SIMON:
Well, I wasn’t aware of the part about keeping ‘most of your income’ if you live in the USA. I’m spending money like water.
So, apparently there are benefits and drawbacks to whichever system somebody lives under.
LongHairGal
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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3 years in the making
by Judgerussellford inthursday while i was at work, a new elder stopped by the house (almost 3 years after fading) to encourage us to go back to meetings.
said everyone misses us.
if you did, why not stop by and say hi every now and then?
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LongHairGal
Okay. (Peace).
Then you should go for it!
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An aspect of dealing with my elderly, PIMI, Father
by joe134cd infor a bit of back ground.
i’m a full blown pomo apostate.
nothing would please me more to see wt burn to the ground.
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JOE134CD:
I tend to agree with Carla that they know or suspect that you don’t agree with the religion anymore. You’ve been out for over ten years.
I don’t think you should write a DA letter either. Just keep your thoughts to yourself and don’t get cornered into any discussions with people your dad has invited over!
But, just because the local congregation hasn’t bothered you up until now, doesn’t mean somebody can’t come knocking on your door at some point…to encourage you. 🤮
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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HOSER:
Well, here in the USA it’s not like that. You have to pay into Social Security to get anything (unless you are a spouse of someone who paid in or disabled and qualify for something else).
While it may be true that they penalize high-earners where you are - the problem with saying this is that you will have lazy fools (JWs and others) who will use this as an excuse to do absolutely nothing. And that’s the truth.
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3 years in the making
by Judgerussellford inthursday while i was at work, a new elder stopped by the house (almost 3 years after fading) to encourage us to go back to meetings.
said everyone misses us.
if you did, why not stop by and say hi every now and then?
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LongHairGal
JUDGERUSSELLFORD:
I doubt he will come alone. The point is: why would you allow it? You should have met him at some coffee shop.
I remember making the mistake years ago when I was still ‘in’ of getting a shepherding call at my home. I always hated shepherding calls but this was the worst.
Even though I’m Out of the JWs many years and the point is moot, they would never be welcome in my Home for any kind of ‘official’ visit. No, I wouldn’t want them stepping over the threshold.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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LongHairGal
FOOLEDNOMORE:
Me neither.
This is why I am Glad I am no longer in the religion as I do not want any of these people coming up to me looking for money or anything else! This is what’s happening there now.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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LongHairGal
BETH SARIM:
We are over twenty years into the millennium. All the nonsense and fervor by Witnesses as well as other religions, etc. has been debunked. Remember Y2K? Also, enough Witnesses (if their eyes are open) have seen what happened to older JWs who didn’t plan.
So, I have a problem believing the same number of JWs TODAY are going to check their brains at the door like in the past and not plan for their retirement.
JWs who have to stay in the religion (for the sake of relatives) can still plan. They just have to keep their mouths shut and not blab their business all over the place like stupid children….This is a weakness for Witnesses and they better work on it.. Nobody has to know anybody has a 401K or contributes to anything.
Just make sure you don’t use a JW as a tax preparer like I did. My business got blabbed all over the place. I was told by this person: “you’ll never see this money” (meaning, I presume, that Armageddon will have come). Well, I am Retired several years.
I openly spoke about retirement planning if the topic came up. I know I wasn’t the only one who planned and a few other people here and there thought as I did.👍🏻
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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STANLIVEDEATH:
But, can somebody who NEVER worked still collect anything? That’s my question.
I would be surprised if they did.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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MIKEJW:
You're in the UK, right? When you say special pioneers get an ‘old age state pension’, is this even if they did NOT work?? Am I not understanding you correctly? Please clarify.
If this were right, that’s news to me!!!
Here in the USA, somebody absolutely needs to work in order to get Social Security and even then they have to work full-time for several decades in order to get a decent monthly amount! ..A lot of Witnesses have spotty work records with part-time jobs so they could be in the ministry. Many wouldn’t be caught dead in a full-time job. When the time comes later - they find out much to their disappointment they won’t get much from SS (like $800).
It’s too bad somebody wise (non-JW) didn’t inform them of these life facts when they were younger!
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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MIKEJW:
Yes, this is very sad and I wish the general public knew more about this.
This is my favorite topic to bash and I have commented on numerous threads about it. Why? I personally was criticized, panned, gossiped about, trashed and shunned because I had a full-time job that I refused to quit back in the day to appease these hypocrites.
Meanwhile, all the older people led cushy lives collecting THEIR pensions since THEY were once in the workforce. But, yet poverty was pushed for baby boomers(?) Luckily for me I wasn’t buying it and I’m sorry for anybody who did. (Too bad the older busybodies in the congregation who helped push poverty on younger people aren’t alive today to help JWs they grossly misled.)
I wisely held onto my job until Retirement. What difference does it make now what they thought about me back then? 🤣
And certainly what difference does it make now to poor JWs and pioneers who got invited to special gatherings back then I was excluded from? They were patted on the back and told how ‘spiritual’ they were. Well, this means nothing now and isn’t going to pay their bills.