LongHairGal

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  'Theocratic Careers' and the Covid Pandemic

  by eyeslice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower has always banged on about not pursuing worldly careers and that best career was 'theocratic service.

  but now i am wondering what line they will take.

  let's have look at the options;.

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  PISTOLPETE:

  You got that right. Let them get a JOB...I partly blame them for the negative way I was viewed in the congregation as somebody who worked full time.

  They harped on the fact that everybody should be a pioneer and direct remarks about not pursuing ‘materialism’ (which is Code for don’t get a decent job/career). Because of the way they felt about people like me.. I would Never have helped out when volunteers were asked to ‘feed the CO’. Yeah?.. They could go eat at a fast food place and order that No. 9 with Fries for all I cared!
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  Covid Virus and serving where the need is greater

  by eyeslice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get the impression that many of those serving where 'the need is greater' have had to return to their home countries due to the current covid pandemic.. just over a year back the society was pushing people to go to places like india; not the easiest places to get to grips with at the best of times.

  now i see that the covid pandemic is pretty much out of control in india.

  it seems to me that 'needs greaters' were the watchtowers way of getting missionaries on the cheap.

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  BIAHI:

  Yes, I think in some cases younger people looking for adventure go to where ‘the need is greater’.

  In other cases it is older people going to more attractive places - maybe not necessarily where the need is greater. Maybe these Witnesses are fed up with the daily grind back in the states. The ‘new system’ is delaying so they want to experience ‘paradise-like’ conditions now. What also needs to be taken into account is political instability around the world and how sometimes desirable places turn into something not-so-nice and the JWs need to move elsewhere!

  Also, the problem is that some JWs weren’t exactly retirement age and not yet eligible for SS (even if they paid enough into it) when they went overseas! Maybe they had a stash of money and wanted to try it and hoped maybe the ‘new system’ would be here before the money started to dry up. So, now they are over sixty and have to deal with this!
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  The difference in JWs in the cult

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been in several congregations over the years.

  the hypocrisy was staggering.

  so many of these idiots were fake jws.some were strict followers and were as annoying as could be.

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  FFGHOST:

  Yes, hypocrisy does abound in the religion. And, I agree that it is certainly higher than in the general population.

  When I came into the religion as a young working adult I was criticized like crazy by older people in the congregation. I was shunned and hardly invited anywhere. Meanwhile, practically ALL these older people were once in the workforce and were either collecting their pensions or close to it. But, yet poverty and pioneering was preached to me and other young people there...Thankfully, I resisted their criticism and worked until I Retired.

  It bothers me that there is No mention of this and certainly nobody seems to feel any accountability over this situation and mentality..It seems to be ignored like the 1975 fiasco.

  Just about all of these Hypocritical older people have passed away after living comfortable lives.. However, any of the young Baby Boomer types who listened to bad advice and pursued poverty in the 1970s/1980s instead of getting a decent job or career are in a bad predicament today!
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  The Anointed Apostate: the Remarkable Sister Pettifog

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  (on the anniversary of my jw best friend's death, i've reached into my archive to replay this incident in his honor)

  the remarkable sister *pettifog*.

  this morning i arrived on my bicycle at the local starbucks early and took up a seat at the outdoor table in the fresh air.. that’s when it happened--a group of 3 older ladies at one of the other tables outside rose to leave and one of them walked over to my table and spoke directly to me.

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  HOSER:

  I wasn’t in the religion yet in 1975, so I missed this fiasco.

  It was my observation that some JWs were very adept Users.. If they didn’t come into the religion that way, they sure learned how!

  After being panned and viewed negatively because I worked full time, I refused to give anything to these people who never really worked much and voluntarily lived on the edge. Armageddon was coming to save them, you know..so they preferred to be knocking on doors, going on coffee breaks and attending special gatherings I was never invited to...Well, I hope they planned for their Retirement! If not. Oh well.
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  What do you think will be different in the Organization after the pandemic is over?

  by ExCircuitOverseer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whether they go back to door-to-door or not, what will be different?

  do you think there will be a noticeable drop-off in attendance as we have read on here that many have left or faded?

  will there be a mass selling of halls?

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  MIKE FLOOD & VIDIOT:

  I also said the same thing last year when they were selling off halls:..they will need to end up having a few meetings a year in some large assembly hall or arena.

  I don’t see how they can maintain the control they wish if they do not meet face to face at some point..So, therefore, they MUST have in-person meetings periodically.

  I think it’s absurd and comical to imagine somebody can exercise control huffing and puffing over zoom meetings. This is not going to cut it, as far as I am concerned.

  It’s interesting to sit back and watch as observers what is happening in the religion - and SO happy we are not there!
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  The Craziness of JW's.

  by Overrated in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my dad and i would work on different "pioneers" vehicles in our kingdumb hell.

  and to nuts and bolts they where real "hoopties" anytime ready for the crusher.

  both my dad and i would work with our skills to keep their cars running since they don't have a real job to get a real working car.

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  OVERRATED:

  I had heard of some younger pioneer couples from back in the day who at some point got out of the cleaning business and into something more lucrative and less physically demanding. I also heard of other couples who had one or both who ended up getting a job in an office because they needed medical coverage.

  I would imagine that these people were able to retire at least!

  However, other pioneers from back then who lived on the edge, preferred to be in full time ministry and did NOT prepare for their Retirement are probably in a bad situation today. They should be begging brothers with businesses for jobs (along with the fired bethelites)...If I KNEW of a job I would tell them..But, a courtesy like this would be the extent of my help.

  I would imagine that JWs who made unforgivable remarks about people in congregations who worked a secular job full time like I did..have eaten their words since they have seen just what it takes to live in the Real world.
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  The Craziness of JW's.

  by Overrated in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my dad and i would work on different "pioneers" vehicles in our kingdumb hell.

  and to nuts and bolts they where real "hoopties" anytime ready for the crusher.

  both my dad and i would work with our skills to keep their cars running since they don't have a real job to get a real working car.

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  MYNAMEISLAME and OVERRATED:

  I would never presume to tell somebody else what they should do.

  However, as somebody who was criticized, shunned and not invited to special gatherings because I worked full time, I would never give anything to these JWs. Just think: I wouldn’t be Retired if I listened to these people who said I was not ‘spiritual’ and should be in full time service as a ‘pioneer’. Would these people be supporting me today? Nah, I don’t think so.

  I remember it well about JWs who never wanted to work but expected things for free or at a discount back in the day...Well, if they are in a predicament TODAY, let them track down their so-called spiritual friends for charity and handouts!
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  Suicide rates jump 50% amongst young people number one cause.

  by Yomama in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  social isolation.

  unloving shunning..

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  YOMAMA:

  I know of more than one suicide among JWs. The most recent one I heard of was not because of shunning since the person was in ‘good standing’. Also, this was not exactly a young person either.

  While nobody can know exactly what went through this person’s mind - I wonder if it had something to do with the beliefs and the end of the world talk.

  I agree with what many feel that the unloving practice of shunning can contribute to this. I experienced shunning to some degree by JWs since I was in the workforce full time but this had no effect on my self esteem as it might on a born-in person..I cannot imagine my formative years filled with the dreadful talk of destruction and Armageddon.

  How healthy could this possibly be?
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  Just invited to a zoom memorial.

  by Overrated in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  walked away from the trooth years ago(over 20) my older sister sends me an invite to the memorial via zoom.

  i have no interest in jwism at all.

  should i ignore or respond?.

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  OVERRATED:

  I was invited to tap into the memorial on Zoom by distant JW friends. I politely declined with the excuse of not having enough service, etc. with my cellphone plan.
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  Do You Think “Normal” Is Ever Going To Happen Again?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since covid, our lives have all been affected.

  do you think people will ever get back to normal, pre-covid?

  are masks, vaccinations and social distancing the “new normal “?.

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  LongHairGal

  MINIMUS:

  I don’t like the public service announcement/pep talks I’m hearing! They’re telling people that even if they’re vaccinated they should still mask and socially distance because of ‘variants spreading’, etc.

  I have long felt that with this very massive vaccine campaign..this should at least greatly reduce or end the danger of the virus. But, if it does not and people are STILL expected to do what they have been doing for the past year - then it’s all been crying wolf and they don’t know what the hell they are talking about.