Posts by tijkmo

hey awakeandwatching thanx for the utube link..hadn't thought about looking on there..that track is on rogers 'amused to death' cd .you may well enjoy the whole thing..i you to use it as an illustration in a public talk..if only they knew eh. i used to play that track on the guitar also and i have been doing some acoustic evenings lately so i'm gonna relearn it again.

Who used to order his troops
To fire on women and children
Imagine that imagine that

indeed.

Dunno whether you was referring to this tijkmo but it's another good one anyway.

hey sad emo i was referring back to nvrgnbk's comment re sunday bloody sunday. when they played it live they used to introduce it with the comment 'this is not a protest song'..bit tongue in cheek i think..i think it is on the under a blood red sky album.

and since merry is here everyone (must be the time of year - see what i did there) then let me give you some lyrics from one of her protest songs since she probably wouldn't submit them herself.....followed by some of mine (since i don't suffer from shyness lol)

no utube links yet sadly..but i'm working on it.

LIARS AND FOOLS - part 3

THERE’S NO WISDOM AMONG FOOLS THERE IS NO HONOUR AMONG THIEVES I KNOW I’VE HEARD IT SAID NOW IT’S SOMETHING I BELIEVE THERE IS NO HONOUR AMONG LIARS AND FOOLS
THE TOOK AWAY OUR PASSION
THEY TOOK AWAY OUR PRIDE
THEY TOOK THE KEYS TO PARADISE
AND KEPT US LOCKED OUTSIDE
BUT THEY’RE LIARS…LIARS AND FOOLS

THE TOOK AWAY OUR PASSION
THEY TOOK AWAY OUR PRIDE
NOW WE’VE GOT NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE
AND NOTHING LEFT TO HIDE
COS THEY’RE LIARS…LIARS AND FOOLS
AND THERE’S NO HONOUR AMONG THIEVES
AND THERE’S NO WISDOM AMONG FOOLS
THERE’S NO BELIEVING LIARS
WHEN THEY BREAK ALL THEIR OWN RULES
AND THERE’S NOTHING WE CAN DO
AND THERE’S NOTHING WE CAN SAY
TO THOSE WHO WOULD BE FOOLED COS THEY’LL DO IT ANYWAY TO SALVAGE THEIR OWN DIGNITY
TO SAVE WHAT THEY HAVE LOST
TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT WITH EVERYONE
WOULD BE TOO HIGH A COST SO THEY KEEP RIGHT ON LYING
BUT WE’RE NOT FOOLED
THERE’S NO WISDOM IN THEIR FOLLY
THERE’S NO HONOUR IN THEIR GAIN
THERE’S NO PRIDE WITHOUT INTEGRITY
NO PASSION WITHOUT PAIN
AND THERE’S NOTHING LEFT
NOTHING LEFT FOR LIARS AND FOOLS
AND THERE IS NO HEAVENLY REWARD
AND NO ONE GETS A FREE RIDE
THERE’S NO PARADISE BEYOND
ALL WE HAVE IS WHAT’S INSIDE
AND IT’S ALL WE’LL EVER NEED
AND NO-ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY
AND ALL THE PROMISES THEY MADE
WELL THEY’LL BE HERE ANY DAY
SO DON’T BE TAKEN IN BY THIEVES
AND DON’T BE FOOLED BY SCHEMES
DON’T LET THE UNINSPIRED
DEPRIVE YOU OF YOUR DREAMS
COS THEY’RE JUST LIARS
LIARS AND FOOLS

LIARS AND FOOLS - part 4

AAAAAH
IF WE COULD REVERSE
ALL THAT WENT BEFORE
WOULD WE CHOOSE TO DO IT ALL AGAIN
OR WOULD WE CHANGE OUR COURSE - OF COURSE NO DOUBT
DARKNESS DESCENDS WITHOUT A WARNING
UNLIKE THE COLD PREDICTABILITY OF NIGHT FROM WHICH THE SUN WILL RISE AGAIN
AND SHINE ITS LIGHT UPON YOUR WORLD
BUT OBSCURITY SURROUNDS ME NOW
ALL REASON TAKES A BOW
YOU SAID YOU’D CATCH ME WHEN NOT IF I FELL
YOU DIDN’T HAVE TO PROMISE THAT
BUT NOW TO PROVE YOUR WORDS ARE TRUE
THE OBLIGATION LIES WITH YOU
AND YOU WOULD NOT CRUSH A BROKEN REED
OR EXTINGUISH A FLAXEN WICK
AAAAAH
LOOK ME IN THE EYE
AND TELL ME THAT YOU KNOW
JUST BECAUSE IT’S WHAT YOU CHOSE TO BELIEVE
IT DOES NOT MAKE IT SO OH NO NO WAY
HOWEVER EXPERT WE MAY FEEL WE ARE
IGNORANCE WILL GET US IN THE END
AND BURIED DEEP BENEATH THE AVALANCHE
OF YOUR INADEQUACIES
LIES THE SOULS OF THOSE WHO CRIED FOR AID
WHO STILL REGRET THE PRICE THEY PAID
AND STILL THEY WISH FOR VOICES HEARD
AS THEY SHOUT OUT IN VAIN
WE PRAY WE PLEAD A GOD WHO ISN’T THERE
BESEECH A GOD WHO DOES NOT CARE
AND IN SKIN BOTTLES YOU SAVE OUR TEARS
HOW MANY SKINS HOW MANY TEARS
HOW MANY SKINS HOW MANY TEARS
HOW MANY TEARS
HOW HAPPY ON THE MERCIFUL SINCE THEY’LL BE MERCY SHOWN
WHILE PRINCES RULE FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS
YEAH I THINK THAT COVERS BLOWN
COMPASSION AND CRUELTY LIVE SIDE BY SIDE IN ONE HEART
AND ANYONE IS CAPABLE OF BOTH

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The Very Best "Protest" Songs?

by hillary_step in

hard to believe that jackson browne wrote this piece twenty-two years ago.

hard to believe just how apt it is for the modern america.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpfdbklumqk&feature=related.

laura nyro - save the country.

tijkmo

' this is not a protest song this is sunday bloody sunday '

roger waters - watching tv

We were watching TV
In Tiananmen Square
Lost my baby there
My yellow rose
In her bloodstained clothes
She was a short order pastry chef
In a Dim Sum dive on the Yangtze tideway
She had a shiny hair
She was a daughter of an engineer
Won't you shed a tear
For my yellow rose
My yellow rose
In her bloodstained clothes
She had a perfect breasts
She had high hopes
She had almond eyes
She had yellow thighs
She was a student of philosophy
Won't you grieve with me
For my yellow rose
Shed a tear
For her bloodstained clothes
She had shiny hair
She had perfect breasts
She had almond eyes
She had yellow thighs
She was a daughter af an engineer
So get out your pistols
Get out your stones
Get out your knives
Cut them to the bone
They are the lackeys of the grocer's machine
They built the dark satanic mills
That manufacture hell on earth
They bought the front row seats on Calvary
They are irrelevant to me
And I grieve for my sister
People of China
Do not forget do not forget
The children who died for you
Long live the Republic
Did we do anything after this
I've feeling we did
We were watching TV
Watching TV
We were watching TV
Watching TV
She wore a white bandanna that said
Freedom now
She thought the Great Wall of China
Would come tumbling down
She was a student
Her father was an engineer
Won't you shed a tear
For my yellow rose
My yellow rose
In her bloodstained clothes
Her grandpa fought old Chiang Kai-shek
That no-good low-down dirty rat
Who used to order his troops
To fire on women and children
Imagine that imagine that
And in the spring of'48
Mao Tse-tung got quite irate
And he kicked that old dictator Chiang
Out of the state of China
Chiang Kai-shek came down in Formosa
And they armed the island of Quemoy
And the shells were flying across the China Sea
And they turned Formosa into a shoe factory
Called Taiwan
And she is different from Cro-Magnon man
She's different from Anne Boleyn
She is different from the Rosenbergs
And from the unknown Jew
She is different from the unknown Nicaraguan
Half superstar half victim
She's a victor star conceptually new
And she is different from the Dodo
And from the Kankabono
She is different from the Aztec
And from the Cherokee
She's everybody's sister
She's a symbolic of our failure
She's the one in fifty million
Who can help us to be free
Because she died on TV
And I grieve for my sister

worst protest song...born in the usa - bruce

208

Self Deceit and Faith.

by hillary_step in

jw
friends

this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

tijkmo

the island

indeed

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I wish I had _'s . What do you admire about other posters?

by AWAKE&WATCHING in

i wish i had leolaia's brain.. i wish i had eryn's reasoning skills and sense of humor.. i wish i had purps, sparkplug and seven006's talent and creativity.. i wish i had wasanelderonce's dedication.. .

do you wish you had another poster's wit, compassion, heart, personality, tenacity, sense of humor, looks, way with the ladies, way with words or anything else that you admire?.

fess up - what do they have that you want?.

tijkmo

TIJ, you aren't supposed to leave the first blank blank.

looking for applicants...lol

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I wish I had _'s . What do you admire about other posters?

by AWAKE&WATCHING in

i wish i had leolaia's brain.. i wish i had eryn's reasoning skills and sense of humor.. i wish i had purps, sparkplug and seven006's talent and creativity.. i wish i had wasanelderonce's dedication.. .

do you wish you had another poster's wit, compassion, heart, personality, tenacity, sense of humor, looks, way with the ladies, way with words or anything else that you admire?.

fess up - what do they have that you want?.

tijkmo

i wish i had _______'s affections

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Did being a JW make you overly judgemental?

by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

looking back, being a jw meant constantly analyzing and categorizing others.

on field service, persons were either "sheeplike" or "goatlike".

in the congregation it went even further.

tijkmo

who the hell are you to ask??

155

Share your favorite silly/stoopid joke...

by Priest73 in

hey,.

did you guys hear what happened to the pope when he went to mount olive?.

popeye beat the snot out of him.

tijkmo

what's green and says ' i'm a frog '

a talking frog

208

Self Deceit and Faith.

by hillary_step in

jw
friends

this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

tijkmo

I can't be sure what I'll be in 2 years, and you can't either. However, what makes you two think that? Just curious.

faith !!