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  Pioneer Hours Update

  by Bartolomeo in

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  regular pioneers: 600 per year, 50 on average per month.auxiliary pioneers: 30 hours per monthauxiliary pioneers in march and april: fee reduced to 15 hours.

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  LongHairGal

  THOMAS MORE:

  Interesting that you say the last person to join your congregation was somebody you would classify as someone ‘with serious issues’.

  In maybe the previous decade+ or so that is pretty much who was brought into the congregations. I assume it was to fill the empty seats in the halls.

  The problem I have with this is because I suspect some people were enticed by the talk of a ‘brotherhood’. They might have also been told ‘they would be taken care of’. This is crap. Incidentally, I remember a sister telling this to me when I was new - but since I worked and supported myself it didn’t apply. I think JWs who study with people and tell them ‘they will be taken care of’ - are telling a big fat lie.

  The religion has absolutely No social programs to take care of anybody. What ends up happening is that they carefully target responsible people in the hall for money to give to these useless people. So, somebody like me who got criticized for working could count on some idiot coming up to me with an envelope asking for money. If I were stupid enough to still be there I guarantee this would happen!.. This is one of the main reasons why I am Glad I left ages ago.
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  bringing up the 1954 Walsh Trial

  by enoughisenough in

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  i went back into this forum a little ways and found quite a bit of discussion on the walsh (1954) for those newly out or those who don't know of what i write, you should really check it out.

  anyone who is a jw or studying with jw should see material from this trial.

  my take away...the printed materials of the wtbts were to believed over the bible and if you didn't believe the wt teachings over the bible, ( even though they admit to false prophesy )you would be disfellowshipped and deserving of death.

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  LongHairGal

  I remember reading about this Walsh trial years ago at the beginning of my ‘Fade’ and thought it was very damning.

  I was particularly shocked to read where (somebody) said that unity was important and that everybody had to believe something no matter how wrong it was and that change had to come from the top - or words to that effect. I thought it was all about ego and extreme arrogance.
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  Have you ever been on a congregation picnic?

  by LostintheFog1999 in

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  were you ever on a congregation picnic?

  i was on several occasions.. the arrangements were often announced from the platform after the closing song and prayer by the last elder up on the platform.. sometimes it was included in the service meeting announcements as "on saturday we're meeting at 10.00am at the kingdom hall for field service, and after field service for anyone who wishes, especially for the younger ones, we will be having a congregation picnic meeting at the beach carpark on seaview road.".

  well, according to the new elders manual you won't be hearing those words again.

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  LongHairGal

  I remember a particular congregation picnic that might have been held in the ‘80s or so.

  It was so-so. They may have meant well but there were still cliques. I had seen a friend who was walking around by herself. She said nobody was bothering with her and she ended up eating her ham and cheese sandwich by herself.

  I don’t remember any picnics after this and I don’t know the exact reason or reasons they stopped.
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  burning another bridge

  by enoughisenough in

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  i feel like i am burning another "friend" bridge.

  i just can't seem to keep the lies the wt prints to myself!

  i don't know how the pimo do it!

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  LongHairGal

  HOSER:

  Thank you for understanding.

  When I experienced this indifferent and uncaring attitude with certain Witnesses that I tried to talk to, it was yet another rude awakening to me even though I was ‘Out’ and retired.. I wondered if those people were in unreality? But, it is as you said about them viewing me negatively just for ‘who’ I was. They didn’t give a fig about me.

  This made me cringe at the thought about how screwed I would be if I didn’t follow my gut! I would be up that famous creek without a paddle.. I’m so Glad I listened to my common sense and my father’s ‘worldly’ wisdom!
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  burning another bridge

  by enoughisenough in

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  i feel like i am burning another "friend" bridge.

  i just can't seem to keep the lies the wt prints to myself!

  i don't know how the pimo do it!

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  LongHairGal

  ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

  As Thomas More has said: you cannot hope to make fully PIMI JWs see the sense of anything you say!

  A personal rude awakening has to happen to these Witnesses in order for them to wake up! And even then, it’s a personal journey that nobody else can do for them. I learned this because I tried, in vain, to tell Witness friends/associates what I went through in the religion with the shunning/criticism because of my career.

  These JWs weren’t swayed because of what I went through!.. I got two types of responses: some admitted that what I experienced was unjust and they were affected themselves.. The second type of response indicated that other JWs were not really sympathetic - almost like it wasn’t really ‘important’ what happened to me in my life!! This was a real eye-opener and I was glad I followed my gut all those years ago!

  I feel it isn’t my problem if people want to stay in the religion. I’m just Glad I got the hell out.
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  Happy New Year!

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  may 2023 bring you happiness health and love!.

  what are you thinking will happen in 2023....positive or otherwise?.

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  LongHairGal

  I wish everybody all the best and hope everybody on the forum has a wonderful New Year’s celebration!

  Be safe and happy! 😊
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  Is The Religion Of Jehovah's Witnesses Biblical?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  the answer is a definite no!.

  because every doctrine that is unique to jehovah's witnesses is not in the bible.

  the unique doctrines of jehovah’s witnesses are the ones that only jehovah’s witnesses teach.

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  LOSTINTGEFOG1999:

  Totally agree.. I remember when I was brand new in the Witness religion and they were talking about that Cedar Point thing.

  I absolutely did Not believe that any biblical prophecy pertained to their convention or their religion in any way!.. I just wasn’t buying it. I thought they were deluded and flattering themselves.

  Naturally, I kept my doubts and my opinion to myself. But, the presumptuousness of what I heard should have made me walk out the door then.. I could have saved myself from unnecessary aggravation!
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  I don't get it.

  by LostintheFog1999 in

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  i am a historian and the period of english history from henry vii to elizabeth i is my specialist area.. i was talking to an ex-jw about the time when tyndale first translated the bible into english with his intention that everyone from the ploughboy upwards would be able to read and understand the scriptures.

  it dawned on us both that this was a significant point in english history.. just having access to the bible in hi their own language allowed the common man to understand what god wanted him to understand.. it was and is, so simple.. why then oh why then do jehovah's witnesses think that they need a fds to explain it to them?

  when in the 1600s just having a bible written in english was enough for people to understand the word of god?.

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  LongHairGal

  LOST IN THE FOG1999:

  I am in total agreement with you. By the common man having his own bible, he can see for himself what God wants him to understand.

  Nobody else has any right to set themselves up as an intermediary (no less making divine claims)! 🙄
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  Just courius, some questions about the past

  by Gorb in

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  curious.

  time goes by so fast.

  who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?

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  LongHairGal

  DING:

  Speaking of ‘superior authorities’, I remember the religion saying ‘We are supposed to be in subjection to the superior authorities’.

  I assume they included themselves in this. But, I get the impression they do not think they are in subjection or accountable to anybody.
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  Police confirm homicide at Jehovah’s witness center in Colorado after shooter 'threw Molotov cocktail into building'

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

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  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11573103/active-shooter-throws-molotov-cocktail-jehovahs-witness-center-colorado.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top.

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  LongHairGal

  NOWWHAT?

  I am inclined to agree that the only ones brought into the religion nowadays are a little ‘off’. They’re lied to and told ‘it’s a brotherhood and they’ll be taken care of’. All Lies!.. But, I digress.

  This is yet another terrible tragedy in the JW religion. And even though we don’t have all the details..it seems this person needed professional help. Who knows what he was told? In the news articles it mentioned incendiary devices. This indicates to me that there was animosity towards other people there. Was he enraged because he was a victim of gossip or shunning? Who knows?