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  Bethel: Pathway to Apostasy

  by Black Man in

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  at the 'big house' you go either one of two ways, company man or apostate.

  i think for many that went, it demystified the whole organization and you saw firsthand that there wasn't holy spirit influencing anything - only the muses of sheltered, out-of-touch old men and political bureaucrats.

  i work in the corporate world and i saw just as much if not more politics in bethel.

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  to not being sociable with co-workers

  the irony just knocks me out...tijkmo
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  the real purpose of field service

  by what_Truth? in

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  i've been racking this around my brain for a minute now.

  you've got people puttin in an average of 10 hours a month, giving away countless publications, and still only converting one or two families every 20 years or so.

  this raises an obvious question, "if the door to door ministry doesn't bring in converts why do it?

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  im sure that special campaigns are not designed for the public either..they are designed to generate some enthusiasm among the cong..the last one was offering the brochure about keeping on the watch which isnt even designed for the public to read...our cong was so excited that one person pioneered...me...one year reinstated i was now allowed to..so i did cos i used to enjoy it so thought i would try to see if it would make a difference to my mental state......gave up after 2 weeks..surprised i lasted that long
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  Bethel: Pathway to Apostasy

  by Black Man in

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  at the 'big house' you go either one of two ways, company man or apostate.

  i think for many that went, it demystified the whole organization and you saw firsthand that there wasn't holy spirit influencing anything - only the muses of sheltered, out-of-touch old men and political bureaucrats.

  i work in the corporate world and i saw just as much if not more politics in bethel.

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  interesting about the g-jobbing as most bethelites used to do some outside work just to survive financially...i also know a central-american branch overseer who refused to sign the vow of poverty for that very reason...he was allowed not to although im sure soldier ants wouldnt be given that allowance
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  At least 3 years...

  by Confession in

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  for some time now i've been searching the wts' publications for a policy that i clearly remember from my time as an elder.

  but i just can't find it.

  it was the one which stated that if someone--even a congregation servant--came forward and confessed to wrongdoing, there would not have to be a judicial committee, nor would a servant even need to lose his privileges--if at least three years had passed and the individual had put the sin behind him/her.

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  confession...the org book was updates about 1983 so the reference is to an earlier edition..ive been looking for one recently to check something about disfellowshipped people getting literature(cos that was changed recently) but no one seems to have the older version and no org book is on the cd...some one here might have one

  ive spent much of this aft looking at references for the scriptures that say that nothing will remain secret and all will be revealed...i remember sincerely believing that somehow this would happen as if by magic and so it was pointless not confessing anyway but some references say that the revealing will come at armageddon when it will be punished IF you are still doing the wrong things..

  you must have been well liked as chairman of that commitee...an elder that was trying to be understanding to a wrongdoer...a rare occurence indeed,,the irony just knocks me out..tijkmo
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  At least 3 years...

  by Confession in

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  for some time now i've been searching the wts' publications for a policy that i clearly remember from my time as an elder.

  but i just can't find it.

  it was the one which stated that if someone--even a congregation servant--came forward and confessed to wrongdoing, there would not have to be a judicial committee, nor would a servant even need to lose his privileges--if at least three years had passed and the individual had put the sin behind him/her.

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  kingdom ministry..october 1972
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  At least 3 years...

  by Confession in

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  2. experiences

  for some time now i've been searching the wts' publications for a policy that i clearly remember from my time as an elder.

  but i just can't find it.

  it was the one which stated that if someone--even a congregation servant--came forward and confessed to wrongdoing, there would not have to be a judicial committee, nor would a servant even need to lose his privileges--if at least three years had passed and the individual had put the sin behind him/her.

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  Question

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  What is meant by "some years ago" on page 170, paragraph two, in the "Organization" book?

  This indicates more than a year or two. It may be noted that it did not say "many years ago." So it is not an exact number of years, but more like two or three years. It was not intended to have a brother go back into the distant past to bring up wrongs of which he repented years ago and that have evidently been forgiven by Jehovah and are not being practiced now. In many cases the wrongs occurred prior to the time when the "Watchtower" drew attention to what the Scriptures say on such misconduct.

  If a brother has been serving faithfully for some years and has seen evidence of Jehovah?s blessings upon him, why should he now step down from office? If he has the right viewpoint now on conduct and will give good counsel he should be able to continue to serve. If the local body of elders see that he has the respect of the congregation and has shown the proper qualifications over the last two or three years, he may remain in his position of service.

  Must wrongdoing be brought to public attention after many years? The book (page 168) under "Public Reproof" quotes 1 Timothy 5:20 and mentions reproof of those who confess to committing more than one offense. But it really has to do with recent events. The "Interlinear" refers to those "sinning," something going on at the time. So if repentance occurred some years ago, three years ago or more, and sinning ceased, and he is respected by the congregation, it is not necessary now to publicly reprove one who committed more than one offense "some years ago

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  Bragging Rights or I'll Try Not To Be Too Obnoxious

  by HadEnuf in

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  dear friends from wi (and i know you're lurking out there in cheesehead land)!

  tomorrow night at 7 pm (april 6), my son's band, tree of woe, will have their first single off their new cd played on 95.5 wifc here in central wi.

  every week they choose a new song to play and people call in to vote on whether or not they like it.

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  hey listened and loved it...more my kinda music than tool...tell us when the album is released..i will get it
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  Your Most DREADED Dub Word

  by GetBusyLiving in

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  i wanna hear the word that made you either physically nauseous or burst out in uncontrolable laughter.

  please demonstrate it in a sentence as well.

  mine was 'enthused' (my fingers were shaking as i typed).

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  talesin.....surely it was....let other peoples conscience be your guide
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  Speaking of user names...

  by Mastodon in

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  did y'all pick your own user names?

  'cause mine was given to me when i registered so i never got the chance to choose it...

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  coulrophobia

  Living with a fear of clowns As long as I can remember I have lived with the fear of clowns (coulrophobia). I always thought I was on my own but over the years I have realised there are a lot of people in the same situation as me. None of my family or friends realise how afraid I am. They used to think it was a joke, and I suppose to most people, it does sound silly.
  My Dad always remembers taking me to the circus as a youngster; a clown apparently came up to me trying to be funny. Dad said I was petrified and jumped on to his knee, crying. I guess this may be where my fear stems from. I do remember that I used to go to friends parties but would always ask if they were going to have a clown beforehand - if they did, I wouldn't go. Some people must wonder what the big deal is? For me, I just can't bear their painted faces, curly wigs and big size 12 shoes.
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  Were there any lies in your congregation?

  by badboy in

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  i was offered the po position (sounds like something from the kama sutra...not that i know anything about the kama sutra)...by another elder who was friendly with the co....but he was campaigning behind the existing pos back which i didnt agree with so i turned it down.. even though said po was useless and needed to be changed it was an underhand way to go about it..later at my jc both the elder who made the offer (who was now po) and the ousted po were present and the subject came up and i reminded him that he had tried to bribe me with the pos job,something that the ousted po was unaware of, and he denied it to my face..on a jc..after a prayer..with jesus and the holy spirit present..lol