any idea of resurrection because it HAS to be that person so it would have to be preserved somehow.

There are some people who want to cling to this resurrection teaching and who am I to stop them?