Posts by LongHairGal

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Reading the Watchtower and Awake! is like getting a college education!

by kairos in

anybody remember hearing this?.

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is that comment in print anywhere?.

LongHairGal

VIDIOT:

I also believed it was a case of ‘sour grapes’ when some Witnesses knocked college. It’s about control and envy.

I once had an elder admit to me ‘college educated brothers are harder to counsel’.

So, they knock college for two reasons, in my opinion: (1) it’s a case of some elders not wanting rank & file more knowledgeable than they are; and (2) other people in the hall will be jealous when brother/sister so-and-so get a higher paying job than the crappy one they have (or were convinced they should settle for).. Misery loves company.

I wasn’t ‘rich’ by any means. But, because I didn’t follow the ‘pursue poverty’ ethic years ago - some JWs were bothered by this. Didn’t matter that I minded my own business. The attitudes I got ranged from shunning or imagining I ‘owed’ somebody something!! Of course, I paid no mind to any of this.

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CSA Victom Speaks Out

by LostintheFog1999 in

i happened to come across this video at the beginning of the week.

you feel so sorry for this poor woman who experienced csa and then the hardheartedness of the elders (what's new there) when she needed genuine love and help.. https://fb.watch/j1qacgxphi/.

LongHairGal

THOMAS MORE:

Yes, I have seen that Witnesses in general are indifferent and unsympathetic when you describe some bad treatment or injustice you experienced there.

I can only imagine how painful it would be for somebody who experienced CSA to have their experience disbelieved or being told to ‘pray more and get over it’!

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Cost of living crisis

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

during the height of the pandemic all elders had to report to the co anyone who was struggling with bills or who couldn’t pay the rent.

the co reported it to the branch.. i don’t know what happens next.

do the branch help at all?

LongHairGal

HOSER:

I’m sure you are and were plenty spiritual enough! .. In contrast, the elders you describe sound like hypocritical pharisees. The worst is if they have college but yet condemn it from the podium. They don’t care if they ruin some young person’s life.

I never begrudged anybody for having money or being able to afford whatever. I never coveted anything anybody had. I worked and supported myself. My problem with them was for knocking me for not pursuing poverty - when intelligent older people there did not.

I refused to follow in the footsteps of other single women there and I worked full-time…Now, many years later, these women (if they didn’t get married) are on the edge of poverty. If I had listened to the religion and the hypocritical elders I would not be retired!!! I was right all along for sticking to my guns, and there is no forgiveness for what I experienced in the JW religion.

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What Percentage of active JW's are on Anti-Depressants?

by Sea Breeze in

jw
friends

i came across an xjw post on redditt from a rn.

she states that nearly every jw she ever treated was on anti-depressants or anti-psychotic drugs:.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/f35vaa/just_about_every_jw_i_come_across_is_on/ i once read somewhere that 1 in 5 jw's were on anti-depressants, but i couldn't find any documentation.

LongHairGal

SEA BREEZE:

A few JWs friends I keep in touch with are medicated as well. A coincidence? I hardly think so.

This religion really does a number on people’s heads. I am not even a born-in and I came away with OCD. I never took meds for it but probably should have. Because I’m out so many years it’s pretty much gone away.

But, pity the PIMIs in the religion that have so much mental pressure to live up to nonsense: constantly being judged; acting like they are under siege; dealing with people crazier than they are; being targeted for money plu$ dealing with the unenviable, difficult existence if talked out of getting a career! And to add insult to injury, dealing with growing older in a system they didn’t expect to still be in!.. I’m not surprised that they are on meds!

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

LongHairGal

GORB:

Who knows? Maybe that’s a reason (or the reason) he’s no longer a GB member.

A month later and it’s still a mystery.

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Cost of living crisis

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

during the height of the pandemic all elders had to report to the co anyone who was struggling with bills or who couldn’t pay the rent.

the co reported it to the branch.. i don’t know what happens next.

do the branch help at all?

LongHairGal

HOSER:

That was very nice of you to offer those gift cards to the elders ‘to distribute anonymously to needy members of the congregation’.

But they refused to take them saying ‘the congregation doesn’t do that’. However, I remember from time to time people were privately approached with an envelope asking for money for whoever.. So, they don’t have a problem asking.. Giving would be another thing entirely.

What I gather is they don’t want to be in the position of figuring out just who is entitled to this gift;.. and/or what happens when people who did not get this gift go to the elders and say ‘hey, where is mine. I’m needy too’, etc.

So, the elders would be in a funny position. I don’t want to defend them but this situation would inadvertently start trouble and somebody would come down on them hard, in my opinion.

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Elder asks my disfellowshipped cousin to leave house while grieving for his grandmother

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

fourteen years ago i started a thread on how horrible my disfellowshipped cousin was treated after his mom passed away and the terrible actions on the part of the elders at the funeral home.. 67. horrible conduct by congregation elders at my cousin's funeral.............. well, here we are 14 years later, and things haven't changed!.

my aunt ( who is my disfellowshipped cousin's grandmother ) was placed in home hospice care.

the nurse told her daughters ( who are jehovah's witnesses and live with their mother ) that their mom probably has 2 days left to live and that they should call the immediate family.. my disfellowshipped cousin and his sister show up in the early morning.

LongHairGal

RULES AND REGULATIONS:

This is outrageous and these elders have clearly overstepped their boundaries!

HIDDLESWIFE:

You mean to say that a ‘sister’ living home (apparently not guilty of any serious sin) but who had a job that interfered with meeting attendance - warranted busybody elders to go to her home and ask her family to throw her out???

Society in general has to be made aware that the Witness religion has done things like this! In my case, I also had a full-time job I was knocked for!.. Thank God, I didn’t come from a Witness home. If I did maybe I could have expected the same thing! Imagine the audacity of these rats?

I am happy for this woman as she got out of this trap of a religion! Me too! The sickest irony of the situation is if we were both active in the religion now, we would be targeted to give money for people there who never wanted to work.👎 ..This is the biggest reason I’m happy I’m Out.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

LongHairGal

DESIROUS OF CHANGE:

I got the same point also! Maybe as somebody who was already ‘in the world’ he was more in touch with reality in this regard.

I also remember some of the older and wiser Witnesses back in the day who lived well. While they believed the End would come at some point, they felt that you had to prepare. You did not see these people pursuing poverty or counting on something external to ‘save’ them.

That’s why I made sure I held onto my job until retirement and didn’t concern myself what anybody there thought.. These older affluent JWs have already gone to the grave!.. Any of the younger self-righteous Baby Boomers who did pursue poverty then are having a problem right now as we speak!!

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Cost of living crisis

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

during the height of the pandemic all elders had to report to the co anyone who was struggling with bills or who couldn’t pay the rent.

the co reported it to the branch.. i don’t know what happens next.

do the branch help at all?

LongHairGal

EXBETHELITE NOW PIMA & ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:

Last I heard (unless something has changed 🙄) the JW religion has no social programs whatsoever to help the hungry, poor and needy. People have to look to ‘Babylon the Great’s’ churches and other government programs for help.

ExBethelite: here in the USA as well as the UK, prices of food, rents, etc. are going through the roof. There are needy people everywhere.

People blame the economy (as well they should) however…the Witness religion knocks college/careers and makes poverty out to be a virtue.. So when times get bad, who ends up the worst off? You guessed it.

So, in those few instances (the pandemic and now) when they asked around who is having a problem - just who was supposed to do anything about it?? We all know the already financially overburdened rank & file are the ones hit up for money.

The JW religion is now having its own ‘perfect storm’. All the underemployed people -pioneers as well as others there who deliberately never got decent jobs and lived on the edge waiting for the ‘new system’ as well as others who lost jobs because of the economy - are all gathered in the same place! Very undesirable!

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Does becoming (or remaining) one of Jehovah's Witnesses result in Poverty? Pew Research results differ from Watchtower claims.

by Balaamsass2 in

"raised in the truth" during the 50s, 60s,and 70s i repeatedly read and heard from the platform how reading the magazines weekly "was the equivalent of a college education" and how many had turned their family economic situation around by being "trustworthy" and giving up expensive bad habits most "worldly people" had.

sounded good.. what is the reality?

how does avoiding higher education, and then spending up to 20 hours a week getting ready for, commuting, and then participating in meetings and field service affect family finances?.

LongHairGal

BALAAMSASS2:

Yes, it does appear they encourage ‘child-like magical thinking’ and ‘big Daddy in the sky will provide’. They seem to be threatened by the brain that has logic and planning.

Of course, they hope nobody notices the affluent ones in the congregation and those already collecting pensions!.. But I sure as hell noticed it. The poverty pushed for me and other young people there back in the late ‘70s certainly wasn’t for these others!.. But, my “worldly” upbringing saved me and I rejected this absurdity.

As far as “adulting” (I have seen this term): when I was growing up in a suburban Catholic home - when I was in seventh and eighth grade the mentality of growing to adulthood started to be stressed. So, it was a ‘given’ that I had to use logic and think for myself.

I’m very sorry about your first wife’s situation. I seem to remember years back that a JW would not want to be seen this way because it would ‘bring reproach on Jehovah’. But, I guess things have changed for the worse in the JW religion and now panhandling is acceptable.. Again, I am Glad I am no longer around any of this. 👎