Posts by blindersoff

i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.

blindersoff

Hi Saki,

I posted to this thread about the context of Mt 25:45. I was hoping to get your observation about why you feel this scripture shows Jesus making this 'appointment' in 1918 when the rest of the passage talks of his coming as executioner and rewarder. (which hasn't happened yet.) It says nothing about his making this 'appointment' in advance of his coming. I think this is the single most important teaching of WTS, because based on it you are supposed to accept anything they say.

Regards,

B

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A bit reluctant

by saki2fifty in

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i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.

even a bit nervous... .

i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.

blindersoff

Ah! The FDS. Please consider the context carefully and let me know what you think.

Thanks

The F&D Slave doctrine is what gives the WT it's control.(My comments in blue)

*** it-1 p. 805 Faithful and Discreet Slave ***

When answering the apostles? question concerning his future presence and the conclusion of the existing system of things, Jesus Christ included a parable, or illustration, dealing with a "faithful and discreet slave" and an "evil slave.

Does a parable or illustration require a fulfillment?

Even if it does, what about the timing?

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w87 8/1 p. 16 Christ?s Active Leadership Today ***

5 The modern history of God?s people shows that this time of accounting came in 1918-19

They were collectively found to be the "slave

Note this application of Jesus' coming:

"*** w97 3/1 p. 13 Are You Ready for Jehovah?s Day? ***

On this account you too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that you do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming." (Matthew 24:40-44;-----) Not knowing the exact time of Jesus? coming to execute God?s vengeance tends to keep us vigilant and gives us daily opportunity to prove that we serve Jehovah with unselfish motives.

Then the context of the illustration:

(Matthew 24:36-47) 36 "Concerning that day and hour (Jesus? coming to execute God?s vengeance) nobody knows, ------------------42 Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU do not know on what day YOUR Lord is coming.(Jesus? coming to execute God?s vengeance) -----------------------44 On this account YOU too prove yourselves ready, because at an hour that YOU do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming. (Jesus? coming to execute God?s vengeance) 45 "Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. 47 Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings.

How can verse 46 step out of the context & apply to 1914 / 1919

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Yet another newbie here!!!

by jason bourne in

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i just wanted to introduce myself and let you know that you are not alone...i thank jah that i found this site....i look forward to getting to talk to you all....

blindersoff

Howdy

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Is becoming a witness the right thing for me

by marketman in

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i've been struggling for quite some time now about continuing my exploration of the jehovah witness faith.

i am a "cradle" catholic and have been very involved with the church.

i started to become disillusioned several months back with all of the tradition, habits, and teachings of the church--which i began to seriously doubt.

blindersoff

Welcome

Isn't there some truth to what JWs state

I would answer 'yes'. But is this 'some truth' a good enough reason to join something that you cannot simply walk away from should you decide later that you don't accept all the rules , regulations and decisions that have no scriptural backing. I have experienced it & I have seen it. Best' friends' will drop each other like hot potatoes . And if you get kicked out, then, to get back in (if you want to), you have to meet much higher organizational standards than those who remain in.

Almost every Sunday , the WT study will restate the need to submit to the authority of 'God's organization'. This comes from what I think is the main doctrine of JW's---that they are the Faithful & Discreet Slave of Mt 24, that Jesus has appointed them to feed the congregations of JW's food at the proper time & it should be accepted without question. There is never any proof of this claim---just the stating of it over & over. There is a ton of information on the internet that refutes this claim as well as others.

Please do your homework and don't accept ANYTHING told you as scriptural unless it can be proven.

The usual procedure is to show you a few basic things from the Bible, then when they have your confidence, they expect you to believe all sorts of things simply because they say so. For example,the heavenly resurrection occurred in 1918. Scripture, please?

I have been there, done that (over 40 yrs). Don't accept superficial answers.

Do your homework.

I have learned that being a Christian is more about how you treat people that a lot of academic head knowledge about teachings. I feel that JW's fall very short in this area. And it can't be accurately judged because they are nice to you when you go to the meeting. Their idea of helping the elderly, for example, is to get them a telephone tie in to listen to the meetings. Or maybe helping them get to the KH. One case in point----NOT ONE had the time go sit with a sister in the hospital Wednesday for a few hours even after a request was put in to the presiding elder to give the relatives a break. But that same day, several cars were parked at the KH while they went to talk to strangers in empty houses in the 'service' because they send this time in to Brooklyn.

I could go on and on, but if you look in the BEST OF section of this board , you will find these things covered in a much better way than I can say them. But I would be happy to expound on anything I said here if you need me to.

Did I mention?

Do your homework.

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Update! The pressure is rising, Elders on my trail!

by drew sagan in

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here is yet another update on what is going on in my world.

the elder i talked to a while back just couldn't let it be and now want's to have another discussion.

he now wants to meet with with another elder from the hall.

blindersoff

If the elder wants to talk to you again, why not one on one? When Paul straightened Peter out, he didn't say he had any help.

In one instance I am aware of, the elders were to inform a sister of something contained in a letter from another cong. They specifically said they would not answer any questions, yet FOUR elders met with her to read the brief letter.

B

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PO said automation and declining contributions reason for Bethel layoffs

by truthseeker in

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last week at the meeting, the po, who has very close connections to bethel, said that he never thought he would see the day that bethelites were being sent home.

he said that the biggest two reasons he thought bethel were cutting back, was automation and a massive decline in contributions.

looks like you're right metatron about the contribution aspect being their achilles heel.

blindersoff

The last CO visit most congregations got in the US was supplied with a video that basically put on the pressure to donate more.

Drew. I caught the same drift. What other reason could there be for taking his precious time following the BS to show KH building in poorer countries. Then after we saw how hard they were working making bricks, etc, we should be so glad to contribute in the only way we can --With $$$$$$$$

B

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Has being a Jehova's witness totally shattered your faith?

by Silvia Plath in

just because the watchtower society is wrong doesn't mean that there is no god, nor does it mean there is a god.

it would interesting to now how former members have adjusted thier cosmology, or whether they are now atheists and why.

i personally see religion as a more personal matter, rather than belonging to an organization.

blindersoff

schne_belly----------My thoughts exactly

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Bought 11 old WT books

by blindersoff in

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went yard saling this morn & found 11 1950's -early '60s books.

even a green bible.

blindersoff

Went yard saling this morn & found 11 1950's -early '60s books. Even a green Bible. Oh, the memories.

B

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Demonstrations against the WTBTS - Get on with your life.

by breeze in

you guys that are so obsessed with the wtbts and their future.

just stop it and get onto doing something positive with your life.

give back sometheng to your community and the world we are in for now.

blindersoff

Just stop it and get onto doing something positive with your life.

Breeze----Do I assume you are doing nothing positive with your life becuse you have spent some of it posting here 443 times? I do other things as well.

B