i stopped going to meetings at age 19 or 20. my brother had been df'd.
my sister and her new bethalite husband had left the organization labeled as apostates, and my single mom followed suit.
i was pretty much raised by the congregation, though i lived with my isolated mother.
Welcome achickwwit,
I left 20 years ago. I wouldn't say I chose to "block out" the life previously known as witness, as it was something I was always aware of as a reference in a way. I did choose to put much distance between it and myself and knew there was no going back. But the roots go deep and a few years ago I found it was time to do some digging.
nice username btw
it's only when i lose myself in someone else.
it's only when i lose myself in someone else.
it's only when i lose myself in someone else.
"Karma Police" - Radiohead
Karma police, arrest this man, he talks in maths
He buzzes like a fridge, hes like a detuned radio
Karma police, arrest this girl, her hitler hairdo, is making me feel ill
And we have crashed her party
This is what you get, this is what you get
This is what you get, when you mess with us
Karma police, Ive given all I can, its not enough
Ive given all I can, but were still on the payroll
This is what you get, this is what you get
This is what you get, when you mess with us
And for a minute there, I lost myself, I lost myself
And for a minute there, I lost myself, I lost myself
For a minute there, I lost myself, I lost myself
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we had a thread yesterday about how many years we spent in the wts, so let's total up how many years it is since we lef or, if you are fading, since you last attended a meeting.. it's just over a year since i last went, and almost 7 since my bf last went, so our total is 8 years.. feel free to add your years out.
20 years ago here
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i'm thinkinf of taking up kendo...... but lots of people have been advising karate, taekwondo, jujitsu, judo and aikido to me.... does anyone on this board do any of the oriental martial arts?
any suggestions on the benefits and disadvantages of the martial arts?
Tai chi short form is excellent as a fitness regimen and is kinda like meditation for the body as well as the mind. The principles of balance and directing energy in "slow motion" kinda appeals to me.
I dabbled a bit in hapkido as well with an emphasis on self defense techniques; grappling with a lot of traps and joint manipulation. It doesn't require a lot of strength to take down someone if you grab them the right way or know how to react to how they grab you. And the end result can be rather crippling.
birth - 6 y.o.
: john denver, waylon jennings(dukes of hazzard theme song), etc.... 6 y.o.
: (started grade school... heard new stuff) joan jett & the blackhearts, & (can't remember the artist but the song was:) pac-man fever... and so on... 9 - 10 y.o.
Cool thread
< 10 - parental control
10 - 15 The Beatles, Trooper, Harlequin, Streetheart, Rush, Saga, misc classic rock
15 - 20 Hendrix, Cream, Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, Clapton, other 60s/70s artists
20 - 25 Metallica, White Zombie, Jane's Addiction, Joe Satriani, U2
25 - 30 NIN, Pop Will Eat Itself, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, STP, Rage, RHCP
30ish - now Sasha & Digweed, Paul Oakenfeld, Junkie XL, Tricky, TransGlobal Underground, various breakbeat, house, dub, ambient artists
'course, the lines between are somewhat blurred
;-)
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=1fc14d98-a417-4b8c-8045-62bab72f65d4&k=13199
canwest news service.
published: monday, september 04, 2006 article tools.
I watched a local news program on this case just now. They have an online poll.
Do you think the courts have the right to impose blood transfusion or other medical treatments on a child?
winnipeg girl in court to fight blood transfusions last updated: thursday, september 7, 2006 | 8:49 am ct
cbc news
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2006/09/07/jw-crohns.html
I watched a local news program on this case just now. They have an online poll.
Do you think the courts have the right to impose blood transfusion or other medical treatments on a child?
apparently, this is on ctv news tonight.
i'll give an update after i watch it... .
http://www.news1130.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n090780a.
I watched this program just now. They have an online poll.
Do you think the courts have the right to impose blood transfusion or other medical treatments on a child?
weighing the decisions
having spent a number of years in the organization and the opportunity to.
marry in the "truth" there was this reluctance to do so.
I agree with CountryGirl and Good Girl Bad Girl on this one. I think much depends on the person and how they deal with this particular issue. True, there is a lot to be said for being understood on this level and you won't find it anywhere else. Could be a source of strength and support. Then again, there is something to be said for making a fresh start and not being reminded of it. Depending on the level of involvement and time in the org, as well as how long they've been out, xdub related baggage in a potential partner may well be an issue and not just in the other person, mind you. Consider as well that this is not exclusive to xdubs; you're gonna find it just as much with those who've no idea what dub is, just a different mix of issues. And a different mix of viewpoints and strengths. Again, it all depends on you, the other person and what you want in a relationship. But there's only one way to find out if xdub partner is for you, no?
I came to the conclusion that our major bond was our jw past (left the dubs together). You need more than that for a relationship. If the only thing you have in common is being an xjw then I would not pursue it.
That's some good advice, unbeliever. Though I think there are benefits to having the common background and understanding certain things no one else will, there is danger in it blinding you to the realities of who that person actually is and whether or not you are compatible. Things can become very confusing very fast and you stand to get hurt pretty easily. That being said, I'm sure there are many xdub that have met and make it work. But not just because they're xdubs I'm sure; you gotta have more than that.
On a personal note, I remember back when i was leaving the org of how cool it would be to meet another "rebel" who could understand this thing I was going through. I had that "dream" for a time after leaving and a few years later, it came true, only it was a nightmare, lol. Messed me up for some time and I wasn't the only one she played. Careful what you wish for, it may come true,....lol.Look for someone who is interesting in moving forward, not looking back whether they are xdub or not. And for who they are, not who they've been.
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i went to my last meeting.
since then i've been through all the stages of grief, have a new family, two more babies, a spouse now in remission, had many ups and downs, and more contentment and self-respect than i ever had bgo (before getting out).. .
more contentment and self-respect than I ever had
most excellent
Happy anniversary!
