Posts by LongHairGal

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2023-10-17 and 2023-10-20 Letters!

by Atlantis in

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2023-10-17-legal seminar.

page 1. https://imgbox.com/cm4qip9v .

page 2. https://imgbox.com/rvnapwrq .

LongHairGal

ATLANTIS & FEDUP JW:

I looked at that application and agree that almost all of the questions are far too intrusive (in addition to asking for somebody’s SS number) and definitely fall into the none-of-your-business category.😮 You’ve got to be kidding!

And just think that this will be entered into a computer database.. One thing that bothers me is that said applicant (with all their education and skills) is being ‘evaluated’ by somebody who can’t even come close! Somebody would have to be super PIMI and under a spell to furnish anybody with this information!!!

A while back I explained to one of the JWs who I keep in touch with that I’m not interested in coming back to the religion and have no intention of giving personal information or $ to anybody.. While I realize the average ‘publisher’ is not asked to fill out something as ridiculous as this, they have been asked to provide some info.

As far as I was ever concerned, the only thing they could ask for was my address and phone number. This is outrageous.

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Disfellowshipped, Seeking Reinstatement

by NotFormer in

do disfellowshipped ones who want to be reinstated still have to sit up the back of the kingdom hall, away from everyone else, not allowed to speak to anyone?.

when did you realise that it wasn't worth it and finally decided to stop playing the game?.

is your life better now?.

LongHairGal

NOT FORMER:

I have been out for years. Nobody in the congregation is supposed to speak to a disfellowshipped person, so I do not recall a disfellowshipped person going out in the ministry.

As far as whether a reinstated person holds the same ‘esteem’ held before: generally I would say it depends. I would say No at least for the first year for people to warm up to them. If it’s somebody’s family member in some elder’s extended family - it might be like nothing much happened at all.. Whereas somebody else in the hall could still be shunned to some degree even after being reinstated.

Unfortunately, this is a cult-like religion with class distinctions that shouldn’t exist in the first place - so therefore some people are viewed better than others. I’m a ‘Fader’and was never even disfellowshipped but I swear that some people from certain families were viewed better.. My ‘sin’ was that I worked and didn’t pioneer.🤷🏻‍♀️

When you ask if a formerly DF’d person could rise to ‘greater heights’, I’m assuming you mean can they be an elder. I can’t say for certain but if many many years passed and the person is an older person - I suppose it might not matter if they were DF’d and reinstated as a teenager.

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | December 2023 ...Are you marriage material?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | december 2023. study article 52. young sisters—become mature christian women.

18 you may choose to get married.

the qualities and skills that we have discussed will help you to become a capable wife.

LongHairGal

FEDUP JW:

I wouldn’t stay married to that controlling SOB. So I definitely would not have been marriage material in the JW religion.🤣 A guy like that would probably be controlling no matter what religion it was.

TONUS OH:

That was some spooky movie! I can still hear ‘Grady’ saying those things to ‘Torrance’ and trilling those ‘r’s. When he said ‘corrected’ he actually killed his family! 😮 And the poor ‘Jack Torrance’ character got possessed by that guy’s spirit.

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Looking for those with legal expertise to work for free

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.

the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.

LongHairGal

LV101:

I saw the hypocrisy early on.. They had the audacity to criticize me for a full-time job when all the older people were collecting their pensions!

I was always under the microscope being scrutinized and judged for clothing or whatever.. I also had pioneers scoff at me because I didn’t follow in their footsteps.

Because of this whole ‘institution wide’ condemnation of a working woman like myself, I made SURE my answer was always No to any request of any sort. I did not do any favors for anybody there (like other single women did), nor did I give any handout$ to the pioneers there who didn’t want to work.. (I might have taken somebody to lunch once in a while if they were my friend - but that’s it.) I stayed on the ‘fringes’ until my ‘Fade’ after the 1995 Generation teaching told me it was Over.

I’m sure the Users and opportunists there didn’t like this, but that’s the consequence of faulty teachings and engendering hateful class distinctions in the congregations. This is a worthless religion.

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Six minute video of WTBT$ begging for money, now on JWBorg website

by EasyPrompt in

six minute video of wtbt$ begging for money, now on jwborg website.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/accomplishministry/pub-mwbv_202311_1_video.

"thank you for 'setting something aside'" robert butler.

LongHairGal

BOOGER MAN:

Hell could freeze over before the religion tells ‘career JWs’ to provide for themselves like Paul… Then they’d have to apologize to the countless JWs who didn’t and are now needy.. Plus, they’d also have to apologize to people (like me) who got knocked for working. I think they would rather die than apologize for anything.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

It would not surprise me either to hear the religion actually comes out and starts tithing. I wonder how that would go over with anybody still left in this religion!

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | December 2023 ...Are you marriage material?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | december 2023. study article 52. young sisters—become mature christian women.

18 you may choose to get married.

the qualities and skills that we have discussed will help you to become a capable wife.

LongHairGal

According to that article, I suppose I wasn’t ‘marriage material’ back in the day. Maybe never was.🤣 Not that there were many attractive eligible men in the ‘truth’.. All the good ones were taken.. But, that’s besides the point: I wasn’t raised in the religion, I wasn’t a pioneer and I worked!

Even if I excelled at practical knowledge and managing money, they wouldn’t have considered me ‘theocratic’ enough because I’m too ‘independent’.👍🏻 Please note that I consider these expressions to be hilarious.. When I hear the term ‘Mature Christian’ I want to barf.

Anyway, it was just interesting to look back at the past.

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Looking for those with legal expertise to work for free

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.

the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.

LongHairGal

BALAAMSASS2:

Sorry to come on so strong but I wasn’t directing it at you. This topic makes my blood boil.

While there are those on here who wonder if this for CSA cases, I don’t care what they want the free legal help for. It’s the principle of the thing that the religion unashamedly knocked people who got college/careers.

Worse yet, hateful attitudes and class distinctions were evident in the congregations because of this. The only ‘good JWs’ were in the cleaning or window washing business. If you had college or white collar job that was ‘bad’. These cleaners were partly responsible for the bad attitudes (this is why I don’t feel sorry at the cliche jokes about cleaners that some get offended by).

I saw this and experienced condemnation and not being invited because I wouldn’t quit my job. Even though I’m glad I never caved in to the pressure - I can never forgive the religion for their hypocrisy!

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Looking for those with legal expertise to work for free

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.

the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.

LongHairGal

BALAAMSASS2:

The people you mention also have to earn a living to pay bills, have a roof over their head, put food on the table, right?? Therefore, they can’t be doing things for Free! I am assuming they paid for their own education.

All that schooling and these seemingly intelligent people never learned how to say ‘NO’??? I guess since I was not raised-in it was easier to say ‘No’ and stand up for myself. Forgive me for being annoyed to even read about this.

After a doing a favor once, the next time should be a ‘No’. Maybe they should all go back and take some self-assertiveness courses and practice saying ‘No’ in front of a mirror.

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Looking for those with legal expertise to work for free

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

an announcement to all congregations those with legal experience please come and work for free to cover up child abusers.. i mean what else would it be for?.

the cheek of it.. so the direction was always don’t go for advanced education and careers but now they are looking for such ones to give if their time and education for free?.

LongHairGal

TONUS OH:

I understand your sarcasm!

I feel this is also akin to JWs criticizing a person with a job/career but yet imagining that same person should give a$$istance to people in the religion who never worked!!

This is what I encountered. When I attempted to explain it to a JW I was friendly with in the early years - she responded with anger!.. I just cannot get over the wrong attitude of entitlement coupled with selective memory loss that too many Witnesses have.

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Jehovah's Witnesses no longer count time. How is this news affecting moral and meeting attendance at local congregations?

by Balaamsass2 in

no more watchtower and awake mags every 2 weeks to place.

no private home book studies.

no more "essential" spiritual food meals 5x a week.

LongHairGal

LV101:

Yes, I’m sure the ‘sheeple’ ‘still kickin’ with retirement plans are looking very good in the ‘club’ now! The problem is:.. who wants to be a sitting duck targeted to give money to people there who never worked??

I know I wouldn’t be. This is partly why I wouldn’t set foot in a congregation now… It’s not just that JWs didn’t want to work (many people don’t want to work).. The SIN was engendering hateful attitudes and class distinctions in the congregations.

I don’t know who started this, but this is what the religion ended up being and this was a total turn-off to me. This was in addition to them trying to use tactics to get me to quit my full-time job to do housecleaning/full-time ministry. I wouldn’t have retired if I listened to them!