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  "Mind" Blowing Article on Watchtower Indoctrination! MUST READ!

  by What-A-Coincidence in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the author (from australia) makes some great points.. http://www.noelbatten.com/watchtower.pdf.

  46 pages long.

  some excerpts:.

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  ButtLight

  If you think about how long it takes to deprogram yourself once you leave, it makes sence!
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  Souls have weight?

  by ButtLight in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  first off, i'm always confused as to what the difference is between a soul and a spirit.

  but i read this article, and found it quite interesting.

  (maybe even funny).

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  ButtLight

  First off, I'm always confused as to what the difference is between a soul and a spirit. But I read this article, and found it quite interesting. (maybe even funny). But if you believe your soul lives on after death, you may find this interesting too. Our souls weigh 21 grams?

  http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id787.html
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  "Mind" Blowing Article on Watchtower Indoctrination! MUST READ!

  by What-A-Coincidence in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the author (from australia) makes some great points.. http://www.noelbatten.com/watchtower.pdf.

  46 pages long.

  some excerpts:.

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  ButtLight

  I started a thread quite some time ago about this, here is another article about it. Long, but good. There are other things in the link worth reading too.

  http://www.energeticsolutions.com.au/great_watchtower_deception.html#compere_narator_usher

  A Comparrison Between A Jehovah's Witness Meeting
  And A Clinical Hypnosis Session

  The Compere, the Narrator and the Usher All Jehovah's Witness meetings have a compere who stands in the centre of the stage and reads a special weekly study story, paragraph-by-paragraph, from a Watchtower study magazine supplied from Watchtower head office in America. Then they have a narrator who sits off to one side of the stage, to read the scripture from a bible which Watchtower have written into the study story at the end of each paragraph being read by the compere. After the compere and narrator have finished interacting to read a paragraph followed by a scripture, then another paragraph followed by another scripture, etc, etc, when the study story is completely finished, which takes around twenty to thirty minutes, an usher walks up the isle amongst the congregation with a microphone on a long pole that allows him to reach it in amongst the congregation so members of the congregation can speak into the michrophone to give their answers to the compere, as he reads out a list of questions that Watchtower have written in the study magazine, at the end of the story.

  What shocked me to the core, was that while listening to what was being read out and observing what the compere, the narrator and the usher were doing, it suddenly hit me like a brick to the back of the head, that this method of teaching is what Sigmund Freud taught in the early nineteen hundreds as "Conscious Hypnosis". (I assure you, this is not just simple brainwashing, it is advanced clinical hypnosis which, in time, has the ability to completely take over a person's free-will and mental judgment and reasoning skills and turn that person into a totally non-thinking zombie-like robot who will do anything they are told to do, even if they are told to commit suicide.

  This principal of hypnosis is similar and is, over time, just as mentally overpowering as the one used by television hypnotists who make people selected for the show, believe they are a chook, a dog, an elephant or something that makes them act absolutely rediculous in front of the viewing audience, in order to show how completely overpowering hypnosis can be. Even though people who are not dedicated to the Jehovah's Witness movement, can see that the blood scriptures only relate to not "eating" blood and that refusing a blood transfusion to save your own life, is absolutely rediculous, Jehovah's Witnesses are just as oblivious as the people who carry on like a chook, a dog or an elephant, on television, for all to see.)

  Freud's Four Rules Of Clinical Hypnosis

  Let me explain how Freud's principal of Clinical "Conscious Hypnosis" works so you can compare it with how Watchtower has designed the Jehovah's Witness meetings to be run.

  The story I originally read on Freud's Conscious Hypnosis, explained that in order to affect the unconscious mind so severely that the mind can fully block off to pain, for example: hypnosis used before a surgical operation as a pain suppressant, instead of using anaesthetic, due to the patient being allergic to anaesthetic, or to program the mind to completely block off fears that create phobias of spiders and heights etc, it is essential to use the following four rules of hypnosis, all at the same time.

  1. A therapist using hypnosis must make sure the person being hypnotised, is well-relaxed, because if the conscious mind is excited or hyperactive, hypnotic suggestions cannot get past conscious judgment and reasoning skills, into the unconscious mind to create a totally overpowering hypnotic state. Watchtower puts out a song book with over one hundred songs that have words and music which create a slow subliminal tone to relax the congregation. Not one song in this Watchtower song book, has an up-tempo beat like the songs sung in the Orthodox Church. Every song they play induces relaxation.
  2. After promoting relaxation, a therapist using hypnosis must get the person being hypnotised to focus on something that causes the eyes to repeatedly move from left to right, which prevents a part of the brain that deals with judgment and reasoning, the prefrontal cortex, from focusing on the hypnotic suggestions being spoken, to do it's job of rejecting anything being said which the person being hypnotised, doesn't agree with, or believe in. In other words, getting a person to relax and causing continuous left to right eye movement allows a therapist to bypass conscious judgment and reasoning skills in order to program that person's brain to become so manipulated that you can actually change the autonomic functions of the mind and body. It is so overpowering that it can block out the excruciating pain of a major surgical operation, stop the eyes from being able to see one particular number or word written on a piece of paper and even take away a person's love for life and will to live, sufficiently to cause them to commit suicide. (You cannot possibly do this with basic brainwashing techniques used, for example, by football coaches who have their team repeatedly chant their mission statement before each game and each training session, to become devoted to turning up to practice and to focus fully on winning when they play.)The way that Watchtower has created this left-to-right eye movement, is to have the compere standing in the centre of the stage reading one paragraph of the story from the study book and the narrator sitting off to one side, reading a bible verse after each paragraph. As the congregation watches, not only do their eyes continually move from left to right which stops them from listening and examining the words of the story to reject what they don't agree with, but if they are not watching, their ears will hear the words spoken by the compere on the right and the narrator on the left.
  3. A therapist using hypnosis must also design a story with at least four hypnotic suggestions in it, catering for our four main emotions of reasoning, and, that covers the belief that you want the unconscious mind to become conditioned to believing. To further support the story, it is also necessary to give socially accepted reasoning to the story intermittently as you deliver it to the person being hypnotised. (As a therapist, I used medical research results and other therapists often use basic survey results, but Watchtower simply uses bible scripture.) This procedure is so powerful over normal mind and body functions, that you can use it to have a person eat an extremely sour onion and truly believe they are eating a juicy peach, without that onion causing any tears or allowing the person to realise that they are biting into an onion. It is also so powerful that it can make a person refuse a blood transfusion if their life depends on it, or even worse, make parents stop medical doctors from giving their young child a blood transfusion, when his/her life depends on it, thus causing death to their own child. This is the ultimate form of hypnotic mental takeover and the leaders of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society have applied it to their study procedures, in an extremely effective manner. The leaders of Watchtower have designed their study stories to have the four hypnotic suggestions within the story they want their Jehovah's Witness followers to believe in and have added bible scriptures after one or two paragraphs, in order to give the compere and the narrator their job to do to create left and right eye and hearing movement to produce the hypnotic effect. These study stories are so important to Watchtower to establish a hypnotic effect in all Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide, that they insist to all the leaders of each individual congregation centre in every country, that they must not stray from using the study story in every meeting or change the position of the compere and narrator or leave out the use of the usher for the all-important question time, held at the end of each story. Watchtower head office in New York, supplies every Jehovah's Witness meeting hall in every city of every country, with new study books each month, so that every Jehovah's witness world wide is subjected to this hypnotic process every time they attend a Jehovah's Witness meeting at any meeting hall. Even the Jehovah Witnesses who come to your home in pairs to study with you, are told to study from the Watchtower booklet sitting with you at your table, and one of them will read the story and the other will read the scripture, so that the exact same hypnotic effect is at work on you, in your own home even before you actually decide to commit yourself to attending the local Jehovah's Witness meeting hall as a congregation member. Jehovah's Witness followers are usually beautiful God-loving people who do not have a clue that this is going on, but I assure you, several managers at the very top of the Watchtower organisation in New York, are fully in control of this sinister deception that is killing more than a thousand Jehovah's Witnesses every year.) Reference for this statistic:- "Blood On The Altar" by author, David A Reed.
  4. When the therapist's hypnosis session is completed, at a time immediately after the left-to-right eye movement has been stopped, the therapist must ask a list of at least four questions which cover each of the four versions of the hypnotic suggestion story, so that the person being hypnotised, begins to think consciously about what was done during the hypnosis session, to bring the newly-programmed belief out of the unconscious mind and establish it as a fully accepted conscious belief. This last part of the session is essential as it joins the conscious mind with the unconscious mind to expand the brain's total acceptance of the hypnotic effect.
     
     This task is covered extremely well by Watchtower's use of the questions supplied at the end of each story printed in the Watchtower study magazine and the usher who Watchtower has instructed to walk the isle to extend the michrophone to those who wish to answer the questions.
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  The WT Clock: Proof that Jehovah is amazing and awe inspiring

  by FadingAway in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from an email i got:.

  here is a story told at the annual meeting.

  you know how the society has been cutting costs, part time help, cutting back on cd;s selling property etc... well, you know the famous watchtower read gods word daily " sign is on one side of the place,,,, well ,,, on the other side is a sign but also a clock which is lit at night!

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  ButtLight

  Do you think the mayor would pay for mine too?

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  what is supposedly resurrected at resurrection?

  by iblowmynoseatyou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is an idea that really freaked me out when i was still "in".

  i asked it several times in groups of friends, and i would get two reactions: confusion/not understanding, and silence/looking at the ground.

  if you die, and your body disinegrates, and the soul doesnt live on; in fact, nothing lives on, then what is resurrected?

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  ButtLight

  If you die, and your body disinegrates, and the soul doesnt live on; in fact, NOTHING lives on

  Of course, when I need it, I cant find my trusty old bible. But I know there is a scripture that says, when you die, your "spirit" returns to God, the one who created it.
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  You can call me Reverend Besty

  by besty in

  1. social
  2. humour

  since becoming disfellowshipped (wtf?

  ) back in july or whenever it was i've been fretting about not being an ordained minister.

  this was always important to me - to be an ordained minister is a valuable thing - thats why the jw's are proud to say they have 6.9m or so ordained ministers.

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  ButtLight

  meantime you can sign up yourself to be an Ordained Minister

  Does this mean we dont have to wear napkins on our heads anymore when we pray?
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  Have a sense of humour - giggling.

  by whyamihere in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so i was at the gym today(as always) speaking to the super moms(lol).

  they were all talking about nutrition and the value of a sensible diet.

  then they asked me what i consume daily, as i was going to give them thee ideal lie of what i "should" eat hence the word "eat" - i said this: my daily food groups include: coffee cigarettes, vodka and the morning after pill.. silence among the mini van driving crowd.. then i laughed and walked away fully knowing i will not be getting an invite to their next tupperware party - oh darn it all to heck.. people need to lighten up and take a joke, i still think it was funny!.

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  ButtLight

  Just ask Buttlight.

  Ummm, yeah. The first time I got together with her to take a road trip, I wanted to jump out of the car at 90 miles an hour! I didnt quite know how to take her "jokes" yet. She broke me in really fast!
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  ARE ANY OF THE ANOINTED FAKE?

  by badboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what do you think?

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  ButtLight

  It would really be interesting to know just how many did partake from 1935 till now!
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  Legally Funny...

  by Mastodon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  disorder in the courts...revisited... .

  these are from a book called disorder in the american courts and are things people actually said in court.

  taken down by court reporters who had the torment of staying calm while the exchanges were taking place.

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  ButtLight

  I've read this before, really got a kick out of it........this one especially!

  Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: Then, could it be possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy? WITNESS: No. ATTORNEY: How can you be sure? WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar. ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive anyway? WITNESS: Yes, it is possible he could have been alive and practicing law.......
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  My Life as a 'Famous' Jehovah's Witness

  by united states of nothing in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just let me start out by saying i am unable to give certain details of my life as i have learned very quickly this can cause a lot of problems.

  i was born into the 'truth' as my mother had been studying with a few sisters on and off at a local congregation.

  my father was never a jw and came in and out of my life for many years..to this day i do not give him much time.

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  ButtLight

  If he's not one of the ones we knew from American baseball (Chet Lemon, Lou Whitaker), then there should be no harm done. Seeing the guy is only 26, all he'd have to do is say "no that's not me" -- no harm, no foul.

  Thats true. I think he was run off by the rude comments more than anything else.......what a shame.......lately I've been noticing alot of newbies getting run off before they even get a foot in the door.