Posts by LongHairGal

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Money Is The Answer For Everything - Eccl. 10: 19 (NASB)

by Sea Breeze in

do jehovahs witnesses believe eccl.

10: 19 is literal or is limited in application in some way?

money is the answer for everything - eccl.

LongHairGal

DESIROUS OF CHANGE & HALCON:

I remember the saying about ‘keeping your eye simple’ and ‘being rich’ and who is to measure and say what these things really mean?

I remember 1995 as this is what woke me up and I ‘Faded’ at some point.. Any wise Witnesses realized they had to get decent jobs and not count on ‘Armageddon’ coming to save them from not preparing! This was almost 30 years ago. It is nice to hear that now the younger JWs are more in reality and realize they need education for trades and other careers!👍🏻

As somebody who (thankfully) was not raised a Witness, I could never understand how anybody with an ounce of sense would take advice from people cloistered somewhere who have no idea what everyday life is like in the real world! ..When I heard they did away with time counting slips for publishers at the 2023 annual meeting - I was so Glad I never listened years ago to all the criticism about my full-time job with busybodies telling me I should be in the ministry instead!

I would have liked to tell off a few elderly Witnesses who are no longer with us - to say to them how wrong they were about everything! Now their religion is being dismantled.

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JW Expanded Volunteer Activities?

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

i think the gb needs to expand publishers' volunteer activities beyond door knocking.. gb has shifted away from door-knocking to more varied forms of witnessing and no longer counting time for publishers.

my prediction is that the gb will start encouraging jws to participate in broader community volunteer efforts: clean-up drives, food banks, senior citizen support, and other non-proselytizing activities.

this move could help them gain goodwill with government agencies and the public.. expanding volunteer activities could significantly shift how jws are perceived by the wider community.

LongHairGal

WING COMMANDER:

I agree the religion has No desire in its heart to do any of the above-mentioned real charity and truly emulate the religions of ‘Babylon the Great’ they used to knock all the time.. But, I wonder if they could be compelled to if their tax status was involved?

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If the org. Is being advised by consultants, is a name change in the works?

by nowwhat? in

let's be honest, there's a stigma to the name jehovah's witness.

if they are going more mainstream.

i imagine the first recommendation was a name change.

LongHairGal

VIDIOT & DIOGENESISTER:

When I was referring to old loyalist JWs propping up the religion I wasn’t necessarily referring to money wise. I was mainly referring to them being there physically and moral support and faithfulness. They would go down with the ship.

I realize many of the Baby Boomer JWs are broke (because they believed the bullshit not to get college or careers). There might be some here and there that are doing well.

As far as the most wealth and donating - I believe the generation before them was more affluent. They donated the most money. I realize there are only very few of these people left and they are in extreme old age.

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If the org. Is being advised by consultants, is a name change in the works?

by nowwhat? in

let's be honest, there's a stigma to the name jehovah's witness.

if they are going more mainstream.

i imagine the first recommendation was a name change.

LongHairGal

TONUS OH:

So, let them go ahead and do that and try to get rid of the old-time loyalists. They are probably propping up the religion. Maybe both types will walk out and they’ll have nobody there.🤣

Makes no difference to me although I realize many on the forum still attend - whether they believe at some level - or are trying to appease family.. I also have to laugh at some of the suggestions here and elsewhere - whether they are made in jest or in all seriousness.

I’m just Glad I’m not in the Witness religion anymore to be around gullible sad-sacks and desperate people looking for handouts! 👎 This is all something to run from and be observed from a distance!

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JW Expanded Volunteer Activities?

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

i think the gb needs to expand publishers' volunteer activities beyond door knocking.. gb has shifted away from door-knocking to more varied forms of witnessing and no longer counting time for publishers.

my prediction is that the gb will start encouraging jws to participate in broader community volunteer efforts: clean-up drives, food banks, senior citizen support, and other non-proselytizing activities.

this move could help them gain goodwill with government agencies and the public.. expanding volunteer activities could significantly shift how jws are perceived by the wider community.

LongHairGal

DOINMYPART:

Yes, opening food pantries and the like would most definitely improve public perception of them.

It would certainly help out those of their members made poor by following their bad advice not to get a career but instead be out in the ministry!

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If the org. Is being advised by consultants, is a name change in the works?

by nowwhat? in

let's be honest, there's a stigma to the name jehovah's witness.

if they are going more mainstream.

i imagine the first recommendation was a name change.

LongHairGal

NOW WHAT2:

I could be wrong and it certainly makes No difference to me…but if the religion were to actually change its name from Jehovah’s Witnesses to something else I think it may contribute to an exodus.

Too many have had enough and are already on the fence and are disturbed and disappointed by recent changes.. I could picture some hearing this, chuckle to themselves and then leave after the closing prayer - for good.

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Thoughts on Likely Upcoming Changes in the Org.

by Phizzy in

i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.

the org.

has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?

LongHairGal

JOEY JOJO:

I believe you are right about time being a friend and an enemy.

The death of older Witnesses can be a relief to the religion as they won’t be around to complain about failed prophecies/faulty teachings! Of course, the opposite side of that coin is that these older people are far more faithful than the younger ones would be.

VIDIOT:

When you talk about a ‘compassionate fellowship’ you couldn’t possibly mean some of the older die-hards in the religion!

These judgmental angry people wouldn’t have an ounce of compassion and I could actually picture them very vigorously barring that ‘ark door’ against any less deserving (in their eyes) individuals from getting on!

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Lack of Joy

by Gorb in

jw
friends

because of some respect for family members, we visited the memorial today.. a moment i always think, could i go back into this religion?

we entered the hall and some said a short hello.

and with short i say short.

LongHairGal

GORB:

I am not surprised you encountered short ‘hellos’ and a general grim feeling in the congregation at this year’s memorial.(lower case).

Even though the Witnesses were more upbeat years ago, I couldn’t wait until it was over so I could run home! It seemed absurd to pass those plates like a charade.

Thinking about it, I can understand the feeling of disappointment today some JWs can’t hide.. After all, many are now seniors (after being assured by the religion they would never get old ‘in this system of things’). This isn’t always pleasant even for people who planned financially.. How must others feel who didn’t ?

To add insult to injury, the JW religion’s teachings recently got gutted (and they may not even be done yet).. Even the most faithful probably wonder how they should feel about everything. I’m sure there are a lot of mixed emotions - anxiety, resentfulness and other things as well!!

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Punkofnice

by jhine in

jw
friends

does anyone know how punky is ?

he hasn't posted in a while ?

jan from tam .

LongHairGal

PUNK OF NICE:

I agree that the Witness religion is a distant memory many of us no longer identify with.. The recent shocking changes there (and those yet to come) are meaningless to those of us who have been Out for so long!

It is always wonderful to hear of other ex-JWs who are getting on with their lives. Be Happy!

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New light on shunning?

by Mikejw in

one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.

he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .

what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.

LongHairGal

JEHOVAXX:

This was a good video and I do feel sorry for anybody raised in the JW religion.

She’s very correct that JW family are toxic and incapable of normal relationships since they are brainwashed. She is wise to tell DF’d people to keep their expectations low if they are contacted by JW family who have been shunning them for many years.

I always thought it absurd that Witnesses act as if people are like light switches that can be turned On and Off… Maybe it’s part of the absurd teachings that nothing we endure now means anything because the ‘paradise’ is coming, etc.🙄 So, JWs imagine people they have harmed are supposed to forgive them and just forget about it.👎 It’s part of the culture of unaccountability that persists there, in my opinion.

DESIROUS OF CHANGE:

I don’t blame anybody for not wanting to sit in front of judgmental men in a religion. I never accepted their assertion of ‘authority’. They act like they are ‘somebody’.