Posts by LongHairGal

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How many of you remember the "Pioneer Shuffle " and the special "time reporting" of pioneers?

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i started pioneering in my late teens an remember how slow pioneers would walk to the doors while out in circus.

also, they would not really talk to anybody at all.

they would start their time as soon as they got dressed an out the door, while us regular shucks started our time at the first door we knocked at.

LongHairGal

PONTOON:

Yes.. As I stated, only Retirees (because they are living off a pension) and schoolchildren (because their parents are still supporting them) should have been on the pioneer list.

Anybody else who had to work a decent job to support themselves and instead took the gamble and said ‘what the hell’ and pioneered/lived on the edge with crappy jobs for decades - is probably suffering this very day!

They fell for all the hype/Armageddon scare back then (encouraged in all likelihood by older JWs who were collecting pensions and who went to their graves after living a cushy life)…Whose fault is all this? It certainly isn’t mine. I was always the one who defiantly told younger pioneers privately they BETTER plan for their future!

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Governing body member has nervous breakdown due to bethel workload

by Witness 007 in

karl klien life story from the watchtower.. "president rutherford had repeated occasions to reprove me for breaking some rule.

(under president knorr 1950) brother knorr invited me to join the writing department...when i told him it did not matter where i served he reproved me..saying when an added privilege is offered we should be eager to accept it...my attitude was due to my health which has always been a problem.

knorr was older we were like brothers with the older brother knorr prone to expressing inpatients to my short comings.

LongHairGal

MARBLES:

I see your point. But, I did what I did because I wanted to highlight my experience as a woman in the JW religion.

I also saw too few experiences like mine as a single working woman on the forum. For the longest time I saw many experiences of men/elders who left the religion. I also was of the opinion that some of them left because their noses were out of joint over issues of perceived ‘disrespect’. It was a little more serious for me.

I also want to add that elders (maybe not necessarily anybody on here) were part of the problem I experienced in the JW religion. It was ELDERS who tried to target single women like me to do favors for some older people in the religion - maybe that older sister who regularly invited him and his wife over for dinner!

It seemed someone like me (single with no family there) was viewed as fair game in the JW religion by elders and other Users..Of course, they never got anywhere with me. 😉

Lastly, the elders were the biggest reason I was panned because of my full-time job. If I fell for their pressure to quit years ago, I would be in a predicament today. These people certainly would not be supporting me!!! This cannot be stressed enough!

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Governing body member has nervous breakdown due to bethel workload

by Witness 007 in

karl klien life story from the watchtower.. "president rutherford had repeated occasions to reprove me for breaking some rule.

(under president knorr 1950) brother knorr invited me to join the writing department...when i told him it did not matter where i served he reproved me..saying when an added privilege is offered we should be eager to accept it...my attitude was due to my health which has always been a problem.

knorr was older we were like brothers with the older brother knorr prone to expressing inpatients to my short comings.

LongHairGal

DISILLUSIONED JW:

Sometimes it’s hard to tell who is a woman because so many posters chose names that don’t indicate their gender. I made sure I chose a name that shows what I am because I feel it is important.

After all, my negative experience in the Jehovah’s Witnesses was directly because I AM a woman who held down a full-time job. That was a no-no in their eyes!.. They expected me to pioneer and pursue poverty and become a doormat for the old ladies and other Users in the religion. Instead, I became an object of passive hatred and semi-shunning because I did NOT listen to them. I chose the wiser course of looking out for my own best interest.

Like you, I also walked away from this religion.

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How many of you remember the "Pioneer Shuffle " and the special "time reporting" of pioneers?

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i started pioneering in my late teens an remember how slow pioneers would walk to the doors while out in circus.

also, they would not really talk to anybody at all.

they would start their time as soon as they got dressed an out the door, while us regular shucks started our time at the first door we knocked at.

LongHairGal

PONTOON:

I tried pioneering for one day. It was exhausting. Of course, I looked at the older sisters telling me to try it:..married with husbands with good jobs supporting them..Me? Single and supporting myself. No comparison.

I also cleaned a house one day with one of them. Two and a half hours we spent on one house cleaning somebody’s filth.. I looked at this older sister and realized SHE did it for a little extra money. Meanwhile, a MAN was supporting her.. Absolutely NO comparison to my situation.

Again, I’m forever grateful I never lost sight of the fact that I was responsible for my OWN life, not anybody else. I didn’t let cheap talk from these women and other people with different circumstances influence me. It didn’t matter how well-meaning these older JWs were..Most of them have passed away and are not even around to help anybody!

This is the sobering and scary reality of the situation faced by JWs today who listened to this advice to ‘pioneer’ years back and made no provisions for their senior years! 👎

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How many of you remember the "Pioneer Shuffle " and the special "time reporting" of pioneers?

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

i started pioneering in my late teens an remember how slow pioneers would walk to the doors while out in circus.

also, they would not really talk to anybody at all.

they would start their time as soon as they got dressed an out the door, while us regular shucks started our time at the first door we knocked at.

LongHairGal

FOOLEDNOMORE:

I don’t know your age, but be glad you quit and got a Real job!…There are ex-JWs and even PIMI JWs today who wish they made that decision.

When I was an ‘active’ Witness (with a full-time job), I was of the opinion that the Only people who could afford to pioneer were Retirees or maybe schoolchildren on summer vacation.

I felt it was the height of hypocrisy for older JWs collecting their pensions (obviously from the workforce) telling younger gullible JWs to pursue poverty and pioneer.

I knew in my heart these younger JWs would regret it later. I always said I didn’t want to be anywhere near these people when reality hit them..It HAS hit and their retirement age has arrived ..A few younger people back then might have pioneered for a while and then stopped for various reasons most of which were financial. They needed to get regular work. These lucky few could probably retire.

I am so Thankful I ignored all the labeling I got back then. I was considered ‘not spiritual’ because I wouldn’t pioneer/do favors for all the Users.. I perceived real anger towards me!!..As a ‘punishment’ I was hardly invited anywhere, but that’s okay. As an older person it’s absurd to look back at all this stupidity, but I’m very glad today I followed my gut. 👍🏻

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Back to the Meetings. It's Offical!

by pistolpete in

yep, the vacation is over, it's time to go to work------for free!

😭😢😓😰😡.

https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/.

LongHairGal

PISTOLPETE:

I was reading posts on Reddit about it.

A lot of ‘Faders’ and PIMOs aren’t happy about it..In fact, some PIMIs aren’t going to be happy either. A lot of people just don’t want to get dressed up and drag themselves to a place where I don’t think too many liked being in the first place. How many people gained weight and maybe don’t fit into suits or ‘dressy’ type outfits? How many like the idea of shelling out more money for gas nowadays to go to a Kingdom Hall that is further away since they sold off the nearest one?

In my opinion, the religion ‘needs’ to do this because they have to see with their own eyes a headcount of just HOW many Witnesses will return!!..Two years is a long time and Faders and fence-sitters probably would say ‘screw it’ and couldn’t stomach it.

I think the only people glad the halls will be open are the elderly (because meetings are their social life). The other ones I bet would be Users and ‘needy’/types who never wanted to work. (It helps to be in person to corner people for money and favors!)..The halls being closed two years must have cramped their style and forced them to get creative!

Even though I’m Glad I’m no longer in this religion, it will be interesting to hear how this all goes!

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Hi im df Nick in Arizona

by Nick-Arizona in

i'm from california.

i'm in arizona.

i was df twice.

LongHairGal

Hi NICK in ARIZONA:

Welcome to the forum!

I am a twenty-one year ‘Fader’ from the Witness religion. I was raised Catholic with a decent childhood who didn’t miss out on things a JW would…So, I probably had an easier transition back into the Real world after getting myself out of this rabbit hole/trap I mistakenly stepped into!

MARBLES:

That is a good assessment of the whole thing. Count yourself lucky you never got involved with the JWs as you were spared very much mental anguish among other things! 👍🏻

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The only man in the room - Kennedy 1962

by slimboyfat in

in the current situation, it’s worth listening to this podcast about nuclear near misses.

the cuban missile crisis was only one example, but is worth considering.

in 1962 the united states and russia went eyeball to eyeball over russia’s military base in cuba.

LongHairGal

SLIMBOYFAT:

Yes, I remember that scary time period of the Cuban Missile Crisis!!

I was a little kid in grade school and we had duck-and-cover drills, either under our desks or going in the hallway with our coats over our heads as we leaned against the wall…I was very intuitive and felt the danger and concern in the air. I remember the murmuring of adults I overheard at church, etc..

I’m sure some other people on the forum remember it was about this time that everybody started to see those bright yellow and black “Fallout Shelter” signs that were posted on certain buildings..my school being one of them!

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Pat Robertson makes one last ''doomsday prediction''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

pat roberston,92, comes out of his million dollar mansion ( which his loyal followers paid for ) to continue his doomsday prediction.

pat needs to make one last appearance to show his followers he was right all along.

after all his failed predictions on his ''700 club,'' pat needs to show his followers that this ''doomsday prediction'' is a bible prophecy.

LongHairGal

JHINE:

The USA is supposedly the land of religious freedom (last time I checked). Many have fled here from Europe and elsewhere over the last century or so up until now either because they could not practice their religion or were in fear for their lives because of it.

The downside to this is that there is a proliferation of every type of religion, sect, cult, movement, group or whatever you want to call it. Whether anybody likes this or not or rolls their eyes this is the way it is (until it isn’t). Freedom is good but unfortunately can be taken advantage of.

I don’t consider myself at this point to be a religious person. I feel that religions should have a material and tangible benefit to the public if they don’t pay taxes! (And so-called free bible studies doesn’t cut it, in my opinion.) They better have material and not ‘spiritual’ 🙄 programs to help the needy and the youth in the community like some churches in Christendom do.

Otherwise they should not be allowed to exist.

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Fearmongering news on JW.ORG : Russia Invades Ukraine

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

russia invades ukraine.

in the early morning hours of february 24, 2022, russia began a military invasion of ukraine, despite the efforts of world leaders to avoid war.

how might this military conflict affect the world?

LongHairGal

RULES & REGULATIONS:

I was not yet in the JW religion in 1975. I was blissfully unaware of this fiasco and living my life in the Catholic religion and working and enjoying life like a normal young adult.

I was enticed in several years later. The rest is history. I’m Glad I’m out now. It’s sad to read about what went on pre-1975 in the religion and how JWs sold businesses, homes, etc…only to find out it was all for nothing. I’m glad a huge chunk of people never came back to the religion. (The old adage of fool me once..). The religion’s cleverly worded response you quoted is, of course, denial on their part. Just where did the rank & file get the idea from??

But, getting back to the latest world event in the Ukraine:..Witnesses and any of these other religions should be careful what they wish for.. They have no idea what they will suffer. I have No wish to live through an end of the world scenario and I’m sure most sane, sensible people would not want to either!