"The Dark Side"? Drama.
Look at it for what it is, according to the Watchtower.....this whole mess is because God wants to protect his reputation. Nothing more, nothing less.
it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.
more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?
who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.
"The Dark Side"? Drama.
Look at it for what it is, according to the Watchtower.....this whole mess is because God wants to protect his reputation. Nothing more, nothing less.
it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.
more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?
who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.
Give it time Nancy.
it used to for me, and now it doesn't.. i'm not sure how i was able to accept that argument now that i don't, but perhaps it was connected with my increasing compassion for people and their personal suffering as i've grown older.. now it seems like a sick excuse.
more like a bar-bet with satan and all of creation suffers.. i read paul's words and he has no rejoiner except to say in effect "sucks to be a vessel of wrath...glad i'm not one, but who are you to complain anyway, huh?
who's bigger, smarter and more powerful than you, you, you complaining vessel of wrath, you.
God's justice is a bitch.
ok this thread might get my ass kicked by some of you in here, but don't take it the wrong way...i'm just curious, why do we care so much about the wt calling us "mentally diseased"?
i mean haven't we said far worse things about the wt and gb in this forum?
(i include myself)...i know many of us got all bent out of shape because of those two words they used on us and some of us are trying to get the law on our side, but if we could file lawsuits against them, then i'm sure they can just as easily get their money back by accusing us of "hate speech" and having this website shut down.
Now that is a real eye opener there Greybeard. '73 was the year I got baptised....for some reason, I don't remember that gem.
i gather from my other thread that many liked the creation books, the mankind search for god book, the greatest man book and the ministry school book.. but which book did you absolutely detest?.
here is mine:.
i thought it was a vile, hate filled book!.
Gotta go with the "Grand Climax" book. And, oh God, I think we had to study it 4 or 5 times. Then when they had us paste over the old light....LOL
many new testament biblical students today of both messianic jewish and christian backgrounds, are finding out that paul of tarsus simply doesn't fit with the remainder of new testament theology.
there is an article i've recently read, from the judaism vs. christianity dot com website that deals explicitly with this topic.... well, now i cannot seem to access it, but here is the link:.
http://www.judaismvschristianity.com/paulthe.htm.
I'm gonna "out cool" you all!!! Nya, ah ah!
ever notice how many new testament verses show jesus in support of taking up a sword or going out and buying a sword?.
"prince of peace" yet, "do not think i came to bring peace, i came to bring, not peace, but a sword".... (i'm paraphrasing from mat 10:34).
luk_22:36 he said to them, "but now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack.
Oh yeah!
just posted by vampire665 on facebook.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/28/jehovahs-witness-magazine_n_985479.html.
"we recognize their right to leave". Um, I think I'm a little queazy..
i believe that the governing body knew very well what would be the consequences of publishing the above article on apostates.
they carefully word every article, not only for the faithful, but for the unfaithful, and for those who have never believed our faith.
the above article and the comments here show me their great wisdom, because they have achieved exactly what they wanted.
That's because the Bible is written about them!
ever notice how many new testament verses show jesus in support of taking up a sword or going out and buying a sword?.
"prince of peace" yet, "do not think i came to bring peace, i came to bring, not peace, but a sword".... (i'm paraphrasing from mat 10:34).
luk_22:36 he said to them, "but now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack.
"...and I know, nobody can do me no harm, because..."
All together now!