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  Why aren't you an Atheist?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  long time lurker, first time poster.. .

  i'm an ms (accounts servant) in a large congregation in canada.

  over the last several years i've faught a hard-won battle to rid my mind of all religous and supernatural beleifs.

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  As for the OP, the same line of reasoning lead me to atheism. The questions asked of the JW faith and god weren't answered by another. Seemed too close to a compromise of logic and purpose, an easy way to settle for something familiar and comfortable rather than commit to the reasoning and search that began the exit.

  That being said, I think there's no definite way to prove/disprove god. I don't find it uncomfortable to contemplate Spinoza's version or the ideas offered by eastern beliefs, what I know of them.
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  My brother died tonight

  by poppers in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just got word that my youngest brother died of pancreatic cancer.

  he was diagnosed in early august.

  this has been really tough for me and my family..

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  Sorry for your loss. I wish you and yours strength in this difficult time.
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  How does one go about dating after leaving the WT?

  by Left in the Cold in

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  I dated a xjw girl once. She said it was the blind leading the blind and she was right to a large degree. I've had much better relationships with women who have no religious background. Your mileage may vary.
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses and Firearms – Overlooked History

  by Jaime l de Aragon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  august 20, 1940: author cox was arrested and charged with the murder of deputy sheriff dean pray.

  cox had been actively working in association with watchtower for 33 years prior, and had been assigned at the time by watchtower to the portland, maine congregation of jehovahs witnesses.

  cox carried credentials issued by watchtowers president, j. f. rutherford.

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  Twitch

  So? One incident over 70 yrs old.

  Does the OP have a point?
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  This must be true because nothing else fits

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so elder x came over the other day to convince me about why jehovah's witnesses have 1914 correct.

  i wrote about this some time ago, but the elder never returned.

  he caught me off-guard, and unprepared.. he went through the reasoning book (p95), and pointed out all the reaons (day for a year, daniel, 360 days, 2520 ...).

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  Twitch

  Eh, I've no desire to debate; it's just an opinion as the majority of apologist true believers have no interest in listening anyways. At the very least, it benefits doubtful lurkers

  As for this one, if you can make horses drink, carry on.
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  This must be true because nothing else fits

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so elder x came over the other day to convince me about why jehovah's witnesses have 1914 correct.

  i wrote about this some time ago, but the elder never returned.

  he caught me off-guard, and unprepared.. he went through the reasoning book (p95), and pointed out all the reaons (day for a year, daniel, 360 days, 2520 ...).

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  Well have fun following your imperfect organization and it's publications.
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  This must be true because nothing else fits

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so elder x came over the other day to convince me about why jehovah's witnesses have 1914 correct.

  i wrote about this some time ago, but the elder never returned.

  he caught me off-guard, and unprepared.. he went through the reasoning book (p95), and pointed out all the reaons (day for a year, daniel, 360 days, 2520 ...).

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  Twitch

  The organization has many flaws, but don't allow yourself to be mislead out of it so easily.

  If the "organization" is directed by god and is the "truth", how can it have flaws?
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  buddy system??

  by grumblecakes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i searched to see if there was already a thread on this but didnt see one.... .

  i was thinking about this weird-a@# struggle we have all found ourselves in and one of the worst things about it is not having a soul in the world to talk to.

  we find ourselves isolated from those who know us best, those we've loved dearly and the new people we surround ourselves with could never begin to understand (non-jws).

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  If you want to be understood as a jw, then your best chances are online, by either post or pm. Not many people in everyday life have an idea or want to know.

  In time, your wish to be understood as a former jw will give way to being understood as everyday joe/joanne.Then the former won't matter as much as it does now.

  As for some formal method of support aka the buddy system, I dunno. Roll the dice.

  0.02

  PS Steve2 does make some good points.
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  Did Abraham Have Schizophrenia? Hearing A Voice Telling Him To Sacrifice Isaac?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well if someone came to you saying they were going to sacrifice one of thier children to god because god spoke to them telling them to do so what would you conclude?

  would you tell him to be faithfull to the voice and do it so they can become god's friend like abraham was?.

  http://www.voiceofdharma.org/books/pp/ch2.htm.

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  From the Psych Today article Sizmik linked to, the following are the benefits of one person who hears voices;

  • Helping her assess people. Reid says her voices can accurately judge a person's character, which has been essential to starting and ending romantic relationships .
  • Reducing anxiety. She often becomes nervous before speaking at conferences. Her voices force her to breathe and to relax.
  • Providing entertainment. Her voices have different personalities, and Reid enjoys listening to them argue with one another. Sometimes she laughs out loud at their snide comments and running commentary on the outside world.
  • Helping make decisions. Reid says they analyze her options and advise her after reaching "group decisions."
  • Encouraging spirituality . The voices provide a moral compass and warn her when actions may harm her or others.

  My first thoughts here are that everything this woman says her voices "do" for her are things everyone does internally whether be it a decision making thought process, self assurance or matters of conscience. Perhaps such people just have the transmit gain in their head cranked up to 11 and the mind creates a voice where most just think. Perhaps it's really all just the same thing and the diff is just a matter of degree.

  It was also interesting to note from the article that the majority experienced their voices after severe trauma. Sounds like a defense mechanism the mind may create to survive/deal with the effects.
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  Did Abraham Have Schizophrenia? Hearing A Voice Telling Him To Sacrifice Isaac?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well if someone came to you saying they were going to sacrifice one of thier children to god because god spoke to them telling them to do so what would you conclude?

  would you tell him to be faithfull to the voice and do it so they can become god's friend like abraham was?.

  http://www.voiceofdharma.org/books/pp/ch2.htm.

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  Who decides if the voice you hear is your own mind or god?

  What if there's more than one?