Posts by LongHairGal

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40 Years Ago Today: May 15th 1984 "1914 Generation" issue was released. False prophecy, thy name is WatchTower.

by WingCommander in

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it's incredible how this cover, and also this "series" of watchtower's is burned into my mind.

i was almost 5 years old when these were released.

“1914 and you” — may 1, 1984 watchtower.

LongHairGal

WING COMMANDER:

Yes, they have insulted everybody’s intelligence for so long.

They cannot tolerate anybody ‘waking up’ or showing intelligence of any sort and asking questions. Think of the story of “The Emperor’s New Clothes” with everybody going along with the charade and the little kid at the end who exclaims “the Emperor is naked”…To the religion, that little kid would be an apostate.

I also feel that people should have woken up with the 1995 Generation teaching.. I certainly did.. Then that ‘Overlapping’ nonsense came out and maybe some more woke up. I certainly have no respect for anybody who stayed after this - but many JWs are desperate to believe the religion and make excuses for it. The older diehards who are there now aren’t going anywhere no matter what is taught! 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Paradise

by Gorb in

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the ot of wing commander made me think about the following.. i was born in 1970, 4th generation jw.

in the 70's i got the indirect message of 1975, and in the early 80's we were promissed a paradise were we could life for ever!

this all combined with the 1914 doctrine.. it was all about show activity and works, that lead to a reward, the paradise earth.. i'm curious about the jw's of later years and the current "generation z".. we don't visit the hall, maybe once in a year.

LongHairGal

GORB:

In recent communications with some Witness friends I keep in touch with - they keep saying the End is so close - which means Armageddon - which would bring the new system’ (which would turn into the paradise) if I’m not mistaken.

These JWs know I’m ‘Out’ but wishing I’d come back. So, I never bring up the absurd teachings of the religion!.. I just knock the new changes to them showing the religion taught unbiblical things in the first place. Unfortunately, their response is the defense of ‘imperfection’ which I’m tired of hearing.

Personally, I don’t think somebody can claim ‘imperfection’ after they claimed they spoke for God.

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40 Years Ago Today: May 15th 1984 "1914 Generation" issue was released. False prophecy, thy name is WatchTower.

by WingCommander in

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friends

it's incredible how this cover, and also this "series" of watchtower's is burned into my mind.

i was almost 5 years old when these were released.

“1914 and you” — may 1, 1984 watchtower.

LongHairGal

WING COMMANDER:

I remember 1984 and those particular magazines.

Those were the early days of my being in the Witness religion. The fervor for pioneering was absolutely off the charts - and I got so much grief for having a full-time job!

But, now, here we are and all those people pictured on that magazine are gone.. And, the self-assured somewhat arrogant individuals I remembered in the congregation have gotten old - with some having passed away.. I would have loved to have talked to some of them to tell them how I feel about everything and how I’m Glad I never listened!😉

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Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores

by Sea Breeze in

the watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .

“how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!

besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.

LongHairGal

SEA BREEZE:

When you read this language the JW religion uses when describing other Christian religions, it sounds almost psycho! Back in the early days when I was ‘in’ (and didn’t know the real story) this bothered me.

I mean, who do they really think they are? They are no more than an offshoot of the Adventist religion.. Anybody wants to keep believing this is ‘truth’, go right ahead.

So many of their teachings are man made and faulty. They keep on reinventing themselves as we are all seeing... What’s laughable is that Theologians have been arguing about many things for centuries.

Meanwhile these jumped-up Johnny-come-lately JWs who have no real education have proclaimed themselves experts.. I don’t believe anything they say or accept any modern person’s divine claims about anything.

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Moving on in a new chapter

by redsetter2 in

moving on is the hardest thing anyone has to cope with.. i have officially left the org.

and now it feels my family have been waiting to do this for a long time, officially shunning me, even though they were practically doing this whilst i was still in.. it feels like i've accomplished a victory and at the same time i feel guilty i was tangled up in communication with someone who "hid who they were" claiming to leak information from bethel.

i got the call from the man who i thought i worked with.

LongHairGal

PHIZZY:

In my case those vestiges were gone early on. I suppose it depends on how a person leaves the religion.. I did a planned ‘Fade’.. I remember that along the way I slowly disposed of all their books and literature.

I remember tearing up that signed pink song book I got for my ‘baptism’ (a total waste because I was baptized at birth when I was born Catholic).

The last thing I got rid of was that much altered bible.

And, it is true that the Witness life was like being in another country: a dictatorship! I remember when I read ‘Crisis of Conscience’ it sounded as though R. Franz was describing a communist regime!.. I couldn’t believe I got trapped in this.

No regrets about getting out of there!

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Disaster preparedness

by ElderBerry in

as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.

also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.

please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.

LongHairGal

NO ZOMBIE:

Sounds like a nightmare.

Probably the measure of ‘spirituality’ now means giving money/handouts to people there who never worked or planned!

But you’re right that this could possibly be a new measure of ‘spirituality’: the religion cannot deliver the ‘new system’ so if there’s a disaster they imagine the poor JWs in congregations are going to deal with everybody!! ..So many with no life skills expecting somebody else to bail them out.. I would never want to be near them!

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Children dumped at ministry group

by Mikejw in

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it’s not right for children to be forced to come to ministry groups on their own without their parents.

the parents just expect others to look after them.. we have this happening at our group all the time.

early teens and even younger.. the parents just want them out of the house for a bit and put the burden on others to look after them and get them home safely.. there should be an announcement or something that youths need to be accompanied by a responsible adult and not just dumped at the group on their own.. who is supposed to look after them?.

LongHairGal

CARLA:

Your post is spot on with very correct information. Unfortunately, many Witnesses are in total ignorance about reality!

ON THE WAY OUT:

You were smart to do this because it would have been a terrible liability... Nowadays? Forget about it.

Just being in a car in field service as a passenger with a distracted driver is dangerous. I remember once having to yell and warn the brother driving because he almost got in a collision at an intersection. His head was turned talking to someone in the backseat - and somebody made a last minute turn in front of him at the intersection and he could have hit him!

I might have used my car in FS twice. I had a negative experience and never again wanted anybody in my car.. Somebody’s child would certainly have been out of the question!

I’m Glad I’m Out of that religion and all this is behind me.

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Video: Governing Body's Ridiculous Viewpoint of Higher Education

by Golden4Altar in

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governing body's ridiculous viewpoint of higher education.

to see this video, please click this link: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=186#p186.

g4a.

LongHairGal

GOLDEN4ALTAR:

Yes, it’s certainly obvious to everybody at this point that the JW religion hates higher education because it promotes critical thinking.

They don’t like this because they want uneducated simpletons sitting there nodding ‘yes’.. What I noticed back when I was in was that there were studies started with people on the fringes who had serious issues.. A little higher education would have certainly benefited these individuals. Some had no life skills!!!..

Even if the religion ‘hates’ education the way it does - they have to acknowledge that they have people there that are very much below par!.. I think they should at least publish useful articles in their magazines that that can help these people.

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What makes a cult (in the pejorative sense)?

by Vanderhoven7 in

michael moore writes:.

a cult is an organization that enslaves minds and destroys families using cult mind control.

cult mind control involves orchestrated deception, social pressure, psychological abuse, and repetitive indoctrination (brainwashing) centering around an unchallengeable ideology enforced in a totalitarian way in a closed socially-separatist community setting.

LongHairGal

VANDERHOVEN7:

Answering the first post: I would have to say the biggest indicator of whether or not somebody is in a ‘cult’ is how they are treated when they try to leave.

If everybody sees how JWs are treated when they leave - they have their answer in black and white!

As regards the man in the picture with the poster: this may help potentially interested people because they can look up what it’s all about on the internet! ..Too bad the internet wasn’t around back when I was young and interested. I would have saved myself much trouble and aggravation.. And even though I ended up okay, Thank God - I could have been spared some unpleasant memories.

As for older PIMI JWs seeing this poster: it would not move them an inch. They are in til the bitter End…But, they can keep it.

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2024-05-May-S-147-Dress-and-Grooming-Announcements!

by Atlantis in

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2024-05-may-s-147-dress and grooming-announcements and reminders!.

https://pdfupload.io/docs/4d0d5bcf.

grandpa!.

LongHairGal

ATLANTIS:

A friend, who is also a former Witness, observed Witnesses around the city where they live (manning carts, etc.)

This person’s opinion is that the JWs NOW look really crummy with the relaxed dress rules along with the unshaven look.. There were even some spotted wearing jeans. (I am sure this isn’t allowed but there’s always somebody who will take advantage).

Probably the religion sees this and wants to reel everybody back in before they start wearing clown pants and flip flops.