this is for all the ex-jw's on that dreadful day..... do you remember where you were when jfk was shot in dallas, tx?
I was in Catholic grade school. (The nuns were so proud we had an Irish Catholic president.)
Anyway, the principal cut in and announced over the loudspeaker: ‘say a prayer because your president has been shot’. A short time later she cut in and said: ‘say a prayer because your president is dead’.
i been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….
…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….
…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….
VIDIOT & BETH SARIM:
So, let them double down on the hatred of people who don’t go anymore.
And I was never the type to try to ‘drag anybody out of the religion’. I always believed in ‘live and let live’. Obviously, JWs do not. They are very threatened by anybody who has stopped being active in the religion.
I have seen this lately. It took a long time because I walked away over two decades ago. It’s just as well. I won’t have to hear bellyaching about the consequences of anybody following bad advice and zero financial planning.
The clock on the wall was ticking while these Witnesses were in fantasy/sleep mode.. When I heard the religion recently did away with the reporting of hours - I was thankful I never listened to any of this!
just watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .
be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?
i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.
SEA BREEZE:
Of course all these increasing appeal$ are offensive and JWs are gullible.
What’s never mentioned is how certain people in congregations (who look ‘affluent’ or ‘responsible’), on top of everything else plus the cost of living, will be privately approached by some elder with an envelope asking for money for some ‘needy’ person(s) in the congregation... In all likelihood, the ‘needy’ person(s) hardly worked and never prepared for the future or emergencies - instead they spent decades in the ministry instead of decent jobs and trusted the religion’s promises that ‘Armageddon’ would come to save them.. Meanwhile, I was criticized for working full-time!
Even though I’m Out because of the ‘1995 Generation’ teaching, I’m super glad I’m not there now because there are TOO many Witnesses looking for handouts.👎 I would hit the ceiling.. I mentioned this in conversation to JWs who came to my door.
women make up the main population of the kingdom halls, and the pool of young males willing to step up to "serve" is drying up.
what is the likelihood of "new light" on jw women in ministry roles formerly held only by males?.
JHINE:
I know it’s hard to understand and must seem very pathetic to somebody who was never in the JW religion.
Men and women in the Witness religion are trained to think they are ‘privileged/blessed’ to do mundane things like this or clean the toilets. I don’t know how else to describe it to somebody who was never in.
I was never interested in ‘privileges’ or even titles - like ‘pioneer’. And Good thing I wasn’t. I wouldn’t have retired if I quit my job for full-time ministry like they tried to pressure me to do!! …When I read the news released on October 7th that they were doing away with hourly time being reported, I was very glad I never did this.. I would have felt positively ill if I had.
dbm writes on the question: will sodomites get a resurrection?.
i guess it depends the date that you asked this question.
here is a screenshot from a video which gives an overview of the changes (new light) on this question:.
BLONDIE:
I remember that scary description of Armageddon…There was a sister there who told me she would rather live out her life and die before Armageddon because she did not want to go through it!
Well, I don’t blame her and I feel the same way.. Anybody who wants to experience the end of the world scenario as described in the Bible is just plain nuts.. Some JWs might say they want the ‘paradise’ so badly they would - but I don’t think they know what they’re asking for.
this is from a site called "atheist republic" :.
" the phenomenon of "nones" — individuals who claim no religious affiliation — is rapidly reshaping america's religious landscape.
recent surveys by the associated press-norc center for public affairs research indicate that 30% of u.s. adults identify as nonreligious.
PHIZZY:
It might be that in the Western world (especially the USA) that Christian religions are decreasing. Not so sure about dying out.
But, hopefully, with the public becoming aware of the harmfulness of high-control/cult-like religions, we will see a decrease in them. They deserve to join the other defunct religions in the USA.
Unfortunately, though, in other parts of the world, certain oppressive non-Christian religions are increasing - especially in countries that are so-called theocracies. People in these places have no choice.
i heard that the convention in india had a bomb go off and kill two people.
a former jdub..
MANN377:
Yes, there are already at least THREE other threads on this!
the magazine that they are studying in the congregation this month has an article at the back about how pornography in a marriage could damage the relationship.. there's one piece of advice that sounds rather scary, the wt suggests that the couple should "consider asking an elder with whom you are both comfortable to sit in and guide your discussions for a time.".
how many of you would want an elder present in your home while you and your partner discussed your personal sexual cravings and the type of porn videos being watched?.
LOSTINTHEFOG1999:
I’m speechless to actually read that it is ‘suggested’ that a couple discuss with an elder about their sexual matters.😳 Is it any wonder that I have such contempt for them?
I know Jehovah’s Witnesses, in general, are gullible people. But, anybody who listens to this has really checked their brains at the door.. And now, with very young elders being appointed, can you see the ridiculousness of this?
So very sad…It is clearly not safe in this day and age to be at a public event - anywhere.
The article I read said the perpetrator was a JW.. Whatever he was doesn’t take away from the fact that vulnerable innocent people were injured or killed.. Of course, any of us could be unsafe when we step out of our home.. But, anybody still left in the JW religion should realize they are very vulnerable as potential targets when they go to a large assembly and (maybe) even their local hall.
my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.
two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.
so is my grand uncle.
FEDUP JW:
What an awful story! This is the end result of being lonely and/or putting trust in strangers that are not looking out for your interest!
Makes me Glad that I’m out a long time. I would NEVER want any of these people around me - I would be afraid of their predatory nature.👎 And especially now with the desperation in congregations with all the ‘needy’ JWs who never prepared for their senior years.
