Posts by LongHairGal

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Inviting People to Meetings

by HereIam60 in

the current memorial invitation campaign got me thinking about the few times over the years that someone i invited to a meeting actually came: .

1) once when i was "new", i invited a friend to a sunday meeting.

neither of us drove, so the brother conducting my study picked us up.

LongHairGal

LV101:

🤣That was me who said that about Witness bias against converts!

Yes, the prim “Stepford-type wives”, etc. that I encountered decades ago (who seemed in a 1950s timewarp) - all thought that about new converts, particularly if you were younger like I was.. Plus add the fact I wouldn’t heed older Witnesses’ suggestions to quit my job to pioneer and clean toilets - horrors! I would only be accepted if they could control my life. So I was on the shit list early on.

But, I can laugh about all this now all these years later.

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Inviting People to Meetings

by HereIam60 in

the current memorial invitation campaign got me thinking about the few times over the years that someone i invited to a meeting actually came: .

1) once when i was "new", i invited a friend to a sunday meeting.

neither of us drove, so the brother conducting my study picked us up.

LongHairGal

UGOT2BEKIDDINGME1:

Yes, there is a very obvious class system in the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

You are correct that if you are not part of the ‘upper class’ or ‘In crowd’, you are treated badly. If you’re not pioneering but have a job, forget about it. They will hate you.. [I want to stress here because I haven’t seen anybody comment on this in all my years on the forum:: but I observed there was a definite BIAS against people who were converts and not born-in Witnesses.]

Witnesses purport to want converts but I saw this attitude there when I was new... Don’t know if it still is because I got Out ages ago. Maybe they’re less ‘picky’ now that they are losing people…They were so arrogant with pushing people out - now they can’t get anybody to stay!🤣 Serves them right.

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Green Handshakes - Taxable income in Australia

by Listener in

i was doing some research on the taxable status of money being gifted to co’s and travelling missionaries and was surprised with what i found.

i had assumed that it was not taxable income in australia.. it is taxable income in australia and it‘s likely that the same rules apply in some other countries.. a registered religious institution only receives tax free status on donations because they have been endorsed by the australian tax office.

travelling overseas and missionaries are not in this category.. there’s a tax ruling that goes into great detail.

LongHairGal

BLONDIE:

I had heard a similar story years back of a JW who worked and their employer supposedly did not take out taxes and pay the fed or state.

It didn’t occur to me that this could have been a Witness employer… So I don’t know.. When I hear about all the horror stories involving Witnesses (stories I know about and others I heard of), it is positively shameful and I don’t know how they can call themselves moral people. They justify a lot of garbage with their convoluted beliefs.

I learned to stay away.

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JULY 2025 STUDY WT How to Give Advice

by blondie in

jw
friends

i scanned this article and i saw a theme throughout it.

when info like this shows up in the study wt, you can be sure the elders are doing it wrong and the wts hits directly on what it is.

older elders do it wrong and train by word and action the newer elders to do it wrong.

LongHairGal

HOSER:

I know what you mean about unwarranted counsel.

Years ago, a not very bright JW (elder) said a lot of crap to me out of left field. Just for the record for anybody who doesn’t know:: Jehovah’s Witnesses think they can say anything they want to a single woman. But, they would hesitate with a married woman.

All this encounter revealed to me was that some people in the hall were envious, I was apparently the target of gossip plus he had issues of his own.

Meanwhile, I was the single working woman with few friends, hardly invited anywhere!! I worked, minded my own business and made meetings as best I could.

But, apparently, some delusional people in the Witnesses believe fallacies that single people have ‘no problems’.. Some imagined that I ‘owed’ somebody something.. So, this ignorant guy spoke out of the abundance of his stupidity. But, I left him frustrated because he got nowhere!

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Green Handshakes - Taxable income in Australia

by Listener in

i was doing some research on the taxable status of money being gifted to co’s and travelling missionaries and was surprised with what i found.

i had assumed that it was not taxable income in australia.. it is taxable income in australia and it‘s likely that the same rules apply in some other countries.. a registered religious institution only receives tax free status on donations because they have been endorsed by the australian tax office.

travelling overseas and missionaries are not in this category.. there’s a tax ruling that goes into great detail.

LongHairGal

FEDUPJW & FULANO:

I observed when I was in the JWs an undercurrent of saying things were a ‘conscience matter’ with regard to an individual paying taxes.

Somebody like myself who worked at a regular job had taxes taken out of my paycheck by my employer. However, those people in the congregation who ‘worked for themselves’ whether cleaning or other..were on the ‘honor system’ as to reporting taxes. The whispers I heard indicated that many were not so upright as to reporting how much money they made.

For those JWs who were not so honest about reporting their taxes all through the years: ..it has come back to bite them in the end with a pathetically low Social Security payment!!

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JWs in the news: UK Telegraph:"‘Jehovah’s Witnesses told me I would die at 15 – so I didn’t save for a pension’"

by Balaamsass2 in

‘jehovah’s witnesses told me i would die at 15 – so i didn’t save for a pension’.

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LongHairGal

PHIZZY:

I totally get it for a lot of born-in Witnesses that they were conned into believing they shouldn’t pay into a pension plan.. But I fear common sense was kicked aside in favor of conformity and telling people their business. Why would anybody need to know you paid into a pension plan??

I am glad not all Jehovah’s Witnesses fell for this as you yourself did not - and good for you.. You figured wisely that if you prepared and the End came so what? But, if the End did not come your preparation was vital.. NOW, how about me who was not even born-in?.. I would have had to be out of my mind to heed their suicidal stupidity.

I came in a young adult with a full-time job (in the U.S.) ..and I was hounded by old people to quit and do housecleaning/pioneering. Meanwhile, ALL these elderly people were in the workforce when younger and were collecting THEIR pensions. Hypocrisy?? Or did they just hate women? Was it a holdover of pre-1975 mentality? Whatever.

The fact is, I never listened back then and am grateful today.. It was worth it to be shunned by people most of whom are deceased today!

Sorry for anybody who fell for Witness nonsense and are suffering today.. This is not an easy world to live in and even people who prepared have to watch their pennies because things are tight.

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1975 debacle

by Gman2001 in

did the borg ever apologize for 1975?.

LongHairGal

AQWSED12345:

Bravo for your very informative post about the Jehovah’s Witness religion’s 1975 monumental failure.

I think the majority of Witnesses under age 50 know Zero about the 1975 thing and it is vital to have a good history lesson on this because people’s memories are faulty.. In this case, even more so because it was deliberately covered up.

I came into the Witness religion several years after and reading about what people did in the years before ‘75 makes my stomach turn because this was hidden from me when I came in. As you related, many ‘thousands sacrificed their future for a lie’.. Looking back in retrospect, I wonder if the harsh treatment I received back then because I wouldn’t quit my full-time job and take up ‘pioneering’ to appease the congregation was the leftover mentality they had before 1975??

I am glad I later got Out and cannot believe this very harmful religion is still around reinventing itself and deceiving people.

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Live long and prosper: WT JULY 2025

by raymond frantz in

"now more than ever, we need to focus on our hope.

because we are living in 'the last days' and we all have problems that are 'hard to deal with.

' (2 tim.

LongHairGal

RAYMOND FRANTZ:

More gaslighting.. It’s infuriating to read this because the Witness religion’s policies telling people not to get careers/decent jobs is what is the main cause of poverty there.

Of course, there is the ‘hope’ (more like fantasy) they put out about a future ‘paradise’ that will magically take these problems away. But, for here and now, there are real problems:: like people who haven’t worked much because they spent most of their time in an unpaid ministry for decades!!! The religion is trying to make it sound like other people in the congregation (responsible people who worked - hint, hint) should give these people things..

What about the religion itself having soup kitchens and food pantries (like other religions) to help all these people who worked for THEM?? Yes, this is who these poor JWs worked for, not anybody else.

I predicted something like this happening years ago and I said I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near these Witnesses when reality hit them. It happened. This is the handwriting on the wall and I’m Glad I’m not there now.

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1975 debacle

by Gman2001 in

did the borg ever apologize for 1975?.

LongHairGal

SEA BREEZE:

I came into the JW religion after 1975.

The only whisper I heard about it was that ‘some left because they were serving for a date’…I was young and nobody told me about all the fanfare and buildup before: people selling homes and quitting jobs. In fact, I never learned all these other details until I left the religion years later!

You say all the ‘old timers who pushed the hysteria of ‘75 are all dead’. Yes, they are not even around to help anybody they misled…Isn’t that usually the case? When I was young in the JWs all the older people were pushing poverty sticking their noses into my business.. Well, those judgmental busybodies went to their graves after living a cushy life. Thank God, I never listened to anything they said.

The moral of the story out of ALL of this is: live your life and wisely work and plan for your future. Never believe anybody who tells you to pursue poverty because the ‘End’ is coming and not to ‘worry’ about anything. You’d have to be crazy.. In my observation, the poverty they were pushing was certainly not for them, just some young gullible person.

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1975 debacle

by Gman2001 in

did the borg ever apologize for 1975?.

LongHairGal

GMAN2001:

Not only did the religion never apologize for 1975, they hid this failure so thoroughly that younger Witnesses hardly knew anything about it.

The result of this secrecy was that decades later (90s?) some Witnesses made similar stupid mistakes again like quitting jobs before their actual retirement age and going where the ‘need was great’ thinking the End could only be just a few years away..

Problem was their money ran out but Armageddon hadn’t come to save them.😮 So, these JWs had a problem and were unprepared and needed to seek work at or near retirement age!.. Not a good situation to be in and one that could have been avoided if other older Witnesses were honest enough to warn them about what happened before 1975!..

I saw years ago that an unsuspecting person could be very damaged in this fear-based religion because other people will not speak up or warn! Too bad.