Posts by LongHairGal

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At what point, does one become apostate to the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Vanderhoven7 in

at what point does a jehovah’s witness cease to be a jehovah’s witness?

what if a witness doesn't believe some of the official teachings of the governing body but remains silent on these subjects to avoid being disfellowshipped?

is he or she an apostate to the faith?

LongHairGal

At what point? It seems to me that any questioning or disagreement with anything the JW religion currently teaches is ‘apostasy’ in somebody’s eyes there. The key here is if you go around blabbing it.

But, with the current paranoia there, if you are ‘faded’ and tell somebody there you don’t want to go back because of this, that or the other thing - they could view you as *gasp* an apostate or at the very least ‘not upbuilding’.

I might be facing a situation like this (I don’t really care because I’ve been Out for so long). I have gotten to the point that I can no longer humor JWs and will be honest and voice my disagreement. Whereas in the past I might have kept quiet.. They cannot accept this.. If I finally lose these long time ‘friends’, so be it. At this point, I am not bothering to beat the dead horse.

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Did anyone really enjoy assemblies?

by SydBarrett in

jw
friends

the twickenham post made me think of this.

i have a few jw family members on facebook and being summertime, their pics of the convention have shown up in my fb feed.

along with their comments about "i wished it would never end" or "what a glorious weekend".

LongHairGal

SYD BARRETT:

I didn’t mean to hijack your thread and will get it on track but I will answer FISHERMAN:

You have raised a straw man argument as I am not talking about ‘the resurrection and eternal life’.

I am talking about people who were told to ‘avoid careers and do full time ministry and not worry about retirement as they were told they’d never see old age in this system of things’. I know this personally as I had it said to me - but thankfully never listened.. Meanwhile those who said it are long dead after living a cushy life!

Many older JWs could have made other preparations and still stayed in the Witness religion only they’d be in better shape now while waiting for their ‘paradise’.

Getting back to the OP, I agree with most everybody about how they feel about assemblies.

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Did anyone really enjoy assemblies?

by SydBarrett in

jw
friends

the twickenham post made me think of this.

i have a few jw family members on facebook and being summertime, their pics of the convention have shown up in my fb feed.

along with their comments about "i wished it would never end" or "what a glorious weekend".

LongHairGal

Maybe in the early days I might have enjoyed one or two assemblies. But, after that I can’t say that I did.. In reality the assemblies were exhausting and since I worked full-time I was especially tired.

I also felt they were a physical endurance test - to be sitting in stadium seats for three days and that’s assuming it’s an indoor or covered venue. Otherwise, it could be quite miserable and I remember a few that were. Boy am I glad this is all in the past!

From what I’ve read about this year’s assembly it sounds like it was meant to make disappointed JWs feel better about ‘Armageddon’ not having come yet.. I mean how do you make people who sacrificed for years (needlessly) and who reached an old age you told them they’d ‘never see in this system’ feel better?? I don’t think you can.

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Hot sht hospital liaison

by road to nowhere in

wife in.

bro high opinion of self stopped.

he is part of hlc, but was alone.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

And by word of mouth your name will be leaked? Just why is this? It’s because Witnesses can’t keep their mouths shut.

If you don’t talk about your business to everybody maybe it could remain private that somebody is admitted to the hospital for something. The exception would be if some JW works in the hospital OR if extended family are JWs then it would get out.

I’m not saying that this has anything to do with the OP.. But, I think most of the self-inflicted problems in the hall are caused by Witnesses who just don’t know how to shut up about their own damn business!

I could never stand this about the religion. This constant gossiping (even about themselves) is a sickness..and I can’t even feel sorry for them.

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Seven Reasons Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are Leaving Their Religion.

by Hairyhegoat in

these are good comments to consider enjoy!.

jehovah's witnesses who leave their religion, do so for many different reasons.

here are seven.. watchtower prophecies and dates for armageddon have failed repeatedly.

LongHairGal

Thanks for resurrecting this 13 year old thread.

It’s nice to see the comments of old posters including my own. I still stand by what I wrote about not tolerating intrusiveness and people making divine claims, etc.

But now, thirteen years later things are worse in the JW religion since much has happened. The religion has changed so that it is almost unrecognizable. Witnesses have grown older and many have reached retirement age unprepared. They were told ‘Armageddon’ would be here and they wouldn’t need to bother. Too many have spent several decades in the ministry instead of holding down a decent job and putting away for retirement like I did. Needless to say, the religion has no charitable social programs.

Back when I was active in the Witness religion I was surrounded by suburban middle class people. There was no mentality of desperation in the air.. NOW, there’s a disappointed attitude because the JWs expected the recent coronavirus pandemic would be ‘the End’.. They are upset they have to continue on - having reached an old age they never expected to see.. They had hoped to be in the ‘new system’ by now growing younger.. Adding insult to injury, they are financially unprepared!!!.. This is disastrous. It is for these reasons I am GLAD I left the religion years ago. I have no desire to be around this.

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Jehovah’s Witnesses Open Historic Museum in Edo

by Bangalore in

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friends

jehovah’s witnesses open historic museum in edo .. https://punchng.com/jehovahs-witnesses-open-historic-museum-in-edo/.

LongHairGal

RILEY:

Yes. The JW religion has absolutely no social programs.

Meanwhile, they have a large enough number of needy members who followed the religion’s dictates not to get college/careers - and consequently have reached their retirement age totally unprepared!.. Instead, the religion tells their members to seek out ‘worldly’ charities. They don’t give any assistance whatsoever.

But, yet they are building museums - to charge admission no doubt.

SEA BREEZE:

Any persons stupid enough to shun their own children on the say so of a religion don’t deserve any pity from me.

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Watchtower And Taxes

by Bangalore in

*** w94 11/15 pp.

"in this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.

" so said 18th-century american statesman and inventor benjamin franklin.

LongHairGal

EASY PROMPT:

Yes, I totally agree with your post (too bad if it offends anybody). The truth hurts. The whole arrangement there in addition to not paying taxes, are living on taxpayers’ contributions in congregations (yes, people they knock and accuse of being materialistic).

The JW religion knocks hardworking people with secular jobs. I was shunned for working full time but I’m Thankful I never listened or I wouldn’t have retired.

DREARYWEATHER:

Sorry to break it to you or hurt your feelings but when you were at bethel you were indirectly living off taxpayers income!.. That’s why it was offensive to me when I would hear about bethelites making derogatory remarks about working people. Who the hell did they think was supporting them but working JWs’ contributions!?

When 9/11 happened it was rumored some bethelite(s) were supposed to have made terrible remarks about JWs who died in the collapse.

Regardless of how hard you worked at bethel.. the fact of the matter is that place owes its existence to hard working, tax paying members’ contributions!

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JWs & Guilt Trips

by skeeter1 in

the watchtower is a manipulator.

one of the tools they use is guilt, and they use it via the "guilt trip.

" just so we are clear, a guilt trip is:.

LongHairGal

SKEETER1:

Yes, the JW religion is a master of guilt trips.

How else could they have persuaded so many people to give up decent jobs/careers to do unpaid full-time ministry for decades? This was a combination of guilt-tripping and fear mongering about Armageddon. So many Witnesses reached retirement age they never expected to see - and they are unprepared.

I cringe when I think of what could have happened if I listened.. Yes, I felt guilty at the time but the guilt was overridden by my practical fear and also seeing older JWs collecting their pensions! Thank God I wasn’t raised a JW!

They also used guilt tripping in other ways in the congregation - trying to get sisters to do favors for Users. Thankfully, I had a full-time job and wasn’t available. I would have refused anyway. Besides, they can never be forgiven for all the lies and deception!👎

I’m certainly immune now to anybody’s guilt trips.

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Is WT Using ATTENDANTS At The Conventions To Be: "TOY COPS"

by HiddlesWife in

i have heard from a few ppimis and several pimos that the attendants who are stationedly-assigned to the front entrances of the borgvenues (cahs and other arenas) have been checking to see if any persons (members and non-member visitors) have badges.

on the other hand, if these persons don't have one, this is what i was told that these dubs do this: corral around the non-badge-wearing individual and interrogate he/she/them plus questioning them, "why are you here?!".

also, even if that person or persons have an invitation plus showed it to these dubs, these toy cops still do that procedure.

LongHairGal

ROAD TO NOWHERE:

I don’t think that guy was a ‘masher’.

It was like when somebody is followed around a store because they might be a potential shoplifter.🙄 They are not even there to assist you.. You’re being watched to see what you ‘might’ do. It’s pathetic and I laugh about it now.

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Treatment of Those Trying For Reinstatement

by Vanderhoven7 in

what happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.

mark jones writes:.

if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.

LongHairGal

FEDUPJW:

I wonder if the arrogant elder you mentioned is still around. If so, I wonder what he thinks about the JW religion now?

So many people of all ages have left. They can’t even get younger people to stay.. I remember years ago when someone was disfellowshipped and would try to come back and be reinstated - only to be rejected and told they had to wait.

I wonder if they are so eager to reject people now? It seems these elders were on their high horse back then and imagined they could be ‘choosy’. If they really didn’t like somebody they would knock them down. Now, people are leaving left and right.

Do they imagine it’s like the old days where they expected somebody to crawl on their belly begging to be ‘allowed’ to come back? 🤣🤣