Posts by LongHairGal

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Awesome YouTube Video About The Dangers Of Watchtower & Jehovah’s Witnesses w/ 5 Million Views

by JW GoneBad in

this youtube video about the dangers of the watchtower and jehovah’s witnesses is less than a year old and already approaching 5 million views...approximately 21 thousand visits a day!.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gdwhdj7plwo.

LongHairGal

FISHERMAN:

We aren’t talking about the 40k and more people that you claim are ‘kicked out’ for ‘adultery, sex related sins, drug use, etc.’. I’m also aware of people who left through the back door. I assume this means Fading. I did this. I wasn’t guilty of ANY of the above ‘sins’. I left because of the 1995 Generation teaching. I was done with it. Period.

I see you take offense about the term ‘in danger and trapped’. This term may not apply to adults who voluntarily walk out but it certainly WOULD apply to a minor trapped in a bad situation. Also, since the JW religion isolates people, they perceive they have nowhere to go. If they are also victims of shunning the mental anguish is double. I get the sense you don’t see anything wrong with shunning.

When you talk about the message and ‘God punishes’ - are you talking about the future or now? If you are talking about now, how dare anybody there be presumptuous enough to imagine they have the right.

As far as ‘getting even’: I am sure many people feel this way because of how they were treated. Thankfully, I wasn’t raised a JW and never allowed them to dictate to me about my job. Others, unfortunately, listened to their detriment and are suffering today. I can only imagine how they must feel.

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Awesome YouTube Video About The Dangers Of Watchtower & Jehovah’s Witnesses w/ 5 Million Views

by JW GoneBad in

this youtube video about the dangers of the watchtower and jehovah’s witnesses is less than a year old and already approaching 5 million views...approximately 21 thousand visits a day!.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gdwhdj7plwo.

LongHairGal

FISHERMAN:

I just watched the video. I don’t know how you can say it ‘misrepresents’ the religion. Why? Because these things didn’t happen in your congregation or to anybody you know? So, therefore, they aren’t true..🙄

As I was watching the parts about the child abuse, I wondered how this happened - and I’m referring to incidents outside of a family. I believe this came about because of No boundaries and trusting everybody (which nobody should).. I was not raised in the Witness religion (thank God), and I can honestly say my parents would Never have left any of us children alone in the company of strangers!.. Problem is JWs imagine that anybody in the congregation is their ‘brother’. Big mistake.

With regard to the shunning: again I’m Glad I wasn’t raised a JW.. I experienced it to a degree. Now, I couldn’t care less what any of them thought about me. I’d be starving if I listened to them.

No, I don’t think it misrepresents the religion. You just don’t like that people are actually talking about and publicizing what really goes on there!

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Pioneer couple sense of entitlement

by nowwhat? in

so there's this middle age pioneer couple.

he works part time and the wife doesn't work at all.

their daughter is getting married and even though it is known they go on multiple vacations a year, they expect the grooms parents to pay for 100% of the wedding!

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

Thanks. It’s scary and I cringe when I think about it. I still have to watch my pennies though!

It’s just too bad that history keeps repeating itself in the religion! People there just suffer generationally in silence!.. What I think is bad is when someone older doesn’t warn someone younger. Back in the day when I was In, I pulled aside some young (entitled) pioneers and warned them they have to save and provide for their old age and retirement. This was my non-JW upbringing speaking up! Whether or not these people heeded my warning, who knows?

I just hope that more younger people in the religion look around them at older people who are struggling today and realize they have to plan. Hopefully, any lurkers on the forum will notice. Naturally, there will be the scoffers who won’t but what can you do?

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freedom of speech and loss of rights

by enoughisenough in

i was thinking about freedom of speech after watching a clip about the jw suing kevin mcfree.

they wanted to take away his freedom of speech.

but in thinking about it, that is the way of the organization, save they want to control thought as well.

LongHairGal

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

I’m sure this Norway thing is making the JW religion afraid.

Not just loss of funding but having a magnifying glass and light shined on the religion’s practices and culture. They don’t want this advertised and the world knowing what really happens there.

Yes, I always believed the JW religion hates the idea of free speech - for their followers especially! This is why they LOVED the days before the internet when disfellowshipped people or those who just walked away had no place to vent their feelings. If somebody was wronged or victimized they wanted you to just Go Away and disappear into the night. Just suck it up and get lost…They don’t want anybody around speaking up about what happened to them. They hate this.

Well, Thank God for the Internet.

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Pioneer couple sense of entitlement

by nowwhat? in

so there's this middle age pioneer couple.

he works part time and the wife doesn't work at all.

their daughter is getting married and even though it is known they go on multiple vacations a year, they expect the grooms parents to pay for 100% of the wedding!

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

Totally out-of-date thinking, but it’s still going on even at this late date!

I had this conversation just recently with one of my old Witness friends I’m in contact with. She is in denial about everything and imagines she can get me to go back to the religion 🤣. I told her what I went through and what I would face - if I were dumb enough to set foot there.. She never gives up her preachiness.

I told her I wouldn’t tolerate it. No thanks. 👎

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Merry Christmas

by jhine in

i don't think that it's too early for my annual merry christmas thread .

merry christmas everyone.

jan .

LongHairGal

Merry Christmas everybody! 🎄🎁

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Pioneer couple sense of entitlement

by nowwhat? in

so there's this middle age pioneer couple.

he works part time and the wife doesn't work at all.

their daughter is getting married and even though it is known they go on multiple vacations a year, they expect the grooms parents to pay for 100% of the wedding!

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

I see your point. You feel sorry for them and think the religion has more ‘accountability for pounding this mindset’. Nevertheless, I am not being subjected to appeals for money!!

I also would never get involved with any other religion/organization/movement either.. Even if the people there don’t have the same wrong sense of entitlement that some pioneer Witnesses have, the bottom line is people there are all looking for the moolah.. Because of all the social ills in the country, all churches have their fill of people looking for something - and not just from the institution itself. They are looking to latch on to people in the congregations!.. That’s all I need 🙄. I know somebody this happened to.

I won’t knock anybody who wants to ‘belong’ to something.. But, I’m not interested.

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Pioneer couple sense of entitlement

by nowwhat? in

so there's this middle age pioneer couple.

he works part time and the wife doesn't work at all.

their daughter is getting married and even though it is known they go on multiple vacations a year, they expect the grooms parents to pay for 100% of the wedding!

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

You know, it’s not about gloating or wishing evil on anybody..but these people have selective memory loss.

The JW religion discourages careers/decent jobs and attempts to ‘punish’ anybody who has it. The hateful attitudes in the congregations and class distinctions are encouraged by somebody.. It didn’t come from nowhere.. People (who meant nothing to me)..made sure I was marginalized and not invited anywhere. I heard remarks about ‘not spiritual’. I ignored it all and am retired today.

As I said, I’m not interested in anybody who fell for all the BS and is looking for handouts today. There is an unaccountability and a panhandling mentality that is present in the religion that wasn’t there when I was in. I’d never tolerate this.

It’s also hard to believe that even at this late date after seeing people in bad shape for not getting decent jobs, saving and the economy being what it is..that there are people who STILL want to pioneer and live on the edge. These JWs have NO business clinging to the fallacy that people are going to give them handouts - especially anybody there who got criticized for their career or good job.

Brothers with businesses are going to have to help all these gullible old pioneers who were in their heyday decades ago. They looked down on me for working and being conscientious.. Sorry, but I don’t want to know about any of them now.

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Pioneer couple sense of entitlement

by nowwhat? in

so there's this middle age pioneer couple.

he works part time and the wife doesn't work at all.

their daughter is getting married and even though it is known they go on multiple vacations a year, they expect the grooms parents to pay for 100% of the wedding!

LongHairGal

FOOLEDNOMORE:

So they had the balls to ask your family to make a cake for their get-togethers which you were never invited to? I hope your answer was No.. I’d never even say hello or look at them either. This religion encourages class distinctions and hateful attitudes in addition to the wrong sense of entitlement.. And they THINK they are in a ‘brotherhood’??

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

I certainly wasn’t one of the ones who put anybody on a pedestal. 🙄 I also heard about all those special gatherings, etc. Naturally, I was never invited because I was hated for my full-time job…These JW pioneers (who wouldn’t be caught dead in a full-time job) were really riding high back in the day. People were fawning over them and inviting them everywhere like they were mini celebrities.

Well, here we are today almost 2023..and if these pioneers didn’t wisely plan for their retirement.. they better go track down all the JWs who fawned all over them plus the ‘great ladies’ who hosted these dinners back then and ask THEM for a$$istance!..

I have no tolerance for their sob stories. If anybody came up to me with an envelope looking for $..my answer would be ‘Hell No’.

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Pioneer couple sense of entitlement

by nowwhat? in

so there's this middle age pioneer couple.

he works part time and the wife doesn't work at all.

their daughter is getting married and even though it is known they go on multiple vacations a year, they expect the grooms parents to pay for 100% of the wedding!

LongHairGal

DESIROUS OF CHANGE:

Yes, I remember the term ‘Gleaning’. I always loved how they tried to shoehorn a scripture from ancient times and tried to make it fit in modern times. As far as I was concerned: Let any of these people who want to ‘glean’ (instead of having a career/decent job) go and glean off their so-called spiritual friends who invited them to all those gatherings!.. They better Not be looking at anybody who they criticized for working!

FOOLEDNOMORE:

Understood that you are not a charity and you certainly don’t ‘owe’ anybody anything - regardless of what any would-be moocher or jealous individual anywhere thinks!

As for the sense of ‘entitlement’ that some JWs had.. I was appalled at what I saw. As others have said, not every pioneer was like this. Some were dignified and took care of themselves. But, these were usually older people in retiree category or a woman with a ‘worldly’ husband who supported her. The others were younger and probably shouldn’t have even been on the pioneer list. Remember ‘count the cost’? Nobody paid attention to that. But I did. I knew I had to work full-time. Got a lot of flack and condemnation for it but all these years later it paid off and their arrogant words mean nothing.