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  Annual Meeting live updates

  by ukpimo in

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  i have obtained the live link for the annual meeting tomorrow:.

  annual meeting live link.

  the meeting will begin at 9:45am eastern time, for those of us in the uk, that will be 2:45pm.

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  JWGONEBAD & BETH SARIM:

  To be honest, I didn’t really expect to read about any big changes at this 2024 annual meeting.

  The annual meeting last year had enough serious changes that people in the religion are still reeling from.. To add any more now would send more Witnesses stampeding towards the door. They don’t want to lose everybody do they? So, they are playing it cool. But, I wonder if them adding those two new GB members might mean that somebody’s going to have to go(?)

  It will be interesting to see what happens but even if they did nothing..the older die-hard JWs in congregations all over are decreasing with time!
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  What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?

  by Touchofgrey in

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  is there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.

  the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.

  i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.

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  TOUCHOFGREY:

  I believe Jesus Christ was a historical person. Maybe my opinion is colored by my Roman Catholic upbringing.

  There is a mixed bag of people on the forum: you have Witnesses, ex-Witnesses and everybody in between. Some angry, some not angry. Some pro-Bible, some anti-bible..Some ex-Witnesses are religious; some avowed atheists or agnostics.

  Whether anybody accepts or wants to believe Jesus was the savior or in any way divine is entirely up to them. For those who insist he never existed, whatever.
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  L.A. D.A. Announces His Office Is Reviewing The Menendez Brothers' Conviction

  by silentbuddha in

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  not sure if anyone really remembers this case, it was huge at the time.

  the very interesting point though about this was that at the time the parents were known to be very active in the jw religion.

  i also believe that the father may have been an elder(i could be mistaken, though).

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  DROPOFFYOURKEYLEE:

  Yes, there was a shocking case of the two sons who killed their JW parents (German sounding name) but I wonder if it was in the PA area.
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  WTS 2024 Annual Business Meeting ...

  by careful in

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  ... is just three weeks from this saturday.

  the org has been tight-lipped, really, successfully secret about advance info on these in recent years,.

  now that these relatively recent changes on dress and grooming, reporting fs time, judicial matters, etc.

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  GRANDFATHERED:

  Welcome to the forum.

  ILOOWY.GOOWY:

  I agree that the JW religion has turned people off from following Jesus as the way to salvation. But, I’m not certain where the religion is headed with this(?) as there were strange things I was reading over the months! (strange song introduced..) I could be mistaken but stay tuned.

  You are also right about people using up the best years of their lives. They served the religion and some have ended up destitute following very bad advice about not getting careers or planning for retirement. I personally experienced this pressure years ago as a young working person and am glad now that I never listened.. This should be a cautionary tale for everybody!
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  rant about the stupidty of JW r/f

  by enoughisenough in

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  putting this under beliefs,doctrine and practices because i don't see a better heading.

  here is what i have been thinking for years now and the situation with the recent storms and the devastation brings in closer to home in my thinking.

  i lived in western nc for 20 years and moved to wv in feb of this year.

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  ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

  You are right when you say “they really can’t talk about it or question that which is presented ….”

  I was discussing all the changes in the religion last year with a couple of JWs I keep in touch with. The change that shocked me was the dropping of counting of time with the slip. Obviously, this was not a biblical teaching and was probably somebody’s opinion. But, I was judged over this years ago because I worked full time and was that ‘low hour publisher’.

  I said that I was glad I never listened all those years ago and ‘what would have happened to me if I did’? Etc.. They were a little offended and it was then I realized that too many Witnesses think the religion is ‘right’ even when it is wrong!
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  OPEN LETTER TO THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

  by Raimundo in

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  i wanted to share with you a letter that is circulating in some spanish-speaking congregations.

  it is about the covid-19 vaccine and the governing body.

  there is an english translation that i got today and i put it in the links.

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  ILOOWY.GOOWY:

  ’Never heard of an elder asking to see an inoculation card’.🤣

  It’s a good thing I am a longtime ‘Fader’ who has been out of the Witness religion for ages. I think they overstepped their boundaries getting involved with something like this.

  As it happens I did not get the Covid shot.. I know some JWs who did get it and are regretting it.
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  rant about the stupidty of JW r/f

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  putting this under beliefs,doctrine and practices because i don't see a better heading.

  here is what i have been thinking for years now and the situation with the recent storms and the devastation brings in closer to home in my thinking.

  i lived in western nc for 20 years and moved to wv in feb of this year.

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  ENOUGHISENOUGH:

  I certainly understand your rant about the stupidity of the rank & file Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  They are not just stupid but are also complicit, in my opinion. As, It is THEY who carry out shunning and other evils in the religion at the direction of the leaders.. It was the rank & file Witnesses who made sure I was shunned and not invited years ago when I was a young working woman in the congregation.

  I am retired now but I have no pity for any rank & file JW who didn’t work to plan for their future.. They are just fools as your post describes - only they are old fools. And everybody knows there’s no fool like an old fool.

  I’m Glad I got out of the religion ages ago.
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  JWhub

  by Mikejw in

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  i’m an elder who is pima, i’m amazed how much info is available to all elders.

  you can see all private details of every member of the congregation.

  i wonder how these sisters feel about their private details being available to these creepy elders?.

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  ST. GEORGE OF ENGLAND:

  Good for you for not signing anything like this!

  I am a longtime ‘Fader’ who stopped maybe the end of 2001. They hadn’t yet started with this garbage about collecting people’s information. They had my then address and phone number and whatever stupidity they scribble on somebody’s card. That is sufficient info for them to have as far as I am concerned.

  Sorry for anybody who gave them anything more OR if they have details about any judicial committees, etc. Who can know what data base(s) it is in or will go into(?).. There is no confidentiality there and anybody on the forum who thinks otherwise is laboring under a delusion.
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  Jehovah Witness An Organization Of Shame.

  by WhoYourDaddy in

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  i don't have anything good to say about these people.. if you can get past all of the ambient abuse.. if you can get past all of the twisted lies and shameful history.. if you can get past all of the familes destroyed and children damaged from the blood and 2 witness policy.. if you can get past all of the real estate laundering and for profit lies; it is all about the money.. if you can get past all of the hypocricy and bitterness.. if you can get past all of the gb megalomaniacs.. if you can get past all those things.. i still can't find anything good to say about this shameful group of ignorant people.. shame on each and every one of you controlling liers.. shame on each and every one of you who aid and abet this continued ambient abuse and ridiculous fraud of an organization.. shame on you..

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  FRAZZLED UBM:

  Glad this old thread was resurrected. Don’t know if you still lurk here but your post is excellent.

  When I read ‘Crisis of Conscience’, what R. Franz described sounded like a Communist regime to me. Like you, I have no sympathy for the rank & file Witnesses.. I consider them complicit and it is they who carry out ‘shunning’ and other evils.

  I am a long time ‘Fader’ who worked full-time years ago who dealt with shunning to a degree and gossiped about by the rank & file JWs.. Now in retirement I feel no pity whatsoever for these smug Witnesses who reached senior years unprepared.. They listened to the religion and made poor choices expecting that Armageddon would save them.

  Here we are eleven years after your post was written and things are pretty much the same except the religion has lost many people. In my opinion, when the Boomers are gone that’s it.
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  1974 Watchtower Prophecies verses Dad’s Prophecies. Who was correct? An old guy reflects on calamity howling.

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  calamity howling is always in style with some folks, every year.

  1974 was 50 years ago this year!

  i was fresh out of high school bright eyed and earnest about all things jw and watchtower.

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  BALAAMSASS2 & DISGRUNTLED FOOL:

  It would seem all the worldly dads were correct in their financial advice about how to plan for the future.

  I would have liked to shake that elderly man’s hand who said not to listen to the GB with regard to your job/future.. There were so few honest Witnesses and I would have appreciated more honesty like this. I made sure I told younger JWs there to plan for their future.

  Back when I was a young working woman in the congregation, I didn’t even know who the governing body were. Why would I listen to some stranger telling me to quit my job and pursue poverty?.. What about the older retired people in the congregation? Were THEY singled out and told to clean toilets???

  I am SO glad I followed my gut and Dad’s wisdom ... I kept my job til the end.. Didn’t care who disliked me.

  I have NO interest in anybody there who listened to the religion and pioneered for decades waiting for Armageddon to save them... Let them go ask either the religion or their spiritual friends for financial aid!