Posts by LongHairGal

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Reddit thread on convention video urging cutting off contact with Faders

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i just read this.

don’t know if anybody here has seen the video.. the intended result of this is to obviously scare ‘faders’ out of the shadows.

now, they are being threatened with loss of association with their loved ones and friends.

LongHairGal

TONUS:

I have to assume your mom is a widow and that she has never worked. She sounds helpless -but much of the helplessness she has is learned.

Your name doesn’t indicate gender so I assume you’re a man. You are a good son to do what you did for her.

The very beliefs and attitudes of Jehovah’s Witnesses turn many of them into very accomplished ‘Takers’.. Of course, some are worse than others.. In the world, many non-Witness women are widowed or otherwise without a man. They usually get a job. Your mom didn’t… The idiot religion is responsible for this attitude.

I was not born-in but came in a young working woman. So, I was APPALLED at this pervasive mentality in the Witness religion. You never saw ME giving anything to deadbeat pioneers. Nope! Not after how I was criticized for working. What kind of chump would I be??🤣

And I never accepted the underlying ‘hint’ in the Witness religion that people could be in full-time ministry and EXPECT other people in the congregation to support them or give them things!! What delusions. (Of course, they never reveal this when you are ‘studying’.)

..Didn’t care if the Witnesses hated me because of this and I DO believe some did… Imagine me being there now with all those who reached retirement age unprepared ??? 😮 I will stay a ‘Fader’.

I don’t blame you for being glad all those Users, Takers and manipulators avoid you.

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How many times did they say armagedon was coming?

by Witness 007 in

1914 1918 1925 1940s 1975 1914 generation what did i miss?.

LongHairGal

WITNESS 007:

I came in after 1975. They mentioned Armageddon a lot.

I guess I was a bad Witness because I wasn’t scared shitless and quaking in my boots.. I didn’t quit my full-time job to do housecleaning and pioneering.🙄

The way I figured it: mankind was bad and Armageddon would come some day. Back when I was a ‘believer’ I hoped I would be saved. But, since you could never do enough in the Jehovah’s Witness religion - there was always doubt. (I believe this is a tactic of theirs.) But, I continued as I was.

Then the 1995 Generation teaching came out and that was it for me.. It took a while but I started my ‘Fade’ the 9/11 timeframe. You had to see all the scared inactives coming back because they were afraid of Armageddon.. Meanwhile, I was headed for the door. I just didn’t believe the JW religion anymore.

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Reddit thread on convention video urging cutting off contact with Faders

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

i just read this.

don’t know if anybody here has seen the video.. the intended result of this is to obviously scare ‘faders’ out of the shadows.

now, they are being threatened with loss of association with their loved ones and friends.

LongHairGal

TONUSOH:

I’m sorry for the pain these Witnesses can cause to people who left the religion…No wonder you’re thrilled to not have them associating with you.

As an earlier poster LITTLEROCKGUY pointed out: they carry a ‘bad’ energy about them.. Even though I wasn’t raised JW and have no relatives there, I don’t want this energy in my life - which is why it’s no real loss that my Witness ‘friends’ are finally gone.👍🏻

I pinpointed this unwanted energy early in my ‘Fade’ when I stopped going to meetings and realized how good it felt to be away from the JW religion! ..This was not a coincidence.

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Guess who's coming to dinner.. Elder and nosey wife!

by Witness 007 in

so my wife ran into a elder i new 10 years ago and invites him to dinner!!!!!

he arives and gives me a bear hug...love bombing!

he started talking about armegedon is really very very close.

LongHairGal

WITNESS 007:

I guess your wife (and you) must still feel close to some of these Witnesses at some level and you got ‘put on the spot’.

I couldn’t be bothered with any of this pretense. I wouldn’t want JWs in my life anymore - and certainly not in my home. They weren’t my friends. My home is a place of rest and peace and they wouldn’t be welcome there.

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Where r we now?

by sparrowdown in

jw
friends

post covid, post trump, post cedarsgate, post tony morris, post arc… where r we now?.

LongHairGal

SPARROWDOWN:

Welcome back. I remember you as a poster from years ago!

All those things you said have occurred and still here we are. The ‘system’ still here. We have all gotten older.. I am gladly long ‘Faded’ from the Jehovah’s Witnesses and over ten years retired from my secular job that I am Glad I held onto!

You have probably observed the Witness religion has changed and barely resembles the religion you might recall.. Many old timers feel betrayed.. As FEDUPJW quoted: “If JWs had been then what they are now.. I never would have become one”.

Of course, the people who were the most heavily invested are the worst off today in 2025.. Too many JWs have reached retirement age unprepared!

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Change in WT Stance on Retirement? A qualified answer?

by blondie in

jw
friends

i was reading the march 2025 wt today, and i notice this: "march 2025 p. 29 jehovah’s hand is not too short p.29-31 (retirement, but qualified statement) (notice , it is not wrong, but, in the end we must rely on their god.

retirement is alluded to as "making the quest for material things the focus of our life.

" are we confident that their god will provide (why have retirement then?

LongHairGal

BLONDIE:

I’m sure that elder didn’t like hearing that.

Nobody wants to be targeted to give charity to needy people, especially people needy because they did it to themselves. I wouldn’t tolerate them coming near me.

But he as an enforcer of the Witness religion’s teachings NOT to get college or career is on the hook to help these other JWs, in my opinion... In fact, somebody like him would have been instrumental in getting ME shunned back in the day because of my full-time job!!!

I DO feel that the religion’s efforts now to get back ‘faders’ and ‘disfellowshipped’ is partly related to their concerns about TOO many needy in their ranks who were conned into not preparing for retirement! It’s too obvious to ignore.. Maybe in the past when the congregations were jumping with people this was less obvious. Also, all the ‘boomer’ pioneers hadn’t reached retirement age yet and there was still ‘hope’ the ‘nu system’ would arrive!

Who knows if maybe the JW religion is afraid that if there were practically no other people in congregations - that there could be a scenario of all these needy and desperate people coming and banging on their door and otherwise making their plight public!?

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Change in WT Stance on Retirement? A qualified answer?

by blondie in

jw
friends

i was reading the march 2025 wt today, and i notice this: "march 2025 p. 29 jehovah’s hand is not too short p.29-31 (retirement, but qualified statement) (notice , it is not wrong, but, in the end we must rely on their god.

retirement is alluded to as "making the quest for material things the focus of our life.

" are we confident that their god will provide (why have retirement then?

LongHairGal

WING COMMANDER:

I didn’t know all the details of the JW religion’s retirement community (for the higher ups). But, I certainly can’t say I am surprised. They have foolish people enabling them while they live like kings.👎

It is too bad about the millions of rank & file Witnesses everywhere who were conned and duped into not working decent jobs and careers and not providing for any sort of retirement for themselves. Even though this is a shame, I personally feel no pity for them because they all knocked me years ago for working.. What am I expected to say??

These broke JWs don’t seem to want to talk about how the religion misled them and should be helping them but isn’t… All in all, I am glad to no longer be around any of this.. I wouldn’t set foot in a KH again.

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"Love bombing" when your new or baptised.

by Witness 007 in

so i studied with a sister and her husband and there first complaint was all the love stopped after they got baptised...well it's called love bombing all cults do this till your in then they move on..

LongHairGal

WITNESS 007:

I remember that ‘love bombing’ phase and how I felt when it ended.

It was a disillusionment and an eye-opener. I was a little naive when I came into the Jehovah’s Witness religion. I was raised Roman Catholic.. I guess I wanted to believe the JWs were a brotherhood and one big happy family.. Well, I came to see they are neither..They are not your family and certainly do not have your ‘back’.

They are a collection of strangers. You may like some of them - and some may like you. But, the friendships are conditional. Like all people they care only about themselves and their families. Other people are an afterthought.

A single woman like myself was not thought of at all unless nervy individuals and Users were looking favors.. My answer was No. I wouldn’t do favors like other young single women since I was viewed badly over my full-time job. The only other time I was ‘thought of’ was if there was a criticism of some sort - mainly over my clothing because I have a decent shape.

Looking back I really overstayed my welcome in that place. I am just Thankful I kept my job and never followed the crowd there over the ‘pioneering’ thing. I would be so screwed today it wouldn’t be funny!.. The older hypocrites/critics aren’t even around today to help anybody duped into following the ‘no career’ ethic. These critics went to their graves after living a cushy life.

So, much for the bogus brotherhood. It was a life lesson learned.

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Change in WT Stance on Retirement? A qualified answer?

by blondie in

jw
friends

i was reading the march 2025 wt today, and i notice this: "march 2025 p. 29 jehovah’s hand is not too short p.29-31 (retirement, but qualified statement) (notice , it is not wrong, but, in the end we must rely on their god.

retirement is alluded to as "making the quest for material things the focus of our life.

" are we confident that their god will provide (why have retirement then?

LongHairGal

BLONDIE:

It makes me ill to read the JW religion’s nonsense.. Even the Bible promotes saving and uses the example of the lowly ant in Proverbs.

Also, how could someone give charity unless they had a store saved up? The Witness religion ignores Bible wisdom with its teachings against working and saving.. Quite frankly, they are full of it in my book with their saying that “Jehovah will provide” as though someone could literally be a bum and pennies will fall from heaven.. Too many Witnesses took this bad advice.

As for the religion giving the impression they are changing their stand? It’s superficial so the world thinks they aren’t what they really are.

But I know better as somebody who was treated like I had a disease years ago because I had a full-time job. Today I am grateful it worked out the way it did.. I wouldn’t trade places with pioneers who scoffed at me back then and who got invited to special dinners and told how ‘spiritual’ they were. 🙄 That is worthless and not paying the bills in 2025!

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Verdict on the 2025 convention

by gavindlt in

final thoughts after 15 hours of the 2025 assembly.

after dedicating 15 hours to the 2025 assembly, i walked away with a heavy sense of spiritual emptiness.

the only part that managed to stir anything within me was a single video on day one titled “what does jesus see in you?”—a piece with sentimental appeal, but still surface-level at best.. .

LongHairGal

DAGNEY:

I also have a few good memories from years ago of going out to eat with some people after the assembly/convention.

I also agree that I certainly didn’t remember all that was said at the conventions.. Only the highlights of a particular talk were remembered.

But, what I find particularly false about what is being said lately is that ‘Faders’ are supposedly out to get everybody and drag JWs out of their precious religion!.. They must be getting desperate to say things like this.. It simply is not true.. When I did my ‘Fade’ years ago I was only interested in getting myself Out of this toxic religion that wasted my time.

I had No interest in what any other Witness there did or did not do.