MINIMUS:
The reason that I would be against this barbarity is because it would render a person helpless who cannot work. You would have yet more people around begging!
I would make a thief do community service to make up something to society.
LongHairGal
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Steal in Iran and Get Your Fingers Chopped Off!
by minimus inthree teens were convicted of stealing and the punishment is cut off their fingers.
some past punishments were finger and foot removal.
pretty barbaric but i bet they don’t have too many looters there..
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Do Jehovah’s Witnesses “Witness” Any More?
by minimus ini see no more preaching.
no more door knocking.
no more car groups.
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LongHairGal
HOWTHEBIBLEWASCREATED:
I agree with your description of what the JW religion is headed for and turning into right now as we speak: ..an online religion with maybe some assemblies a couple of times a year. Whether these will be at a rented facility or something they own who knows?
Maybe some still-ins are aware of this but I wonder if some are thinking things are going back to the good old-fashioned days?.. I tend to doubt it.
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The Spiritual Food Box!
by Atlantis inthe spiritual food box.. .
https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/how-your-donations-are-used/a-small-box-that-delivers-spiritual-food/.
petra!.
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DREARYWEATHER:
They may have been given ‘free’ to the congregations - but I read somewhere it was suggested that if people’s food bills were lower because of this ‘gift’..they should donate that difference to the religion.
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Upcoming Neutrality Talk Oct 26, 2020
by Listener inthanks petra and atlantis for providing the latest announcements from the watchtower.. they are telling congregations to replace the 15 minute local needs talk in the midweek meeting of october 26th with a talk on neutrality.
i am not sure if this is due to there being a usa election on tues 3rd, november or because of their worldwide preaching campaign targeting government officials.
it does sound like it is due to the usa election due to comments about propaganda and political promises.
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SEA BREEZE:
I agree with you about them not quoting scriptures that will shoot down Pharaisaical rules.
A particular one I never heard quoted was in Thessalonians:..”He that does not work shall not eat.” The religion must not like that scripture because it goes against their knocking secular jobs and pushing pioneering even when people can’t afford it!
I should have quoted this scripture to meddling JWs years back who wanted me to quit my full time job!..But, they would have hated me all the more if I did!
NEAT BLUE DOG:
Yes, I believe that scripture Smiddy is referring to says exactly that...And I totally reject anybody who sets themselves up as an authority and thinks THEY have the right to tell everybody else they are more qualified to say what a scripture means.
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Upcoming Neutrality Talk Oct 26, 2020
by Listener inthanks petra and atlantis for providing the latest announcements from the watchtower.. they are telling congregations to replace the 15 minute local needs talk in the midweek meeting of october 26th with a talk on neutrality.
i am not sure if this is due to there being a usa election on tues 3rd, november or because of their worldwide preaching campaign targeting government officials.
it does sound like it is due to the usa election due to comments about propaganda and political promises.
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SMIDDY3:
Yes, that’s right.
We ALL are supposed to be in subjection to the ‘superior authorities’ according to the scriptures. That would include the religion as well..right? That’s how I interpret the scripture.
Also, all this BS about Witnesses being politically neutral and ‘no part of the world’ is false. They are very much part of the world with their hands out looking for what they can get. Also, many JWs have definite opinions about political things - even if they are painfully ignorant in general.
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UGHHHHH Wife wants to pioneer. Our future together doesn’t look promising
by goingthruthemotions inughhhhh wife wants to pioneer.
our future together doesn't look promising .
i told her she doesn’t know what she is getting into.
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SMIDDY3:
Not to detract from the O.P., but they apparently have a more sensible attitude towards jobs/careers in Australia it seems..Unless, of course, the attitude was different towards women - and they’re treated like I was..which is to say like an outcast.
Luckily and perhaps because I was NOT raised a JW, I ignored the Witnesses’ attitudes and stayed in the workforce until retirement.
In the U.S. where I’m from.. JWs are expected to NOT concern themselves about jobs, money or anything apparently. They are encouraged to turn down jobs (even if unemployed) if it means they will miss any meetings. There is a recent thread about a talk given at a convention saying something along these lines.
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UGHHHHH Wife wants to pioneer. Our future together doesn’t look promising
by goingthruthemotions inughhhhh wife wants to pioneer.
our future together doesn't look promising .
i told her she doesn’t know what she is getting into.
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IOWNMYLIFE:
Even though I was never a pioneer and had no interest in any titles,..your description of being put down and constantly scrutinized was something I remember experiencing - even if it was on a lesser scale.
Believe me, what you described was not something I had any intention of getting used to. It made me furious that, in effect, I was going to be poked and prodded by these older people..Unacceptable and I wasn’t having it. Now, was this because I was not raised a JW and had different upbringing/schooling?? Possibly.
When all the critics, oddballs and spiritual giants realized they weren’t going to get anywhere with me..that I wasn’t going to quit my full time job and pioneer..they just shunned me and made sure I wasn’t invited anywhere.
My condolences to the O.P.
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"I still miss it Dad" My 41 Year Son Admitted
by 1234 inon the 18th of september i turned in my disassociation letter in to the tigard congregation, 19 years ago.. my son turned in his letter in november 2001, 19 years ago shortly after me.
he was 21 years old.. two days ago we were working together on a wrap for his a/c unit on his bus.. out of blue, he says "i still miss it dad.
not the religion.
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MAGNUM:
I understand what you mean because I remember that hopeful vibe from the ‘70s and ‘80s you mention.
I confess that a while back I was looking at JW FB Friends lists and longing for the friendships I never had in the Witness religion. It was hopeless and out of my reach. I believe it was because I wasn’t born-in and there was a bias against people who weren’t born-in (which is particularly stupid for a religion looking for converts).. ALSO, it was because of my full-time job... So, I was relegated to the ‘fringes’. A few people were nice - mostly elderly.
When I looked back I realized it must have been obvious to these elderly that I was left out.. Even though it was sad these younger people weren’t my friends (and avoided me because they were encouraged to) 🙄 how would their ‘friendship’ have helped me NOW if I hadn’t had my job back then for Retirement planning?? These people wouldn’t be supporting me.
I can understand if you would not want to see certain people again - especially if you were treated badly or talked about. The JW religion causes people to treat others badly and this can never be forgiven, in my opinion.
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JW Broadcasting: The new TV hucksters
by RULES & REGULATIONS inw88 4/1 pp.
15-20. christendom exposed as the promoter of false worship.
7 now, in the age of television, we have tv preachers exploiting that medium with every kind of theatrical trick and psychological device to beguile the masses and empty the pockets of the flock.
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DATA-DOG:
The problem is that so many have lost precious Time in the JW religion..and along with that lost time are lost opportunities for education and careers.. I understand your resentfulness about lost money.
I really do think most of ‘service’ and the ‘ministry’ was a tremendous waste of time. Maybe here and there a nice conversation and admiring people’s lawns and gardens was the only thing I got out of it.
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How do you switch off the thoughts of being raised JW and feelings of anger
by Zeds Dead inraised as a jo blow and married into it.
37 years in it and now last 7 years out of it which feels great.. have memories of being a kid in school in the uk and just hating everything about being the jw kid.
bullied, embarrassed in front of others and self-esteem went into the toilet.wished i was born into a different family.. what angers me is the messaging i would receive at home when i talked about being bullied.
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1234 (K. Casarona):
That is wise advice, even for people like me who were not raised in the religion.
I was raised Catholic and grateful for family and good memories.. But, I still have angry moments when reminded of the bad future that COULD have been if I didn’t remember my father’s wise worldly advice - and instead caved in to JW peer pressure against careers!
Everybody, make peace with your JW experience and then move on with your life as best you can..Try to be happy..No sense letting them steal the rest of our lives as well.