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  Are elders ordained ministers?

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  Are elders ordained ministers?

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  Are elders ordained ministers?

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  WT- Put it in writing, prove it!!!

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  truth- they report the abuse to their own elders and do not contact law enforcement.

  if the parents take the matter into their own hands and contact law enforcement, they are disfellowshipped.

  2. the reason for not contacting law enforcement about physical or sexual abuse is that they believe that the bible says it is wrong to take a brother to court.

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  Just wanted to add. When a company cares more about their appearance than caring for their members, it is only a matter of time before that company goes out of business. Take care of the little children and then you will LOOK better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  WT- Put it in writing, prove it!!!

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  2. child-abuse

  truth- they report the abuse to their own elders and do not contact law enforcement.

  if the parents take the matter into their own hands and contact law enforcement, they are disfellowshipped.

  2. the reason for not contacting law enforcement about physical or sexual abuse is that they believe that the bible says it is wrong to take a brother to court.

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  Thanks everyone for fine tuning the points I was trying to make. The WTS does need to put their "policy" in writing for ALL to see. That way, when an elder goes against the WTSs policy they can be held accountable and the policy can be referred to in making decisions. But when it comes to child abuse, I don't think that they should even need to spell out ground rules because it should be common sense to report this crime to law enforcement. However, the WTS does need to spell this policy out in writing because it has been so grossly abused. Hopefully then, any child abusers will know that the WTS is not messing around and they will report this crime. In my own case, the elders told us not to tell anyone. We had child services over our house several times and each time we lied, even though we were covered in bruises and scars from beltings. My sister was raped by an elders son; nothing was ever done to him and my sister was told to cover up her boobs. Only when the same boy later raped another elders daughter was he finally disfellowshiped. However, he did not go to jail. My 17 year old friend was disfellowshipped for "dating" a 40 something year old elder. The elder just had to give up his position in the congregation. That girl is now raising her family on her own and the elder is now an elder again when he should have been thrown in jail for statutory rape. My other friend's dad was an elder and in the 144,000. He would give her bare butt spankings over his lap when she was in her late teens. I could keep going but I think you get the point. This is a problem in that organization and it needs to be dealt with. Look at their fruits. Protect the little children as Jesus would. Look at their fruits.
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  WT- Put it in writing, prove it!!!

  by love11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  truth- they report the abuse to their own elders and do not contact law enforcement.

  if the parents take the matter into their own hands and contact law enforcement, they are disfellowshipped.

  2. the reason for not contacting law enforcement about physical or sexual abuse is that they believe that the bible says it is wrong to take a brother to court.

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  I am asking anyone that can to write the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Jehovah's Witnesses and ask them to change their policies on reporting child abuse.

  1. They state that they do report child abuse.
  TRUTH- They report the abuse to their own elders and do not contact law enforcement. If the parents take the matter into their own hands and contact law enforcement, they are disfellowshipped.

  2. The reason for not contacting law enforcement about physical or sexual abuse is that they believe that the bible says it is wrong to take a brother to court.

  3. Their policy is that a child has to have two to three eye witnesses to witness the abuse going on before they will believe that child is telling the truth.
  TRUTH- Very rarely will a child be abused in the presence of two three eye witnesses and so the abuse will continue for years.

  4. They continue to state that this was the policy of the past and that the present policy states that the elders will report abuse as soon as they know about it.
  TRUTH- Their are thousands of children and children who are now adults who state that this abuse is still going on and not being reported. To hear about current reports go to http://www.silentlambs.org/

  As of today, the organization has yet to provide written documentation of their new policy change showing that a change has indeed been made. Instead, they send out two elders (representatives) of the organization to provide verbal "proof" that their policy has changed. Which is smart on their part because in a court of law the conversation between you and the two elders will be heresay.

  Please help these innocent victims who are surrounded by adults that will not report this CRIME to law enforcement. And many times, the child is forced to go to the kingdom hall and sees their abuser several times a week. This is abuse of power and must be stopped. Join me in writting a letter to this organization and asking them that they make their policy be known in writting as well as stating the consequences of any elder who does not follow this so called "new policy" of reporting the abuse....if their indeed is one.

  The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society,
  Jehovah's Witnesses, and all entities.
  25 Columbia Heights, Brooklyn, NY 11201-2483

  ****************WT Society if you are reading this********************

  Just like any other company in America has to show documentation of their policy when asked, you should too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  If you cannot provide proof of your NEW policy verses your OLD policy, then it can be said that their is NO POLICY and you are guilty of hiding child molestation, rape, incest, beating, and torture; therefore an accomplice!!!!!!!!!!
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  I'm a Pioneer Married To a Wonderful Brother Reaching Out to be an MS...

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  and petrified... i just recently became a pioneer and always had nagging questions in the back of my mind.

  so, i decided that when i have get a study i would research all the questions as i go along so as to prove everything in the truth... i got 4 studies in about 2 months.

  all was fine, until i reached i think chapter 6 in the bible teach book about the resurrection.

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  About Blood: Lev. 3: 16 The priest shall burn them on the altar as food, an offering made by fire, a pleasing aroma. All the fat is the LORD's. 17 " 'This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: You must not eat any fat or any blood.' " Eating or drinking blood of a bird or animal was forbidden (under jewish law), however it was acceptable to eat or drink Jesus Christs blood and flesh (as stated numerous times in the new testament). I'll leave you to interpret that however you want to.
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  I'm a Pioneer Married To a Wonderful Brother Reaching Out to be an MS...

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  and petrified... i just recently became a pioneer and always had nagging questions in the back of my mind.

  so, i decided that when i have get a study i would research all the questions as i go along so as to prove everything in the truth... i got 4 studies in about 2 months.

  all was fine, until i reached i think chapter 6 in the bible teach book about the resurrection.

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  1. Revelation 7:9 [ The Great Multitude in White Robes ] After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. Revelation 7:8-10 (in Context) Revelation 7 (Whole Chapter) 2. Revelation 19:1 [ Hallelujah! ] After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting: "Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God, Revelation 19:1-3 (in Context) Revelation 19 (Whole Chapter) 3. Revelation 19:6 Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting: "Hallelujah! For our Lord God Almighty reigns. Revelation 19:5-7 (in Context) Revelation 19 (Whole Chapter)
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  I'm a Pioneer Married To a Wonderful Brother Reaching Out to be an MS...

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  and petrified... i just recently became a pioneer and always had nagging questions in the back of my mind.

  so, i decided that when i have get a study i would research all the questions as i go along so as to prove everything in the truth... i got 4 studies in about 2 months.

  all was fine, until i reached i think chapter 6 in the bible teach book about the resurrection.

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  sorry- its verse 9 not 14
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  I'm a Pioneer Married To a Wonderful Brother Reaching Out to be an MS...

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  and petrified... i just recently became a pioneer and always had nagging questions in the back of my mind.

  so, i decided that when i have get a study i would research all the questions as i go along so as to prove everything in the truth... i got 4 studies in about 2 months.

  all was fine, until i reached i think chapter 6 in the bible teach book about the resurrection.

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  Biblegateway.com has an online bible for you to look up info. Here is Rev. Ch. 7 verse 14, pay careful attention to where it states the location of the great multitude. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&chapter=7&version=31