Posts by LongHairGal

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Cost of living crisis

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

during the height of the pandemic all elders had to report to the co anyone who was struggling with bills or who couldn’t pay the rent.

the co reported it to the branch.. i don’t know what happens next.

do the branch help at all?

LongHairGal

HOSER:

That was very nice of you to offer those gift cards to the elders ‘to distribute anonymously to needy members of the congregation’.

But they refused to take them saying ‘the congregation doesn’t do that’. However, I remember from time to time people were privately approached with an envelope asking for money for whoever.. So, they don’t have a problem asking.. Giving would be another thing entirely.

What I gather is they don’t want to be in the position of figuring out just who is entitled to this gift;.. and/or what happens when people who did not get this gift go to the elders and say ‘hey, where is mine. I’m needy too’, etc.

So, the elders would be in a funny position. I don’t want to defend them but this situation would inadvertently start trouble and somebody would come down on them hard, in my opinion.

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Elder asks my disfellowshipped cousin to leave house while grieving for his grandmother

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

fourteen years ago i started a thread on how horrible my disfellowshipped cousin was treated after his mom passed away and the terrible actions on the part of the elders at the funeral home.. 67. horrible conduct by congregation elders at my cousin's funeral.............. well, here we are 14 years later, and things haven't changed!.

my aunt ( who is my disfellowshipped cousin's grandmother ) was placed in home hospice care.

the nurse told her daughters ( who are jehovah's witnesses and live with their mother ) that their mom probably has 2 days left to live and that they should call the immediate family.. my disfellowshipped cousin and his sister show up in the early morning.

LongHairGal

RULES AND REGULATIONS:

This is outrageous and these elders have clearly overstepped their boundaries!

HIDDLESWIFE:

You mean to say that a ‘sister’ living home (apparently not guilty of any serious sin) but who had a job that interfered with meeting attendance - warranted busybody elders to go to her home and ask her family to throw her out???

Society in general has to be made aware that the Witness religion has done things like this! In my case, I also had a full-time job I was knocked for!.. Thank God, I didn’t come from a Witness home. If I did maybe I could have expected the same thing! Imagine the audacity of these rats?

I am happy for this woman as she got out of this trap of a religion! Me too! The sickest irony of the situation is if we were both active in the religion now, we would be targeted to give money for people there who never wanted to work.👎 ..This is the biggest reason I’m happy I’m Out.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

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friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

LongHairGal

DESIROUS OF CHANGE:

I got the same point also! Maybe as somebody who was already ‘in the world’ he was more in touch with reality in this regard.

I also remember some of the older and wiser Witnesses back in the day who lived well. While they believed the End would come at some point, they felt that you had to prepare. You did not see these people pursuing poverty or counting on something external to ‘save’ them.

That’s why I made sure I held onto my job until retirement and didn’t concern myself what anybody there thought.. These older affluent JWs have already gone to the grave!.. Any of the younger self-righteous Baby Boomers who did pursue poverty then are having a problem right now as we speak!!

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Cost of living crisis

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

during the height of the pandemic all elders had to report to the co anyone who was struggling with bills or who couldn’t pay the rent.

the co reported it to the branch.. i don’t know what happens next.

do the branch help at all?

LongHairGal

EXBETHELITE NOW PIMA & ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

Last I heard (unless something has changed 🙄) the JW religion has no social programs whatsoever to help the hungry, poor and needy. People have to look to ‘Babylon the Great’s’ churches and other government programs for help.

ExBethelite: here in the USA as well as the UK, prices of food, rents, etc. are going through the roof. There are needy people everywhere.

People blame the economy (as well they should) however…the Witness religion knocks college/careers and makes poverty out to be a virtue.. So when times get bad, who ends up the worst off? You guessed it.

So, in those few instances (the pandemic and now) when they asked around who is having a problem - just who was supposed to do anything about it?? We all know the already financially overburdened rank & file are the ones hit up for money.

The JW religion is now having its own ‘perfect storm’. All the underemployed people -pioneers as well as others there who deliberately never got decent jobs and lived on the edge waiting for the ‘new system’ as well as others who lost jobs because of the economy - are all gathered in the same place! Very undesirable!

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Does becoming (or remaining) one of Jehovah's Witnesses result in Poverty? Pew Research results differ from Watchtower claims.

by Balaamsass2 in

"raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.

sounded good.. what is the reality?

how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.

LongHairGal

BALAAMSASS2:

Yes, it does appear they encourage ‘child-like magical thinking’ and ‘big Daddy in the sky will provide’. They seem to be threatened by the brain that has logic and planning.

Of course, they hope nobody notices the affluent ones in the congregation and those already collecting pensions!.. But I sure as hell noticed it. The poverty pushed for me and other young people there back in the late ‘70s certainly wasn’t for these others!.. But, my “worldly” upbringing saved me and I rejected this absurdity.

As far as “adulting” (I have seen this term): when I was growing up in a suburban Catholic home - when I was in seventh and eighth grade the mentality of growing to adulthood started to be stressed. So, it was a ‘given’ that I had to use logic and think for myself.

I’m very sorry about your first wife’s situation. I seem to remember years back that a JW would not want to be seen this way because it would ‘bring reproach on Jehovah’. But, I guess things have changed for the worse in the JW religion and now panhandling is acceptable.. Again, I am Glad I am no longer around any of this. 👎

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Does becoming (or remaining) one of Jehovah's Witnesses result in Poverty? Pew Research results differ from Watchtower claims.

by Balaamsass2 in

"raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.

sounded good.. what is the reality?

how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.

LongHairGal

BALAAMSASS2:

Thanks for resurrecting this six-year old thread. It’s very timely since the same message against college/careers is still being preached!.. There are many new people on the forum in this six years. In addition, more baby boomer pioneers have reached retirement age unprepared.. Imagine the anxiety in the congregations?

JOEY JOJO’s post above speaks about a college educated architect elder preaching against college to impressionable young people. Does this guy have a conscience? And ROAD TO NOWHERE tells about how they are knocking trades!.. So, apparently nobody should work at all in the JW religion it seems. The elders and other people with businesses and cushy lives - that’s okay. But everybody else should be out in the preaching work - on starvation wages or unemployed.

I’m thankful I followed my gut all those years ago and held onto that job until retirement. Glad I’m Out.. I would not want to be around these ‘needy’ Witnesses who chose not to work. I refuse to be a sitting duck targeted by anybody!.. Unfortunately, this is the handwriting on the wall there for anybody who cares to see.

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Shunning and persecution

by Vanderhoven7 in

jws see shunning as a loving provision.

but if a mennonite gal is shunned by her parents and friends for converting to jwism, would this be seen as a loving provision or as evidence of persecution?

how about parents beating a daughter who converted to jehovah's witnesses?.

LongHairGal

VANDERHOVEN7:

A loving provision? Hah! I was a victim of ‘soft’ shunning back when I was in the Witnesses because I refused to allow them to interfere in my business about my job. That’s what JWs do: they meddle.. I had a few friends and stayed on the fringes of the congregation.

But, I certainly wasn’t going to quit my job to conform to anybody’s ‘expectations’ of what a spiritual person was OR to be ‘more popular’. And what value would that be now?? Zero.. I actually thought JWs were morons to imagine that being mean or ignoring somebody would make that person ‘come around’.. Thankfully, these tactics didn’t work on me or I would be regretting it today.

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Prediction of Watchtower in a Few Years

by Foolednomore in

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kingdom halls will be the thing of the past.. conventions (mini assembly halls will still be going on) but will charge for attending and parking and always a donation.

elders will play a much smaller role since csa.

cart preaching will replace door to door.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

As I recall you are right. The 1995 thing didn’t really ‘hit’ most people at first (well it did for me).

I believe it had a delayed reaction for a lot of other people. Maybe five or so years later some JWs just stopped coming.. They didn’t all die or move away either.

FISHERMAN:

Yes, I do believe the core of JWs will see it through even if they die of old age. I believe in live and let live. I was only Glad that I got out. Good for other people if they want to stay.

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All hell breaking out in jw land now this!

by nowwhat? in

https://wgntv.com/evanston/shots-fired-by-66-year-old-man-in-alleged-financial-deal-gone-wrong-evanston-police-say/.

LongHairGal

EXBETHELITE NOWPIMA:

Thanks. The link didn’t work for me but I looked up the place Uli Anambra State and it says it’s in Nigeria.

I hope there’s a chance these people can be found safe..

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All hell breaking out in jw land now this!

by nowwhat? in

https://wgntv.com/evanston/shots-fired-by-66-year-old-man-in-alleged-financial-deal-gone-wrong-evanston-police-say/.

LongHairGal

EXBETHELITE NOWPIMA:

You mentioned “4 JWs missing after assembly suspected abducted”.

I haven’t read about this anywhere. Could you please give some details about when and where this was supposed to have happened? Thanks.