according to plato, the universe thrives on its own, dies and gets rebornall on its own and within itself.
the wise symbolized this concept in ouroboros, a serpent eating its own tail.
[even more wonderful is the marvel called a fruit-bearing treeit does not even eat its own fruit, but simply subsists on mostly what we may consider as dirt/refuse; and trees collectively perform yet another marvel of photosynthesis that make use of our wastes and give us oxygen, food, water, shelter, fiber..........................................[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/opinion/to-save-the-planet-dont-plant-trees.html?_r=0].
A point if you will; reading peoples opinions/beliefs doesn't entail you to believe their viewpoint. It's your choice to read and take offense, to give it credit and engage. If you take offense at every belief/opinion that opposes yours, you'll never be at peace cos there'll always be another opinion. And of course this is only my opinion, take or leave it; I don't really care ;)
As for Plato, some interesting classical philosophy but much has been learned since then
"stay alive till '75.
" remember that?
note: this is the year 5774 not 2014. why didn't they tell you that in 5735 (1975 ad?
Man, that is some funny shite. So out of the box there isn't a box to be seen. This kind of belief isn't due to drugs (and I should know) this takes work and dedication. Kudos to you John for the craziest theory I've read here in a long time.
But seriously, get some help.
let us be thankful to jws for having resisted our free-thinking.
what is resisted persists and becomes even stronger.
i pray that jws continue this habit of theirs with more vigor so that more and more free-thinkers come out!.
You gotta be kidding me
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ezml23.
i happened to stumble upon this.
it contains every wt publication as individual web pages.
*eye twitches"
do you check this site, daily?.
do you post very much?.
.
Yea I check the site daily, mostly for general interest topics but I don't post as much as I used to. I've pretty much resolved the god question for myself and have no interest in current org doctrines or biblical research and interpretation.
I do like reading people's experiences with respect to "waking up"
I sometimes like playing "whack-a-troll". A guilty little pleasure from time to time ;)
hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .
recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .
but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.
Need help with the door?
it appears that many of the best music threads have been purged.
i can't imagine the formula that would eliminate such wonderousness while preserving "involuntary muscular contractions", but so it is.. the first offering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh2vh8jwyqa.
ahh Primus. Been a long time since I sailed the seas of cheese. I wonder if Les Claypool has finished his tour of our fine planet.
hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .
recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .
but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.
Good link, Para
Lifton's definitions were proverbial nails in the coffin for any residual doubts about the org. Mainly because they weren't specifically aimed at the jw world and thus didn't have a bias or motive yet completely encompass the microcosm that it is.
I've never read Hassan's books though I hear they're good ;)
leaving the watchtower does not mean leaving god.
many here have been able to maintain a relationship with god without the need for a set of beliefs or a creed or any organised system of worship at all.
no churches, meeting halls or study groups are necessary just a deeply held conviction in the goodness of god and the value of a personal relationship with him.. such believers often stress 'spirituality' over religion.. now i don't mean to denigrate anyone's beliefs and no offence is intended but really, is a 'spiritual' approach to life any better for our mental and emotional well-being than being part of an organised religion?
BTTT
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2006/109/spirit-rock-growth.htm.
sometimes it seems like the really cool stuff on mars is always in the distance.
maybe martian celts built it.
Well played Terry, well played...
