Sunspot:
It makes me sick to hear them say that Jehovah blessed them when in reality the suckers in the congregation gave them the money.
Anybody who is interested in giving money for the hurricane relief better give it to a "worldly" charity where it will actually go towards that. And never mind telling me that worldly charities are corrupt (they are) and that your money is going to pay salaries of executives, etc. I know all that anyway. It can't be avoided. But what do you think the WT is doing with the money? Whatever they damn please, that's what!!! They make themselves untouchable and unaccountable to anybody. They can say or claim anything they want and never have any proof to back anything up.
You would just never know in reality how much of your donation is actually going to hurricane relief.
LongHairGal
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WTBTS: Do Not Mark Donations For Relief Efforts - Mark World Wide Work
by Honesty ini have just talked with the wtbts service department at 718-560-5000.. you can contribute for hurricane katrina relief efforts through your local kingdom hall and put your donation in the contribution box marked for the world wide work.
you may also send donations directly to the branch office... to the brooklyn address.
donations should be marked for the world wide work and not specificically reserved for relief efforts.
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JW says they're told to report molestation to the police?
by thom injust got this email from a jw about an hour ago: .
"i just went to an anti-jw site.
i was surprised to learn that we cover up child molesters, especially since it was announced that we should report child abuse accusations to the police.
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LongHairGal
I have been hearing two stories about this and don't know which is truth or which is fiction because I have never had to find out (thank God because nobody wants to face this).
Just recently I spoke informally to an elder about this matter in a "what if" kind of conversation and he told me that "of course I should report it to the police...". But I wonder what the reality would be if it actually happened. Would they be singing a slightly different tune? Would they be so happy for me to go to the police? Or, would they very desperately try to stop me with twisted reasoning?
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A JW PEODOPHILE RAPIST WAS BLINDSIDED TONIGHT !!!!
by Apostanator into give you some quick details, my ex-wife and her two sisters were repeatedly raped and molested for years by their jw father.
we went to the elders, and as you probably know, nothing ever really happened to him, all he got was privately reproved.
well,...fast forward,, i remarried and have a wonderfull wife who is also an ex-jw.
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Lady Lee:
I am sorry your mother is so dependent on a man she can't breathe on her own! There are so many women like her around but I cannot relate to any of them having been independent for so long. And I certainly cannot respect them because they allow terrible things to happen to helpless children. As for her saying that you need a good man to take care of you - wouldn't that be nice?
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A JW PEODOPHILE RAPIST WAS BLINDSIDED TONIGHT !!!!
by Apostanator into give you some quick details, my ex-wife and her two sisters were repeatedly raped and molested for years by their jw father.
we went to the elders, and as you probably know, nothing ever really happened to him, all he got was privately reproved.
well,...fast forward,, i remarried and have a wonderfull wife who is also an ex-jw.
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I am friends with a woman whose father molested her for years and I can't believe her mother had no clue whatsoever that something was wrong. I think she "forgave" him because she has him in her home and she goes to his. Go figure. She has never confronted her father and her mother passed away so it is too late. If that were me there would be no relationship at all with my parents.
As far as mothers being accomplices or giving "approval" by inaction this does exist and I wonder why. Is it because they are "getting off" on the idea OR do they have such a hate/jealousy towards their daughter that they would let this happen? I don't buy the idea of "fear" because my maternal instinct would kick in if it were my daughter. I would flee. -
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What's the big deal about a Circuit Overseer visit?
by jaffacake inaccording to the son of my newly baptised jw friends, they re-decorating their house for a visit and 'inspection' by the circuit overseer.
can anyone explain what the circuit overseer's visit is all about?
does he or she normally visit the homes of people in the congregation?
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LongHairGal
I might have mentioned this on one of my earlier posts but I feel all this ass kissing is a few short steps away from kissing somebody's ring.
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What's the big deal about a Circuit Overseer visit?
by jaffacake inaccording to the son of my newly baptised jw friends, they re-decorating their house for a visit and 'inspection' by the circuit overseer.
can anyone explain what the circuit overseer's visit is all about?
does he or she normally visit the homes of people in the congregation?
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LongHairGal
About the only time a CO got honesty was when he worked with the people on the fringes or certain elderly ladies. Then he got to see what was really wrong. Unfortunately, what is usually wrong in a congregation hurts these type of people the most - not the ones who are in the cliques.
If he didn't get to speak to these fringe people (or was deliberately steered away from them) what he got was a sugar-coated report from some cover-your-butt brother who didn't want him to see what was actually going on.
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Did you have any Kingdom Hall buddies?
by truthseeker in.
what's a kingdom hall buddy?
it's someone who you only see at the hall, and never anywhere else, yet somehow you manage to have a very limited "friendship" with.. i have a few kingdom hall buddies, we never meet socially, but they're always ready to have small talk with you..
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Yes, I am very familiar with these types of buddies.
Years ago before I had all the answers and I got so depressed I realized these people were not really friends. You could not have any deep conversation with most of them - or else you did so at your own risk. You couldn't tell them what was bothering you. It wasn't that they weren't nice, it is just that they were like a hologram on the wall. Not really there at all. -
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Bridal Veil used to hide from demons.
by Es inthe thread bout the gazing ball and the wind chimes got me thinking.
it was new to me that wind chime's are not allowed as a jw coz of the demonic overtone.. but then so is the bridal veil......some believe back then that it was used to hide the face of the bride from demons...you would have thought they had stumbled across that one and omitted that from jw weddings.
i mean here its even frowned upon to cut the bloody wedding cake together!!!!.
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LongHairGal
Well, maybe you shouldn't wear a wedding ring either because that might have some lore attached to it as well.
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You mean that stepford-wife voice? I never had it.
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Help me with a JW practice, "Reaching Out" vs "Simony"
by jgnat ina while back i read a wt article that denounced the practice of "simony", or the practice of buying spiritual privelege.
i wonder if there is a great difference between "simony" and "reaching out" tm for more "privileges" tm in the congregation.
after all, it is pretty clear if someone is "marked"tm as "spiritually weak"tm they can pretty well write off getting much sympathy or support from the local congregation.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simony.
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Scully:
You are absolutely right-on 200% about their "reaching out for privileges" and brown-nosing by inviting the "right" people over for dinner. I witnessed this first hand by a grasping couple in which the husband wanted desperately to be an elder. You had to see what antics he pulled to accomplish this!
In time he got his wish. Perseverance.