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acadian
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Do you think the world will end soon. If so, when?
by Rod P inpredictions for the end of the world have been going on since the time of christ, and in every century since then.
during the past 100 years there have been more predictions for the end of the world than have been made in all the previous centuries combined.
many of these prophesied dates have since come and gone.. people look around and see the possibility of many different natural or man-made disasters by which the end could come.
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When you left the JW's, did you keep all your books & magazines?
by Rod P ini had a collection of older publications almost second to none.
along with the 30-year publications index, i felt invincible in the research department.. then i got disfellowshipped and divorced, and my ex kept them all.
" i couldn't tell her "for research" because that would have sounded like i was going to write a book exposing jw's, which would have made things even worse.
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Hello all, I have an extensive library, My wife and I used to care for an older brother, and when he died
he willed alot of his stuff to us which included an extensive WT library from the beginning.
As far as having mags on hand, that's fire starter.
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"If you live below your means, you'll have the means to live." -
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Are things really that bad?
by gringojj ini was just reading a post from someone and it said that the world is a paradise now, we just have to accept it.
it made me think, the jws are always saying how bad things are now and that they are just getting worse.
so im wondering, are things really that bad?
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Man, for a minute I thought I was in ...
Now let's hear some views from our friends in countries not so fortunate ...
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Un-scriptural & Non-biblical JW terms
by ljwtiamb inafter a recent 'spiritual' discussion with a relative, it hit me that so much of the jw terminology is not to be found anywhere in the bible or, at best is taken totally out of context.
yet, it's by these terms & titles that jws approve and condemn each other, the entire world, and worse believe that god even cares!.
i can just imagine someone at the pearly gates, explaining to peter: 'yeah, but i was a "pioneer!".
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When I first started studying, the person I studied with, ( who claimed to be of the "Anointed") used terms such as "Scum of the earth, or "Scum-bags" or other such terms to discribe "Worldly people.
That always turned me off, Hey, what did I know, he was the one who had the "Truth"...Yeah right!
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A BIBLE STUDY CONCERNING A GOD-GIVEN PLANT
by acadian in1 timothy 4:1-4. the new american standard translation.
4:4 for everything created by god is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude; .
1 timothy 4:1-4. the authorized version.
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acadian
Thanks everybody who participated in this post!
Ohiocowboy, you got the point that I was trying to make, that God gave man the right to use or not, as it was given to us. It?s our God given Individual right to partake of anything God has provided us!?:
Ohiocowboy:
?We were given these things including marijuana to eat. It is then up to us to decide whether we want to eat it or not, but the option is there, as it was given to us.?
Genesis 1:29-31
29 And God went on to say: ?Here I have given to YOU all vegetation bearing seed which is on the surface of the whole earth and every tree on which there is the fruit of a tree bearing seed. To YOU let it serve as food. 30 And to every wild beast of the earth and to every flying creature of the heavens and to everything moving upon the earth in which there is life as a soul I have given all green vegetation for food.? And it came to be so.
31 After that God saw everything he had made and, look! [it was] very good. And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a sixth day.
Just for clarification I found this study on the net, it was interesting and thought provoking, and looking at it with the perspective, that, how can man prohibit anything God has said is good, what right do I have telling you what to eat or what form of medical treatment you should receive or what form of medicine you use whether Herbal or Pharmaceutical. No that?s not my right?is it your?s?
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A BIBLE STUDY CONCERNING A GOD-GIVEN PLANT
by acadian in1 timothy 4:1-4. the new american standard translation.
4:4 for everything created by god is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude; .
1 timothy 4:1-4. the authorized version.
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P.S.
Notice, the only condition placed on the use of this God-given plant is that it be received with gratitude. 1 Tim 4:4 "For everything created by God is good and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude." If you would like to see grateful people, you will find them wherever marijuana has reduced pain, cured blindness, whose tumors have disappeared, whose depression is vanquished, or have just gathered in happiness to share each other's loving company. Jesus said; "by this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love one for another", (John 13:35).
OH, if you havn't noticed this study is not talking about smoking, but eating.
c'mon people, if your going to comment at least use some grey-matter...
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A BIBLE STUDY CONCERNING A GOD-GIVEN PLANT
by acadian in1 timothy 4:1-4. the new american standard translation.
4:4 for everything created by god is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude; .
1 timothy 4:1-4. the authorized version.
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It's funny the comments about this study seem to show those commenting either are ignorant or haven't read the study.
Biblically marijuana is a seed-bearing plant. Botanically marijuana it is a herbaceous annual plant. Botanically and scripturally marijuana is a herb, a food. It is one of the finest of foods. Of all the plants in the world the seed of marijuana is second in protein only to soy beans. Marijuana seeds are the only food that provides essential amino acids and essential fatty acids in the ratio that is optimal for the human body. Humans can and have survived in robust health by eating marijuana seeds. The oil that is pressed from the seed has more polyunsaturated essential fatty acids than any other known oil.
Due to the current ungodly prohibition eating marijuana is not economical, it is prohibitively expensive. If it could be legally grown in a garden, and it is easily grown in the poorest of soils, this God-given food and medicine would be readily available and inexpensive. Any hungry or sick and suffering person that could benefit from it would benefit from it without paying either the exorbitant prices caused by its illegality or caused by pharmaceutical company profits. Pharmaceutical companies have not been able to reproduce the divinely complex chemistry of this holy herb. Drug companies ask astronomical prices for a largely ineffective artificial substitute. -
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A BIBLE STUDY CONCERNING A GOD-GIVEN PLANT
by acadian in1 timothy 4:1-4. the new american standard translation.
4:4 for everything created by god is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude; .
1 timothy 4:1-4. the authorized version.
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I belong to God, and no one else, and have you ever heard of balance? Kind Regards Acadian
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A BIBLE STUDY CONCERNING A GOD-GIVEN PLANT
by acadian in1 timothy 4:1-4. the new american standard translation.
4:4 for everything created by god is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude; .
1 timothy 4:1-4. the authorized version.
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A BIBLE STUDY CONCERNING A GOD-GIVEN PLANT MARIJUANA.
Rather than rely on a single text and pretend to defend it as the one true Bible, two different, widely available, and respected Bibles are used to show that the conclusions reached are not a fluke of some spurious translation.
The selection of these versions is arbitrary. Any scholarly study/chain link Bible can be used to reach exactly the same conclusions. These Bible translations were separated by 76 years of intense scholarly research and produced by two independent groups. The two Bibles used for this study are:
The Authorized (King James) Version. Using The Scofield Reference Bible, Copyright 1900,1917 by the Oxford University Press.
The New American Standard Translation. Using the Ryrie Study Bible, Copyright 1976, 1978 by The Moody Bible Institute of Chicago.
Old and New Testament verses are used to show continuity in God's treatment of marijuana. God's mind has not changed.
Primary Old Testament verse is Genesis 1:29. This verse will show us God's intent for all seed-bearing plants, which includes marijuana. Primary New Testament verses are 1 Timothy 4:1-4. These verses show God's contempt and condemnation for those people who are opposed to marijuana in any way.
It is appropriate for us to review these verses in their entirety. For convenience they are reproduced here:
Genesis 1:29. The New American Standard Translation.
Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you."
Genesis 1:29. The Authorized Version.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
1 Timothy 4:1-4. The New American Standard Translation.
4:1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,
4:2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron,
4:3 men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods, which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth.
4:4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude;
1 Timothy 4:1-4. The Authorized Version.
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
The Bible speaks for itself. It clearly says that God created marijuana for our use and says terrible things about those who seek to command abstinence or advocate abstaining from plants which God has created. Criminal sanctions command abstinence and are extreme examples of advocating abstinence.
Let's step back for a moment and consider several reasonable questions as to whether or not these verses apply to the current situation.
Does Genesis 1:29 apply?
Yes. It reveals God's will for all seed-bearing plants. Marijuana is a seed-bearing plant. This is so important that God put it in the very first chapter of the very first book of the Bible.
Do 1Timothy 4:1-4 apply?
Yes. 1 Tim 4:1 Tells us that these verses are a prediction of future events that will happen in later times. Since 1 Timothy was written about two thousand years ago we are certainly living at a later time. (It is beyond the focus of this study, but many Bible students consider this to also be an end times prophecy. If this is so, it may mean that false teachers are running out of time to repent.)
The linkage of these Old and New Testament passages is not out of context. At 1Tim 4:3 the Ryrie study Bible specifically links to Gen. 1:29. Closely observe that in the Authorized Version the word "meat" is used in both the New and Old testament verses, and that the word "food" is used in both passages in the New American Standard Translation. 1Tim4:3 inexorably locks these verses together.
FOOD a word in Gen1:29 worthy of amplification.
Biblically marijuana is a seed-bearing plant. Botanically marijuana it is a herbaceous annual plant. Botanically and scripturally marijuana is a herb, a food. It is one of the finest of foods. Of all the plants in the world the seed of marijuana is second in protein only to soy beans. Marijuana seeds are the only food that provides essential amino acids and essential fatty acids in the ratio that is optimal for the human body. Humans can and have survived in robust health by eating marijuana seeds. The oil that is pressed from the seed has more polyunsaturated essential fatty acids than any other known oil.
Due to the current ungodly prohibition eating marijuana is not economical, it is prohibitively expensive. If it could be legally grown in a garden, and it is easily grown in the poorest of soils, this God-given food and medicine would be readily available and inexpensive. Any hungry or sick and suffering person that could benefit from it would benefit from it without paying either the exorbitant prices caused by its illegality or caused by pharmaceutical company profits. Pharmaceutical companies have not been able to reproduce the divinely complex chemistry of this holy herb. Drug companies ask astronomical prices for a largely ineffective artificial substitute. Jesus said, "You can not serve God and mammon", (Mat 6:24). Mammon is money. The mammon in marijuana prohibition is greed and profit.
Notice, the only condition placed on the use of this God-given plant is that it be received with gratitude. 1 Tim 4:4 "For everything created by God is good and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude." If you would like to see grateful people, you will find them wherever marijuana has reduced pain, cured blindness, whose tumors have disappeared, whose depression is vanquished, or have just gathered in happiness to share each other's loving company. Jesus said; "by this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love one for another", (John 13:35). Jesus says it is OK to gather in large, loving groups.
Contrary to the contention, "it does not say it is OK to consume it (marijuana) anywhere in scripture". Again review 1Tim4:4. "For everything created by God is good and nothing is to be rejected." This says it is OK, it is good and is not to be rejected.
There are dozen's, if not hundred's, of references from prestigious scientific and medical researchers that prove this God given plant is good for you. Several marijuana cookbooks are in print. There is a considerable amount of additional information on its nutritional value. If you would like references to any of this material, it will be sent to you.
It's time to finish this study with a parting thought. Jesus said " You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free",(John 8:32). It is the intent of this study to assist our walk along the path of truth and freedom.
Side note: Some may feel that partaking of this Holy herb will defile you, well consider this?
Matthew 15:1-11 (NWT)
15 Then there came to Jesus from Jerusalem Pharisees and scribes, saying: 2 ?Why is it your disciples overstep the tradition of the men of former times? For example, they do not wash their hands when about to eat a meal.?
3 In reply he said to them: ?Why is it YOU also overstep the commandment of God because of YOUR tradition? 4 For example, God said, ?Honor your father and your mother?; and, ?Let him that reviles father or mother end up in death.? 5 But YOU say, ?Whoever says to his father or mother: ?Whatever I have by which you might get benefit from me is a gift dedicated to God,? 6 he must not honor his father at all.? And so YOU have made the word of God invalid because of YOUR tradition. 7 YOU hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about YOU, when he said, 8 ?This people honors me with their lips, yet their heart is far removed from me. 9 It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.?? 10 With that he called the crowd near and said to them: ?Listen and get the sense of it: 11 Not what enters into [his] mouth defiles a man; but it is what proceeds out of [his] mouth that defiles a man.?
Matthew 15:15-20 (NWT)
15 By way of response Peter said to him: ?Make the illustration plain to us.? 16 At this he said: ?Are YOU also yet without understanding? 17 Are YOU not aware that everything entering into the mouth passes along into the intestines and is discharged into the sewer? 18 However, the things proceeding out of the mouth come out of the heart, and those things defile a man. 19 For example, out of the heart come wicked reasonings, murders, adulteries, fornications, thieveries, false testimonies, blasphemies. 20 These are the things defiling a man.
Until next time, be Kind !
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It's all designed too mess with your head... is it working?...gooood! Just sit back and relax... we're in control... Sincerely The Bro's at the WTS