Posts by tijkmo

in the new book released at the witnesses assemblies this year , " keep yourselves in god's love " notice this bit of counsel given on possible separations in marriage .

it says on pg.

221 , " absolute endangerment of spiritual life.

tijkmo

the new book will be offered to the public soon enough i guess...and the information is no different to information already in print for public consumption...e.g.

*** w88 11/1 pp. 22-23 When Marital Peace Is Threatened ***
Grounds for Separation

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Paul’s words at 1 Corinthians 7:10-16 encourage marriage mates to stay together. Yet, some, after trying very hard to preserve their marriage relationship, have finally decided that, in all conscience, they have no choice but to separate. What may be the grounds for such a step?
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Willfulnonsupport is one basis for separation. When entering wedlock, a husband assumes the responsibility of providing for his wife and any children they may have. The man who does not provide for members of his household "has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith." (1 Timothy 5:8) So separation is possible if there is willful nonsupport. Of course, appointed elders should give careful consideration to an accusation that a Christian is refusing to support his wife and family. Stubborn refusal to support one’s family may result in disfellowshipping.
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Extremephysicalabuse is another basis for separation. Suppose an unbelieving mate often gets drunk, becomes enraged, and causes the believer physical harm. (Proverbs 23:29-35) Through prayer and by displaying the fruitage of Jehovah’s spirit, the believer may be able to prevent such outbursts and make the situation endurable. But if the point is reached where the health and life of the abused mate actually are in jeopardy, separation would be allowable Scripturally. Again, congregation elders should look into charges of physical abuse when two Christians are involved in the troubled marriage, and disfellowshipping action may have to be taken.—Compare Galatians 5:19-21; Titus 1:7.
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Absoluteendangermentof spirituality also provides a basis for separation. The believer in a religiously divided home should do everything possible to take advantage of God’s spiritual provisions. But separation is allowable if an unbelieving mate’s opposition (perhaps including physical restraint) makes it genuinely impossible to pursue true worship and actually imperils the believer’s spirituality. Yet, what if a very unhealthy spiritual state exists where both mates are believers? The elders should render assistance, but especially should the baptized husband work diligently to remedy the situation. Of course, if a baptized marriage partner acts like an apostate and tries to prevent his mate from serving Jehovah, the elders should handle matters according to the Scriptures. If disfellowshipping takes place in a case involving absolute endangerment of spirituality, willful nonsupport, or extreme physical abuse, the faithful Christian who seeks a legal separation would not be going against Paul’s counsel about taking a believer to court.—1 Corinthians 6:1-8.
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If circumstances are extreme, then, separation may be warranted. But flimsy pretexts obviously should not be used to obtain a separation. Any Christians who do separate must bear personal responsibility for that action and should realize that all of us will render an account to Jehovah.—Hebrews 4:13.

***g022/8p.10MarriageShouldBeaPermanentBond***
DIVORCEANDSEPARATIONGod, the Originator of marriage, designed it to be a permanent union. But is there any Scriptural reason for a person to divorce his or her mate—and one that would allow for the possibility of remarrying? Jesus addressed this matter by declaring: "I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, exceptonthegroundoffornication, and marries another commits adultery." (Matthew 19:9) Sexual infidelity by a mate is the only ground for a divorce that will allow the innocent mate to remarry.
In addition, the Bible’s words at 1 Corinthians 7:10-16, while encouraging marriage mates to stay together, allow for separation. Some, after trying very hard to preserve their marriage, feel they have no choice but to separate. What can be acceptable Scriptural grounds for such a step?
One is willfulnonsupport. When getting married, a husband assumes the responsibility of providing for his wife and children. The man who willfully fails to provide the material necessities of life "has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith." (1 Timothy 5:8) So separation is possible.
Another is extremephysicalabuse. So then, if a mate physically abuses his wife, the victim may separate. (Galatians 5:19-21; Titus 1:7) "Anyone loving violence [God’s] soul certainly hates."—Psalm 11:5.
Another ground for separation is the absoluteendangermentofabeliever’sspirituality—one’s relationship with God. When a mate’s opposition, perhaps including physical restraint, has made it impossible to pursue true worship and has imperiled the believer’s spirituality, then some believers have found it necessary to separate.—Matthew 22:37; Acts 5:27-32.

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Notice this Contradiction on How Jehovah's Witnesses View Marriage

by flipper in

jw
friends

in the new book released at the witnesses assemblies this year , " keep yourselves in god's love " notice this bit of counsel given on possible separations in marriage .

it says on pg.

221 , " absolute endangerment of spiritual life.

tijkmo

sorry ..still not seeing a contradiction

in both of the examples that you sited to begin with the message is the same...

absolute spiritual endangerment.....grounds for separation

unbelieving spouses willing to stay together.....stay together

if certain individuals decide to use the allowance of spiritual endangerment as grounds for separation where there is no spiritual endangerment...and some elders appear to sanction this...then that could hardly be considered to be evidence of a contradiction from the wts.

your topic does say 'how jehovah's witnesses view marraige' so you may have a point about individuals but your first post implied that this was a deliberate deception at decision-making level from hq..and that just simply isn't true

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Richer men are more attractive than poor men.

by mtsgrad in

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tijkmo

i hide my money..cos i would hate to think that somone only liked me cos i have it.

she can find out when she has fallen in love with me for who i am

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Blonde year in review

by John Doe in

blondes year in review: .

january - took new scarf back to store because it was too tight..

february - fired from pharmacy job for failing to print labels.....helllloooo!!

tijkmo

January - Took new scarf back to store because it was too tight.

so decided to shop online - but that didn't work cos couldn't find the restroom

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Favorite Toasted Sarmies.

by LouBelle in

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sarmies = sandwhich.. i"m only making a topic about it because i'm hungry right now and would love to have a toasted chicken and mayo with a dash of peri peri.

or a toasted bacon and cheese.

would go down so well right now.. .

tijkmo

cheese and baked beans

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Kingdom Hall Weddings - November Kingdom Ministry

by BluesBrother in

if this has already been posted up - then i missed it.. this question box left me .

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tijkmo

i used to give wedding talks and perform the vows (and gave funeral talks)

i never once used the outline for any of them. so they were lively and interesting and personalised.

i always met with the couple long before the wedding and told them that i would be asking them nearer the time whether their courtship had been 'honourable' . so i gave them plenty of warning . i said i don't need confessions now but if you are up to anything or you get tempted in the future just remember that i will ask.

some of the people i married are still together

all of the folk i buried are still dead

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Notice this Contradiction on How Jehovah's Witnesses View Marriage

by flipper in

jw
friends

in the new book released at the witnesses assemblies this year , " keep yourselves in god's love " notice this bit of counsel given on possible separations in marriage .

it says on pg.

221 , " absolute endangerment of spiritual life.

tijkmo

don't see a contradiction myself...

not saying there aren't others elsewhere..

but this says if an 'unbeliever' is agreeable then don't separate...but if his her disagreeableness becomes life/health threatening then separate if you wish.

do jws encourage separation.....no

do they make allowances.....yes

happens in other religions too.

sometimes we see things that aren't there cos we wanna

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Did anyone hear that not being married cuts off 9 years of your life?

by Bubblie in

heard this on the tv tonight that married people live 9 years longer than single people.

another reason to be pissed at my ex for divorcing me.

oh well, he is left handed and they live less time than right handers.

tijkmo

i heard that last year in the uk just under 1000 people died while driving..

and that over 500 died from drinking...

and that only 50 or so died from drink/driving

which would seem to make drink/driving the safest choice..

apparently the number of people who died while driving drunk and juggling was 2...so not exactly fool proof but worth thinking about.

damn statistics eh

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OMG! a horrible lie in the July WT with a jesus pic....

by oompa in

bad day today...how the hey did everyone miss this??

?....or did i miss a post about it?.....i am not supposed to talk about anything jw with my hardcore jw wife...but while on the toilet takin care of biz..i was reading the lit she leaves in a basket...it was a wt..july 08, but dont know which one....once i showed it to her it disappeared...but damm the last page i think... it had a drawing of jesus and the text under it said this "jesus used the name jehovah in his prayers"....or close....and that is a fluckkin lie!...zero support for it!...so i said just freakin show me where he did...i think my pants were still down...i had already come to terms with the fact that jesus never once uttered the name jehovah ever...because what kid...esp in a serious discussion with his dad (like prayer) would ever call him by his first name???

?...she disagreed...how i dont know...but where is the evidence that jesus ever said the divine name in a prayer?!?!!??

tijkmo

i think it is perfectly conceivable for a child to make his/her father's name known without disrespectfully using his given (christian!) name . or calling him by that name when addressing him.