Posts by LongHairGal

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Michael's Story (JW commits suicide)

by RolRod in

this is the story of michael.

a 4th generation jw.

elder, husband, father with relational ties to marley cole.. pimo, stepped down as elder, and the body went after him tooth and nail.

LongHairGal

MUM:

That is correct that ‘good little JWs have no escape hatch’. This is by design but they don’t realize it. It is all about control and insuring they have no place to turn to when the whole thing goes to shit. This was the sad situation this poor guy was in.

When I joined as a young working adult, they told me I shouldn’t bother with my non-JW family and get rid of my ‘worldly’ friends. I was told I should only have friends who are Jehovah’s Witnesses. They said everybody else was no good and the world was under the influence of the devil.

I held onto my non-JW friends for years until we grew apart. MY job was my ‘escape hatch’ although I couldn’t have known it at the time. It was one place where I was free and the religion had no control there. When I saw the ‘handwriting on the wall’ about the religion and knew I had to get out - I made sure I rekindled old acquaintances and contacted relatives!

JWs who want a way out have to quietly and cleverly establish some friends and contacts outside the religion for when the day comes they have to jump ship. I hope any lurkers can learn from this very sad story!

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A long conversation with mom

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

my mom has been on the fence for awhile.

she has done a laundry list for watchtower.

so i asked her, would you continue to invest in a company that promises outrageous dividends but never delivers?

LongHairGal

FOOLEDNOMORE:

Very good for looking after your mom now that she is in a vulnerable mental state!

We did the same with my Dad in his mental decline the years before he died. Even though we weren’t Jehovah’s Witnesses he was targeted left and right. I remember once yelling into the phone at some young female who kept calling him about the car warranty. I was on the other extension listening in. I told her she called three times that day and Never call again.. Some of these pains in the ass are legit but Will stop harassing a senior when they Know family members are on the scene looking out for them!.. As for the others that are just predators looking out for what they can get, you just have to be vigilant in blocking numbers, freezing credit reports, etc. This is a terrible reality in this day and age.

If I were still in the religion (which I’m Glad I’m not) I would be directly bothered for money along with anybody who looks halfway decent. Doesn’t matter that I was criticized for my full-time job. They have selective memory loss and it sounds like they are in desperation mode.. I don’t want anything to do with them… Why would anybody in their right mind want to be around this? 👎

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A long conversation with mom

by Foolednomore in

jw
friends

my mom has been on the fence for awhile.

she has done a laundry list for watchtower.

so i asked her, would you continue to invest in a company that promises outrageous dividends but never delivers?

LongHairGal

FOOLEDNOMORE:

Maybe your mom doesn’t want to leave the JW religion because her whole life revolves around it. It doesn’t matter if she sees all the broken promises because she’s there for the ‘friends’ she has..As long as YOU can see it who cares if she wants to stay in.

SIGFRID MALLOZZI:

I know about ‘older ones’ who have too much time invested there. But, if anybody analyzes the whole thing .. the JW religion itself cannot deliver ANYTHING. They are telling people that somebody ELSE namely, God, is going to deliver! The ever sought-after carrot on the stick (Paradise), is supposedly going to be delivered by somebody ELSE.

I remember how they constantly berated everybody that whatever they did was never enough. It wasn’t enough that I did my few hours of service on the weekends. No, I was supposed to give up my full-time job and pursue poverty to be in the ministry (so said the hypocrites with cushy lives already collecting THEIR pensions). I wouldn’t be retired today if I followed this garbage.

I’m so glad I walked away from all this. It was so unhealthy mentally.

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14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

by jojorabbit in

another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

LongHairGal

RESOLUTE BANDICOOT:

That’s good. I hate when certain people in the U.S. try to make comparisons with small countries in Europe when discussing the gun issue, etc.

There are vastly more people here in the U.S. and an unknown number have serious problems both social and mental. And it’s too bad if anybody doesn’t like me for saying this. A lot of people won’t touch this topic with a ten-foot pole..It’s hopeless.

Bottom line: if the sad day ever came that guns were ‘banned’..(and don’t say ‘assault rifles’ because it would start there) everybody can rest assured that every criminal and lowlife here would have guns. Yes, they would be armed to the teeth!!

The only people who would NOT have guns would be the average law-abiding, tax paying citizens who are the most vulnerable and preyed upon. They would be sitting ducks for anything! The only recourse they would have would be to call the police 🤣. Yeah. Maybe the cops would come, maybe not. Maybe they’d get the wrong house. Good luck with that scenario, everybody.

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Michael's Story (JW commits suicide)

by RolRod in

this is the story of michael.

a 4th generation jw.

elder, husband, father with relational ties to marley cole.. pimo, stepped down as elder, and the body went after him tooth and nail.

LongHairGal

SIMON:

I agree that being a PIMO JW is dangerous and that a person should just get out and run. They should block phone numbers.

However, you might be pursued if you are a man and/or have something they want or can offer freebies (a business, etc.) They’ll either come into the business or corner you when you’re leaving your house.

Being PIMO is especially harmful to a person’s mental health with all this pretending and fakery. And, they absolutely have to keep their mouth shut about anything they don’t like or else they are blown and everything can be taken from them as we have sadly seen.

Unfortunately, not every JW is in a position to just get out and run if they have family there or (God forbid) work for Witnesses. I’m glad I had no family there. The JWs didn’t look for me because I was considered a lousy Witness anyway. I had low hours and wouldn’t do favors for all the Users in the religion! They have no use for anybody they can’t exploit.

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Worship study this week

by road to nowhere in

since i need to keep up for family's sake i "study"(skim, its not deep).

worship: pray, study ( wt), go to meetings ( formal, not gathering 2 or 3), preach.

thrn add helping build halls, donating, and since donations go one way only, give material aid to others.. note construction time isn't for service,( but i may have turned in time for it).

LongHairGal

ROAD TO NOWHERE:

Sorry you still have to attend meetings for the sake of your family. 🤮So, it’s pray, study, meeting and donate (and give material aid to others)?

I’m sure there’s very much stress on that nowadays with all the needy people in the religion.

Let’s see: you have the run of the mill JWs who worked at not-so-great jobs and didn’t make much; you have pioneers of all ages (who didn’t count the cost); you have bethelites who got kicked out and hopefully brothers with businesses help; you have people with serious issues that JWs started studies with to fill the empty seats in the hall and then you have assorted types who may have lost their jobs because of Covid downsizing..Aside from this there may be a few responsible types mixed in who make a decent living: some older, etc.

The point is that the ‘needy’ types are more numerous now than over 21 years ago. I was surrounded by mostly suburban homeowner types. Once in a blue moon you’d be approached by somebody with an envelope.

This is in sharp contrast to what is happening in the religion now. So, in addition to not really knowing what they actually believe in, the JWs are pretty much about aggressive asking for money. People there are poor MAINLY because they followed the religion’s advice not to get careers or plan for their retirement..Meanwhile, I was criticized because of my full-time job.

I am Out now and would never tolerate these people looking in my direction asking for anything! Sorry for what the JW religion has turned into..That’s it in a nutshell.

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Meeting announcement for emergency contact info of non-JW friends & relatives (?)

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i just saw this post on reddit and can hardly believe it.. if i remember correctly years back they told you not to have anything to do with non-jw friends or relatives.

they discouraged you from bothering with non-jw family and to avoid them on holidays!!

i needlessly missed out on some delicious holiday meals with people who genuinely cared about me.

LongHairGal

Thanks for the comments. I guess we will be hearing or reading more on this topic as it sinks into the minds of the JWs there.

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Hospitality for speaker

by road to nowhere in

jw
friends

there seem to be hospitality starting again.

fully vaccinated and assume masked.

neither a set in stone rule.

LongHairGal

NEAT BLUE DOG:

I’m glad you liked my fast food comment and, yes, maybe that is too good for some of these arrogant COs…They can also sleep in their vehicle if they have one.

Guess you can tell I have no use for anybody who knocked responsible working people..but yet imagined they were going to be offered ‘hospitality’ or handouts or whatever. Just as well I’m Out of that religion. I would have a hard time being civil if anybody came up to me asking for anything.

WANNAEXIT:

What nerve. I don’t need to tell you where this character can go.

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Hospitality for speaker

by road to nowhere in

jw
friends

there seem to be hospitality starting again.

fully vaccinated and assume masked.

neither a set in stone rule.

LongHairGal

HOTPEPPER:

I don’t blame you for feeling the way you do.

I can understand the special hate for those who criticized people for working and then exploited gullible people’s hospitality. I was one such person sitting there who worked full-time and was knocked and viewed badly. Thank God I didn’t listen to anything they said!

Reading some of the stories around just makes me crazy: Stories about people whose families hosted these COs who ate their food and lived under their roof rent free - all while discouraging the children from higher education!

I have no use for anybody who gives the impression that money grows on trees and some miracle will occur similar to Jesus Christ’s multiplication of the loaves and fishes to feed the crowd.

Most of these COs are men who have NO idea of what it’s like to work and live in the REAL world. Some of them are even ingrates who don’t deserve the shit off somebody’s shoe. But, their sin was to discourage young impressionable people from getting higher education to support themselves. Now these people are grown and struggling in life today.

This has contributed to all the needy in the JW religion with their hands out..I could never stand to be around any of this now.👎

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Meeting announcement for emergency contact info of non-JW friends & relatives (?)

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i just saw this post on reddit and can hardly believe it.. if i remember correctly years back they told you not to have anything to do with non-jw friends or relatives.

they discouraged you from bothering with non-jw family and to avoid them on holidays!!

i needlessly missed out on some delicious holiday meals with people who genuinely cared about me.

LongHairGal

SOLOMON:

I’m happy to hear that old bachelor was smart enough to give his money to his ‘worldly’ nieces and nephews.👍🏻 Surely he wasn’t stupid. He must have sensed the JWs were sniffing around and that any attention paid to him might have been for a purpose.

Who would want to be around this repugnant and predatory mentality??.. I’m out of the religion mainly because of the 1995 Generation teaching. The idea I would now be targeted because I am single and worked is bad enough.. But to be asked to give money to hateful people who wouldn’t be caught dead in a full-time job I got criticized for is reason enough to stay the hell away. How revolting.