JW GONEBAD:
Yes, I remember studying this blue Truth book in the late 1970s.
But, I’m proud to say that I am a 22+ year ‘Fader’ from the JW religion and won’t be spending my senior years in that place!
mark jones, a witness for over 30 years describes what jws call bible studies offered to the public.. .
"they (jehovah's witnesses) offer you a free home “bible” study - which turns out to be a study of a watchtower publication with the bible brought out as an afterthought to try and prop up whatever current idea the governing body are claiming is “the truth” this week.. i think it’s underhanded.. when my parents became jehovah’s witnesses and they offered people a free home “bible” study, this is what they brought to study with them:.
what, did you think they were going to study the bible with you?.
JW GONEBAD:
Yes, I remember studying this blue Truth book in the late 1970s.
But, I’m proud to say that I am a 22+ year ‘Fader’ from the JW religion and won’t be spending my senior years in that place!
mark jones, a witness for over 30 years describes what jws call bible studies offered to the public.. .
"they (jehovah's witnesses) offer you a free home “bible” study - which turns out to be a study of a watchtower publication with the bible brought out as an afterthought to try and prop up whatever current idea the governing body are claiming is “the truth” this week.. i think it’s underhanded.. when my parents became jehovah’s witnesses and they offered people a free home “bible” study, this is what they brought to study with them:.
what, did you think they were going to study the bible with you?.
VANDERHOVEN7:
Of course it’s bait n switch. I felt I certainly was a victim. And, it certainly is not a bible study but instead their literature study!
I was told everybody was equal (🤣). They aren’t. I was told they had no clergy class. Umm, they have a plain-clothes clergy and enough titles to rival any church. They even use ‘ecclesiastical privilege’ to keep their mouths shut about criminal behavior there. So, that’s an admission right there.
Maybe there’s more because I can’t think of everything. But, I certainly would never have gotten involved with the Witnesses if I knew. I suppose if they laid all their cards on the table and were honest - nobody would ever join.
why do you think many jws are hostile and rude?
or is that just my imagination?.
mark jones writes: the vast majority of jehovah’s witnesses are nice people.
PEACEFUL PETE:
You have a point…Maybe if a JW finds this place thinking it’s proJW they couldn’t help being offended because it’s disagreeing or criticizing their religion.
However, if they are questioning and have doubts and come looking for this place, it’s not going to matter. They already know in their hearts that something is wrong there.
why do you think many jws are hostile and rude?
or is that just my imagination?.
mark jones writes: the vast majority of jehovah’s witnesses are nice people.
CARLA:
I will address your last point first. Many JWs have piss poor education.
Some are homeschooled and others may not have finished high school. They are unaware of grammar and basic English and writing rules. This is why you see no paragraphs or some posting in all caps. I have seen some who don’t even capitalize words that should be. While this trend of poor grammatical skills can be seen everywhere and even in college grads, it is very pronounced among the JWs.
As far as JWs being rude, I think it has gotten worse in recent years. The women there are certainly awful.. The religion is getting more extreme and secretive and they see apostates everywhere, even under their beds. I also am of the opinion that the pandemic has made a lot of the older JWs cranky and disappointed because they expected to be in the ‘new world’ by now.
you couldn't make it up.. "tens of thousands affected by devastating earthquake in turkey.
a magnitude 7.8 earthquake struck southeastern turkey early monday, february 6, 2023. later, a magnitude 7.5 tremor hit the same region.
a number of significant aftershocks have been felt in the region.
DEBRA ANN ROMANO:
I have heard conflicting reports about what supposedly happened there on 9/11.
Some say they ‘helped’ - others say like you said that ‘they locked the doors, etc.’ Both stories cannot be right. One is true and the other must be false. Which is it?
Is there any way to know the real truth about what actually happened at Bethel on 9/11 ??? Did they help, or not? Anybody???
i just read about a disfellowshipped person who was looking for other disfellowshipped persons to socialize with.
what does the org have to say about this?.
BIAHI:
No doubt some were secretly jealous.. I sort of hard ‘Faded’ myself over two decades ago. From time to time over the years I would run into Witnesses either in stores or at the few wakes of JWs I attended.
While some said hello, I perceived others were a little resentful. (Don’t know if it’s because they don’t know how to react to somebody ‘Out’ or it’s mixed emotions because you look like you’re doing well and seemingly happy.) If they ask about me, I tell them I am retired.. Some of them were individuals who were not friendly years ago because I worked and didn’t pioneer.
Who knows what emotions or thoughts went through their heads?
i just read about a disfellowshipped person who was looking for other disfellowshipped persons to socialize with.
what does the org have to say about this?.
VANDERHOVEN & SLIMBOYFAT:
If the religion is discouraging DF’d people from communicating with each other it is because it is afraid people ‘will compare notes’ about their experience in the religion (“Suzie Q and Joe Blow had the same thing happen to them..”)
The last thing they want is for people to talk about issues and injustices they faced in the religion and elders who did what, etc. They want to compartmentalize information. This is why they want to isolate each ex-JW so that they have nobody to talk to and will not hear about other bad things that happen there!
daydreaming, fantasizing and using your imagination!.
NOWWHAT?
And to add further to this: fairly recently people on this forum and elsewhere have mentioned that people will be ‘told where they will live in paradise’.. And people are commenting on it like it was real. Please.
This is all just speculation on top of a big fantasy and I have to laugh when I read this absurdity.
daydreaming, fantasizing and using your imagination!.
NOWWHAT?
Daydreaming and fantasizing is about it. I remember when I ‘Faded’ from the religion the first thing I did was rid my head of this teaching because I felt it was a cruel trick to play on my mind.
Besides, the JW religion itself would not able to deliver this global ‘paradise’ - and some JWs and ex-JWs need to think about this.. Really. Can the religion resurrect people?
Somebody else (a supreme being, master of the universe type)..can only make such an assumption or fantasy happen.
i just read about a disfellowshipped person who was looking for other disfellowshipped persons to socialize with.
what does the org have to say about this?.
JW GONEBAD:
I remember back in the day when the JWs were ‘disfellowship happy’ as you say.. But, I was always puzzled about this.
It seemed they were knocking themselves out to bring new studies/converts in, but yet pushing other people out the door!
They got their thrills out of expelling people - and probably an even bigger one seeing some people come crawling back on their bellies to be reinstated - only to tell them they aren’t ‘ready’.
Fast forward to Now: ..happily ‘out’ former Witnesses and would-be ‘Faders’ are blocking elders’ phone numbers or in some instances telling them they are going to call the police if they bother them again.