SYD BARRETT:
Oh I don’t know SYD. But I am very glad that you are SO bothered by my bizarre style of writing. I will keep it up. And I’m glad you think it’s nonsense.
Do you have anything intelligent or useful to offer on this ex-Witness forum here?
there is a lot of exjws who have been out 10-20-30-50 years, but for some reason, when they see a group of jehovah's witnesses, sitting by their carts, drinking coffee, scrolling through phones, laughing, something inside happens.
most can't explain it.
some say it makes their blood boil.
SYD BARRETT:
Oh I don’t know SYD. But I am very glad that you are SO bothered by my bizarre style of writing. I will keep it up. And I’m glad you think it’s nonsense.
Do you have anything intelligent or useful to offer on this ex-Witness forum here?
there is a lot of exjws who have been out 10-20-30-50 years, but for some reason, when they see a group of jehovah's witnesses, sitting by their carts, drinking coffee, scrolling through phones, laughing, something inside happens.
most can't explain it.
some say it makes their blood boil.
LIAM:
Well written post.
I am sure it’s very triggering for some Ex-Witnesses when they pass these literature carts manned by JWs who probably never experienced and could never relate to the trauma the religion caused to others.. I was not born-in so at least I had a ‘normal’ childhood.. I was a marginal Witness who kept working and did not pioneer.. When I planned my ‘Fade’ after the 1995 Generation teaching, I was thankfully able to comfortably go back to the good things and relatives I had. I felt like I started living again!
About the only thing left that might bother me about the Witness religion if I think about it - is that people can never get justice or get back lost time! ..But, I am extremely grateful I got out years ago and had no family there!
the governing body is going all out at this years convention.
they are still discouraging university education.
i guess the end must be real close .
LV101:
Like you, I couldn’t stand to be at a JW convention nowadays. You couldn’t pay me. Even when I was ‘in’ years ago these conventions or assemblies were an endurance test.
I remember the wasted weekends of getting nothing done and going back to work on Monday exhausted instead of being refreshed.
Lately, the utter nonsense spouted by the JW religion is something I couldn’t sit through. I used to cringe years ago at those testimonials on the stage of young foolish JWs who gave up scholarships to pioneer 🙄. (I was not swayed but kept on working.) Now the religion is reaching a new low trying everything in their arsenal to dissuade anybody from going to college.
Those Witnesses of decades ago who gave up scholarships to pioneer and who never got decent jobs are broke today and in a bad predicament in their senior years. Now, sadly, there is a new group set to make the same mistake!
does anyone have any information about a relaxing of the rules regarding family reaching out to disfellowshipped members?.
i've heard of an elder being openly in touch with a long time disfellowshipped family member.
apparently the term 'compassionate view' had been bandied about.. i can't find anything relating to this.. i'd be interested what the new rule is in when came into play.. hotb .
JOHNR1975 & UGOT2BEKIDDINGME1:
The JW religion doesn’t believe in apologizing for anything they got wrong.
I do believe that many of these disfellowshippings were probably unnecessary.. Egotistical elders just wanted to ‘show somebody’ what happens if they disagree with unfair treatment, intrusiveness and faulty teachings.. The elders were overconfident because the halls were filled with people. Now they can’t retain anybody.🤣
I am a ‘Fader’ but who knows if I could have been announced(?).. Makes no difference to me. What the religion fails to see is that most people long out are GLAD and have moved on with their lives after a few decades.. Except for a tiny fraction who ‘need’ to see their still-in JW families, they ain’t going back to this toxicity.👎
executive order signed this morning.
prescription drugs reduced by 30-80 percent.
investigation by doge found out that other nations that were paying $100 dollars for a certain drug, americas were paying $1000 dollars or more for the same drug.
BRIBIE:
I read some of those testimonials from Witnesses who were coerced to get the Covid shot.. What horrible things they suffered! Some of those that refused ended up disassociating themselves.
I wonder why the religion pushed this(?)
I never got the ‘vaccine’. I got a lot of criticism from many people I knew - but still wouldn’t do it. Boy, am I glad I didn’t. However, I am a long time ‘Fader’ and no longer in the JW religion.
the governing body is going all out at this years convention.
they are still discouraging university education.
i guess the end must be real close .
HOSER:
Don’t ever call yourself ‘nothing’ either because you weren’t extensively educated or held in high esteem by the Jehovah’s Witness religion. You did fine.
I, myself, was never held in high regard by the Witnesses because I worked full-time. I was raised Roman Catholic so maybe that is why this did not sway me.. I came into the JW religion with healthy self-esteem that everybody should have.. The JWs were bothered by this and because I didn’t take up the ‘suggested’ housecleaning and pioneering which they mostly pushed on women.
Today, I thank God I never did this!
To myself I wondered what all the fanfare was about with JWs striving for titles as their titles had No meaning in the real world!
it seems like the organization is hunting down pimos.
maybe the mark o donnell lawsuit is just the beginning.. this leaked survey in canada is asking some very weird questions from select publishers.
all i can say is that this will help wake up some pimi straddling the fence.
LIAM:
Unless someone can do this questionnaire totally anonymously, they are inviting trouble and visits by the Spiritual Thought Police.
A few of the questions stood out to me and I had to laugh: the one where it asked if you shunned a person because you wanted them to ‘feel pain’ or ‘shame’. That’s about right for some of the mean-spirited people in the hall.
The other one was people getting involved with the Witness religion because they wanted ‘material support’.🤣 Where was this ‘support’ coming from??
The religion has no social programs whatsoever.. What I suspect happened over the last two decades or so: because of the empty seats because of people having left, certain Witnesses started studies with people with serious social issues and made promises to them ‘that they’d be taken care of’ or some such crap.
Meanwhile, since there are No social programs - they ended up hitting up other people in the hall for money!!!! If I had been sitting there my answer would have been No since I got shunned for having a full time job.
Imagine being around all this now, in addition to baby boomer pioneers and others who didn’t prepare for retirement?? What a hotbed of trouble.👎
the governing body is going all out at this years convention.
they are still discouraging university education.
i guess the end must be real close .
HOSER:
That's a good question and I’d like to think so.
Some years back I read an awful story in reverse. As the story goes: a JW missionary in a very rural backwards area of the world (don’t remember where) supposedly had his missionary friend or partner die… Don’t remember the details if he couldn’t get any money or assistance, etc. But he ended up having to personally cremate his friend out in the field or wherever. 😮 When I read this missionary horror story it impressed upon me the insanity of it all.
Because the religion is so secretive and JWs are reluctant to even talk about their bad experiences in Bethel - stories like this one would hardly be known about. So, who knows about somebody having to come home for the death of a parent?
the governing body is now focusing on those that are pimos in the congregation, trying to wake up pimis.
they have a video series featuring a mom, dad, and son.
the mom is fighting cancer.
ANONY MOUS:
It does sound like it was made by PIMOs!!.. They are voicing the exact complaints people there are having and that we, as ex-JW spectators, know are obvious.
Yes, JWs who heard promises when they were young have gotten old and sick.. And the mom deciding ‘not to draw attention to herself’ means what?? (I can understand why some people may not want to talk about an ailment so as to not be reminded of it.. But, this gives the impression that it’s just reminding all the other JWs that yet another person is facing their end and the ‘New System’ ain’t here!)
And I like the “we’re Witnesses too but we have a comfortable life”. This is obviously knocking JWs who are better off financially or who maybe worked full-time like I did (shame shame).
Sounds like a crying fest. I am glad to not be around this somber environment with disappointed, sick or broke JWs.. Besides, they would hate my guts for leaving years ago and not listening to the B.S.
the governing body is now focusing on those that are pimos in the congregation, trying to wake up pimis.
they have a video series featuring a mom, dad, and son.
the mom is fighting cancer.
LIAM:
So, it’s the enemy from within.
Regarding the remaining people inside the Witness religion:: we can never know how many genuinely believe it OR are faking it for the sake of family there.
When I planned my ‘Fade’ after that 1995 Generation teaching, I did so without the slightest concern about what anybody thought about me.. I had no family there so I just bounced... So what if I was further shunned because I worked and didn’t pioneer?? Let them gossip.. This was no loss to somebody in my situation.
However, other Witnesses sitting there growing old with family in Do Not have this luxury - and they are sitting there faking it and getting sick and tired.
What an understatement to say I’m Thankful I got out of the religion ages ago.