Posts by Twitch

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Connections: remarkable sounds of the past, still seen, reproducible and tsunamis

by prologos in

just venting:.

there are a string of news items that come together in my mind to help me visualize what happened by way of connections.. the news of the inflationary stage of the early universe triggering gravity waves, that appear in our sensors like a pattern against the background.. the sale of the stradivarius viola still making unsurpassed glorious sounds after 300 years and going for 45 kk.

inflation?.

Twitch

twich, we had a math/phys teacher in high school that always started to TWICH when confronted with an out-of-the-box - thinking type argument, and at least one of us kids were from Physics - Nobel-Laureat families, just itching to get him twitching

You knew a teacher with a tic and someone who had a famous relative who could actually prove something. This doesn't make you right in this or anything for that matter.

Had you taken a course in critical thinking, you would have learned what you just wrote is a ad hominem, which doesn't help your case and in fact, proves your inability to back up your claims.

It could just be that prologos looked at the tides and said "standing wave" as in lenticular clouds [surfed by sail planes] waves in RAPIDS [surfed by surfers, cayakers]

I'm sure he did and thought he was an expert in such things.

As I requested, please advise on the force in oppostion to gravity that results in a standing wave that causes tides.

another case of WIKI waiting to be amended.

I eagerly await your foray into amending the incorrect info written and it's acceptance by established experts on the subject.

proof? look at the tide coming in: a wave always linked to the Moon, just ~standing there.

I considered what you call proof. Then I consulted widely accepted facts written by those who may have won Nobel prizes in science. I'll go with their explanation, which again, makes no mention of standing waves.

That you cannot provide evidence of your assertions and resort to ad hominem is proof of your misinterpretation and wilful ignorance of established science.

Sad, really

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Connections: remarkable sounds of the past, still seen, reproducible and tsunamis

by prologos in

just venting:.

there are a string of news items that come together in my mind to help me visualize what happened by way of connections.. the news of the inflationary stage of the early universe triggering gravity waves, that appear in our sensors like a pattern against the background.. the sale of the stradivarius viola still making unsurpassed glorious sounds after 300 years and going for 45 kk.

inflation?.

Twitch

citation by prologos. argument too.

Your opinion does not constitute proof. Please provide evidence published and agreed upon by established experts in the field

twich, are the white-water waves in the Colorado, the lenticular clouds over New Zealand not standing waves? recognized as such?

standing waves in moving medium, fluids, caused by a ~ fixed stony obstacle, phenomenon.

Yes there is evidence of this, two opposing waves that under specific circumstances create a stationary wave interference pattern, albeit a temporary one. However, this is not listed as a cause of global tides

By defenition the 2 tidal bulges are permanently lifted section both water and crust, of the moving planet's surface that

are produced by the increased gravity force, acceleration toward the moon.

This is correct, tides are caused by gravity.

What is the opposing force to gravity that creates the standing wave in this instance?

what interesting interferences might be discovered in the wave patterns revealed in the BICEPS research? expansion of space, energy, matter? moving faster than light?

beating the Colorado and wind over NZ by a wide speed margin.

This remains to be seen but your conjecture does not constitute proof of anything more than your imagination and wilful ignorance of accepted science.

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Connections: remarkable sounds of the past, still seen, reproducible and tsunamis

by prologos in

just venting:.

there are a string of news items that come together in my mind to help me visualize what happened by way of connections.. the news of the inflationary stage of the early universe triggering gravity waves, that appear in our sensors like a pattern against the background.. the sale of the stradivarius viola still making unsurpassed glorious sounds after 300 years and going for 45 kk.

inflation?.

Twitch

The Tides ARE standing waves. The two bulges ALWAYS remain ~STANDING under the advancing moon, lifted by it's gravity for the close one, and lifted by centrifugal force and least Moon-effect for the FAR one.

that is not the accepted definiton of a standing wave, according to what I learned in college physics and from a bit of research into the topic with respect to tides

Two opposing waves combine to form a standing wave.
This phenomenon can occur because the medium is moving in the opposite direction to the wave, or it can arise in a stationary medium as a result of interference between two waves traveling in opposite directions. In the second case, for waves of equal amplitude traveling in opposing directions, there is on average no net propagation of energy.

In a resonator, standing waves occur during the phenomenon known as resonance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave

There is no mention of this effect with respect to gravity's pull on water on the earth

better minds then mine stand by it.

then please provide citations that back up your assertion

twitch, of course it could be argued that gravity is another form of acceleration, and that the peculiar shape of the gravity gradient under the MOON +or- the solar presence, is an accelration that is stationary under the moon, and it is this acceleration that is perceived as moving, a lifting seen as tides., because -- 'as the world turns'.

It's not argued, it's established and accepted fact by minds greater than mine, to which I provided evidence.

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Connections: remarkable sounds of the past, still seen, reproducible and tsunamis

by prologos in

just venting:.

there are a string of news items that come together in my mind to help me visualize what happened by way of connections.. the news of the inflationary stage of the early universe triggering gravity waves, that appear in our sensors like a pattern against the background.. the sale of the stradivarius viola still making unsurpassed glorious sounds after 300 years and going for 45 kk.

inflation?.

Twitch

Well, prologos was completely wrong regarding tides occuring as a result of standing waves i.e. constructive/destructive wave interference. The fact there was no evidence provided to back up the assertion and that the incorrect terminology, understanding and inability to reexamine his position was rather telling. This precedent should be considered in subsequent claims of "understanding" and "education"

As for this topic, clearly there is resonance in musical instruments and a correlation to standing wave theory is valid.

So, 1 for 2 on specific examples. As for the new age woo, let the buyer beware...

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The Birth of the Universe - Scientific Breakthrough

by cofty in

researchers working with a telescope at the south pole beleive they have glimpsed light from the first "trillionth of a trillionth of a tillionth" of a second after the big bang.. a lot of work has still to be done to confirm the findings, but if it holds up it is one of the biggest discoveries ever.. _________________________________________.

...inflation came with a very specific prediction - that it would be associated with waves of gravitational energy, and that these ripples in the fabric of space would leave an indelible mark on the oldest light in the sky - the famous cosmic microwave background.. the bicep2 team says it has now identified that signal.

scientists call it b-mode polarisation.

Twitch

The lunar gravity differential field at the Earth's surface is known as the tide-generating force. This is the primary mechanism that drives tidal action and explains two equipotential tidal bulges, accounting for two daily high waters.
The tidal force produced by a massive object (Moon, hereafter) on a small particle located on or in an extensive body (Earth, hereafter) is the vector difference between the gravitational force exerted by the Moon on the particle, and the gravitational force that would be exerted on the particle if it were located at the Earth's center of mass. The solar gravitational force on the Earth is on average 179 times stronger than the lunar, but because the Sun is on average 389 times farther from the Earth, its field gradient is weaker. The solar tidal force is 46% as large as the lunar. [28]

The ocean's surface is closely approximated by an equipotential surface, (ignoring ocean currents) commonly referred to as the geoid. Since the gravitational force is equal to the potential's gradient, there are no tangential forces on such a surface, and the ocean surface is thus in gravitational equilibrium. Now consider the effect of massive external bodies such as the Moon and Sun. These bodies have strong gravitational fields that diminish with distance in space and which act to alter the shape of an equipotential surface on the Earth. This deformation has a fixed spatial orientation relative to the influencing body. The Earth's rotation relative to this shape causes the daily tidal cycle. Gravitational forces follow an inverse-square law (force is inversely proportional to the square of the distance), but tidal forces are inversely proportional to the cube of the distance. The ocean surface moves because of the changing tidal equipotential, rising when the tidal potential is high, which occurs on the parts of the Earth nearest to and furthest from the Moon. When the tidal equipotential changes, the ocean surface is no longer aligned with it, so the apparent direction of the vertical shifts. The surface then experiences a down slope, in the direction that the equipotential has risen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide#Forces

Tides are a function of gravity.

There is no mention of standing wave phenonmena with regard to forces that cause tides.

There is mention of standing waves in areas due to tidal and other currents interfering but this is dependant on localized features, and is not a global cause or effect.

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Physics: What are your thoughts on life in the 4th,5th,and higher dimensions?

by EndofMysteries in

jw
friends

if you do a little research there are many physics forums, discussions, and books about this.

it's a bit challenging to grasp but it's very interesting.

if there is life on this higher dimensions, they could see us yet we would be unable to see them.

Twitch

classic

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What is definition of a true friend, once outside the cult?

by suavojr in

jw
friends

after leaving the cult of jw's or waking up to ttatt, it is a struggle to trust people again.

i am personally starting from scratch although i am still in.

each moment i spend with my current jw friends, i know they are all smiles and loving towards me because of my good status with the wt.. outside a cult you still find fake people and it is also a struggle to find true friends and it is even worst when we've been hit hard from people we used to trust and care for.. .

Twitch

True friends are like diamonds as they say

No less true no matter the company you choose to keep

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Physics: What are your thoughts on life in the 4th,5th,and higher dimensions?

by EndofMysteries in

jw
friends

if you do a little research there are many physics forums, discussions, and books about this.

it's a bit challenging to grasp but it's very interesting.

if there is life on this higher dimensions, they could see us yet we would be unable to see them.

Twitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqcoh4bHOho

A bit about branes begins at 3:50 but it just touches on the subject and elements of string theory here and there.

A great series overall

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Is there anything you could do forever that wouln't get boring?

by mynameislame in

not sure when i came to this conclusion but i can't imagine living forever.

after a while i think i would be completly bored with everything.. not saying i wouln't like to live for a few hundred years or maybe even a few thousand if i could travel through space and discover other universes star trek style.

but the thought of living forever sounds like it would eventually become a complete drag.. maybe i'm wrong, maybe after a thousand years or so you would foregt all the stuff that happend at the beginning and just start over in an infinite loop..

Twitch

Even if I could live forever I still wouldn't understand women, but I doubt it would ever get boring ;)

Forever is a long time. I'd give it a shot. As has been said, there is much to learn and forgetting, human.

But in the long run, the likelihood of a malicious, accidental or tsunami induced death makes forever seem improbable. This assumes a less than perfect world, which isn't a stretch. To think otherwise seems fanciful...

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The Birth of the Universe - Scientific Breakthrough

by cofty in

researchers working with a telescope at the south pole beleive they have glimpsed light from the first "trillionth of a trillionth of a tillionth" of a second after the big bang.. a lot of work has still to be done to confirm the findings, but if it holds up it is one of the biggest discoveries ever.. _________________________________________.

...inflation came with a very specific prediction - that it would be associated with waves of gravitational energy, and that these ripples in the fabric of space would leave an indelible mark on the oldest light in the sky - the famous cosmic microwave background.. the bicep2 team says it has now identified that signal.

scientists call it b-mode polarisation.

Twitch

The Universe is commonly defined as the totality of existence, [1] [2] [3] [4] includingplanets, stars, galaxies, the contents of intergalactic space, the smallest subatomic particles, and all matter and energy. [5] [6] Similar terms include the cosmos, the world,reality, and nature.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe

seems pretty modern and global to me

if something is known to exist, it is part of the universe by definition