LV101:
I remember that Godfather movie quote. It makes perfect sense, really.
The character needed to know what his enemies were up to - because they were gunning for him.
are you reticent to express your opinion when it comes to religion or politics?.
when we were jws , we had to be so careful that we didn’t stumble anyone.
are you comfortable saying that you don’t agree with someone or something even if it appears you are in the minority?
LV101:
I remember that Godfather movie quote. It makes perfect sense, really.
The character needed to know what his enemies were up to - because they were gunning for him.
are you reticent to express your opinion when it comes to religion or politics?.
when we were jws , we had to be so careful that we didn’t stumble anyone.
are you comfortable saying that you don’t agree with someone or something even if it appears you are in the minority?
LV101:
Yeah, I know I can be a bit much..but I’m tired of B.S. so I might be inclined to be a little outspoken.
Also, I saw so much backstabbing and issues on jobs that I don’t have much camaraderie with other women. (Of course, I saw this in the kingdom hall too)...I’m pretty much of a loner and have just a few friends and that’s okay with me.
My sister feels the same way.. We are both of the opinion that women have to be guarded about themselves. Too many people looking to take advantage.
are you reticent to express your opinion when it comes to religion or politics?.
when we were jws , we had to be so careful that we didn’t stumble anyone.
are you comfortable saying that you don’t agree with someone or something even if it appears you are in the minority?
MINIMUS:
No, I’m not afraid to express my opinion in public.
It’s a good thing I am retired, because if some idiot in an office thought they would put something on my desk or send a communication trying to get sympathy or money for any cause in the news today.. I would go straight to them with the memo or whatever with my reply written across it in black magic marker.
They try to pull this shit with women in offices (they never bothered the men).. I was never very popular years ago when I made it clear I didn’t want to be involved in office collections for birthdays and any other nonsense for other women who either never said hello or who I didn’t know.
just wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this unofficial jw experience that my father received by email.
i’ve told him that it against wt rules to forward unofficial accounts.
but of course he just puts that down to apostate driven lies.
JOE134CD:
I remember all those JW urban legends. The religion was filled with them.
I never paid them any heed - along with the stories related at circuit assemblies where young people related stories of giving up college scholarships and well-paying jobs so they could pioneer. 🙄
What nobody ever heard about were stories where they were broke a few years later and had to enter the workforce.
the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
GONE FOR GOOD:
I came into the JW religion as a lapsed Catholic in the late seventies. But, I was not told the REAL story..
Let me just say that I am sorry for everybody here who has lost family members because of the shunning routine.
My first congregation was like a 1950s time warp.. I was the only young working woman among a sea of Stepford-type women who thought I was an oddity. Because they couldn’t get me to quit my job and ‘get with their program of pioneering’ some people wouldn’t say hello.. I was ‘punished’ by not being invited anywhere..I hardly had any friends and a few elderly were kind to me.
I was also scrutinized because somebody said my skirts weren’t long enough.
I ended up transferring to another congregation..‘somewhat’ better but the story was pretty much the same:..they were looking for drudges to do favors and were pushing pioneering..Meanwhile, like the previous congregation, almost ALL the older people were collecting a pension because they were in the workforce! See the hypocrisy???
I ‘Faded’ when the time was right..Today I am a Retiree so Grateful I never listened to any of these people.
the amazing exoneration of info sekta in swiss court has finally reinforced the proper way to exit an abusive cult.. never write a letter of disassociation.
- no need to invoke shepherding or judicial action from elders.
make a written, dated statement of your free-will choice to have abandoned the jw religion - secure this document with a friend -a trusted friend (not the jw kind).
GONE FOR GOOD:
How funny that you mention something called “sorry - just a visitor” status.
I never realized that was what I Ultimately ended up really wanting in the JW religion! Just plain old ‘leave me alone’ - like in a regular church. You’re a guest when you go to a regular church. I know because I was raised Catholic..You are not a ‘target’ like you are in the JW religion. They are looking for women to do favors and they thought a single woman with no relatives there was a perfect target.
They never laid all their cards on the table. I never agreed to this (among other things) and wasn’t having any of it..These people criticized me for having a full time job but had the audacity to think they were going to ask me to do favors!!
Without thinking too much on it or giving anything labels, I made sure I stayed on the fringes of the congregation until the time was right to make my Exit....The 1995 teaching on Generation was the catalyst for me leaving...It was All Over as far as I was concerned.
the latest instructions from the kingdom hall trust here in the u.k are very revealing, and current j.w elders need to beware !
i will get to that in a minute.
maybe in the usa and other countries too ?.
BETH SARIM:
The JW religion has changed drastically since I came into the religion all those years ago. But, one thing is certain:. any young people interviewed at assemblies have gotten old. So, I hope they prepared!
Not to get the thread off track but the JW elders I knew back then who passed away would not recognize what the religion has become. Who knows how they would react to this latest news?
I’m just glad I am Out and that I followed my instincts of common sense and worldly wisdom from my dear old Dad.
the latest instructions from the kingdom hall trust here in the u.k are very revealing, and current j.w elders need to beware !
i will get to that in a minute.
maybe in the usa and other countries too ?.
JWTOM:
You can say that again about some JWs resetting life goals!!
I would love to see what some of the die-hards my age from back in the day have to say about everything. These were the people who criticized me because I worked full-time and was not considered ‘spiritual’. 🙄
If I had listened to their criticism I would not be Retired.
in their covid19 related instructions watchtower writes:.
restrictions imposed by the government that affect our activities should be followed.
what changed?
MINIMUS:
The way I see it, the only reason they would WANT to get rid of meetings in an actual building is because they would like to sell-off said buildings.
Otherwise, wouldn’t they be clamoring to get back into these buildings the way some churchgoers want to get back to the churches?
so the jw's are no longer goind d2d but instead are writing letters- my question is what return address are they putting on the letters?
their own or the kh?
the kh's in our area have no mailbox and therefore no mail can be delivered or returned to a kh.. thanks in advance!.
CARLA:
They are not trained to see double-standards or even to think..Otherwise they would be headed for the door if they did.
I must be blessed because I have not received a letter from these shut-in JWs!
I suppose word must have gotten out about my views and they feel it would be a waste to even bother.