canada has universal healthcare.
the consensus is that america never will.
can anyone explain why, please?
LV101:
Thanks for your informative post.
Even though I was aware of why medical students overseas want to practice here in the USA, I wasn’t fully aware of what states with no state taxes have to deal with: which is that they end up paying exorbitant amounts of money for everything else!👎
from reddit exjw.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/143556c/co_meeting_with_elders_gb_seems_desperate/.
pretty much what other appointed men have been telling me.
JOEY JOJO:
I’m glad they are afraid of scaring more people off. They have lost so many people: many ‘woke up’ in the past several years plus many older JWs are passing away.
When the Baby Boomer JWs are gone this religion is pretty much done and I’m sure a lot of people know this.. When they go, a significant amount of relatives who are hanging on (just to please JW parents) are going to stop going.. Guaranteed that as soon as the funeral service is over a majority of these people will never again set foot in a kingdom hall.
So, I imagine the religion will ‘tread softly’ with this Zoom thing - unless they want to accelerate the loss of more JWs.. I do think there’s a possibility that some fed-up people will tear off the band-aid and start their ‘Fade’.
canada has universal healthcare.
the consensus is that america never will.
can anyone explain why, please?
JHINE:
Yeah, that all sounds very noble.🙄
Why don’t you and your country accept all the never-ending immigrants (both legal and illegal) on the planet streaming in and provide them with healthcare and whatever?
from reddit exjw.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/143556c/co_meeting_with_elders_gb_seems_desperate/.
pretty much what other appointed men have been telling me.
VIDIOT:
Very good point.
I missed some meetings back in the day and my hall was ten minutes from my home! There’s no way I would have ever driven forty-five minutes+ one way to any hall. It’s just as well I’m Out.
At some point when they sell off even more halls, this problem will be exacerbated for whatever remaining Witnesses are left.
one of my close pimo relatives showed me the article and spoke about today's study.
she was disturbed concerning the points/statements within it, such as: "so, the more we get to know those in the congregation, the more likely we are to see more of their flaws.
sadly, some have allowed the imperfections of others to stumble them.
HIDDLESWIFE:
It was always my opinion that the FAULTY teachings of the religion are largely responsible for people’s bad behavior in the JWs.. The excuse of ‘Imperfection’ is just a diversion to keep anybody from examining what’s really going on.
Now you got angry people there. Angry that the End hasn’t come; angry they are needy, etc.
The religion isn’t really interested in the thousands of Witnesses who pursued poverty in the ministry instead of getting decent jobs. Now there’s trouble in the congregations with a chaotic mix of faulty teachings plus needy people who didn’t prepare for retirement. All the chickens have come home to roost. Very bad.
Anybody there who is a responsible person would have to deal with all sorts of bad attitudes - in addition to people who are a little ‘off’ mentally… I’m Glad I got Out ages ago because I could never stand being around the culture and mentality of the religion and what it has become.👎
sig other is half assed still in, one family member is in... its been years... wondering if i should just let it be or just call up hq and say i resign... i will be pissed if they announce shit at the kh, though i dont even remember the last one i went to... lol.
for me, its none of anyone elses business... thoughts?.
DOZY:
It is interesting what you wrote about attending that funeral and only recognizing fewer than 25% of the people there because people either moved, died, etc.. But, I have to comment about that rambling letter from the guy who attended fifteen+ years earlier.. You decided why bother making an announcement about somebody who nobody basically knew?
The same mentality could also be applicable to JWs’ shunning routine when in public places and SO many years have passed that the shunned person doesn’t even recognize them. (Maybe they should go up and reintroduce themselves to the shunned person.🤣) The shunning routine doesn’t work without an audience that knows what’s going on. Witnesses are ridiculous people and don’t realize how unimportant they are and that shunned person in the store (who moved on with their life) doesn’t even know who the hell that person is who’s staring at them. (I experienced this and figured it out later on.)
But, getting back to the main topic, I think most wouldn’t be bothered with any letter.
what do you think the main reason is?
$$$$?.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/13wm5cf/why_are_they_still_using_zoom/ .
ROAD TO NOWHERE:
When I read your post, I got angry for several reasons.
Obviously you are donating because your family expects this… Please tell me you know enough (and are not ‘scared’) to speak up and contact the bank or whoever about this mistake! 🙄
what do you think the main reason is?
$$$$?.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/13wm5cf/why_are_they_still_using_zoom/ .
HIDDLESWIFE:
Sorry I wasn’t clear. What I was referring to was being privately approached by a brother asking politely if you would donate $ because a certain person in the congregation has fallen on ‘hard times’. (I wasn’t referring to them asking for $ for the religion itself.)
This happened to me years ago when I was in. They look for ‘responsible’ types who seem good natured. But, I’m talking about back then - when things were relatively good.. It was a once in a while thing.. The economy hadn’t yet collapsed and all these pioneers living on the edge hadn’t yet reached retirement age with no preparation! Can you imagine things now?
This is why I’m Glad to no longer be in the JW religion. The people who knocked me for working certainly wouldn’t be supporting me. But, yet I could guarantee some fool would be making their way over to me to ask for money for somebody who never wanted to work..I would end up telling somebody off!
from what i can see no such thing is happening.i became a jw in 1960 and remained for about 30 years and the numbers of active jw`s today in the world are far greater than they were back then.. and here in australia the numbers are much higher than they were back then .. so i don`t see that their in decline or have any worries about losing support .. don`t the numbers speak for themselves ?.
is it just wishful thinking on your part ?.
MAGNUM:
Yes, I remember those days when the ‘Truth’ sounded feasible.
I also remember some of those ex-hippie ‘deep thinker’ types. But, I have to say they were the most judgmental people in the world! So, I never really liked them. Probably some of them might still be around now hanging on as the Boomer generation. Sorry it all went bad. Sorry about the broken dreams.
I stayed longer than I should have because I was ever-optimistic that things would get better in the congregation. But, I should have left a decade sooner than I did. The 1995 thing was the last straw. It was Over. I’m just Grateful I kept my full-time job.. What a mistake it would have been if I had let anybody in that religion (with their judgmentalism and condemnation) influence me about my life!
what do you think the main reason is?
$$$$?.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/13wm5cf/why_are_they_still_using_zoom/ .
HIDDLESWIFE:
I agree that in-person meetings won't necessarily make more JWs put money in the box if they don’t want to. Just like it won’t make them donate online.
But, there are certain people in congregations who ask for $ privately in person and a few are accustomed to getting ‘green handshakes’. The Covid pandemic shutdown must have put a cramp in these JWs’ style and they must have had to get very ‘creative’ about getting money.. Also, what about brothers going around privately with an envelope approaching certain people asking for money? You can only do these things in person.. (Of course, some nervy idiot can call on the phone and ask (and I would press End Call).
Point is that being in person has its benefits for some not to mention more intrusive ‘control’ over what’s left of the tired-out rank & file JWs.
