Posts by Lot

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help

by Lot in

jw
friends

this is my first post of any significance and if i seem to ramble at times please forgive me.

i have alot to say and i don't know how much of it will make sense.. .

i need help in trying to figure out how to get out of "the truth".

Thanks so much for the advice and encouragement. Some were especially helpful. One thing I have to say is that thankfully my marriage was not based on "theocratic principles". We didnt get married because we had the same spiritual goals or anything like that. Of course, neither of us at the time would have looked outside of the WTS for a marriage partner, but we married because we loved each other; plain and simple.

I have read CoC already and while my wife wouldnt read it she listened with interest as I related much of the book to her. She's not ready to leave; I am, but I could never leave without her. The reason being that she would go through too much agony at the hall from the "friends" because of her crazy husband. I could never put her through that.

Its comforting to know that I am not alone in this although there is no easy answer. My struggle will be to continue on until she is ready to leave and in the process put into action some of the strategies that you have mentioned. Some said to be true to myself. That is a noble and sound suggestion, but you must realize that there would be no me without my wife. I don't mean to gross anyone out with too much mush, but for me that is the truth. I realize everyone's circumstances are different and I dont mean to criticize anyone else's decisions that they have had to make. I am only telling my story.

I would appreciate any furhter comments any have to make,

Thank you so much,

Lot

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help

by Lot in

jw
friends

this is my first post of any significance and if i seem to ramble at times please forgive me.

i have alot to say and i don't know how much of it will make sense.. .

i need help in trying to figure out how to get out of "the truth".

Lot

This is my first post of any significance and if I seem to ramble at times please forgive me. I have alot to say and I don't know how much of it will make sense.

I need help in trying to figure out how to get out of "the truth". You may think that is easy, but my problem is that I'm married to the most wonderful person in the world and I love her very much. She also is a witness. And though we've had many talks about leaving, she can't bring herself to that point. Deep down I think she knows that it is bogus, but she was raised a witness. Her whole family are witnesses including her father who is "one of the annointed" and went to prison for two years for his beliefs during WW2. I love him very much, but he is a rabid witness as you can imagine with that much of his life invested in it.

I am not going to leave my wife for any reason. I just wanted to get that out of the way. I've been leading a double life for many years. I mean going to meetings service etc. I'm even a servant who gives public talks. My wife knows the truth of course, but says to wait on Jehovah. My trouble is that this is driving me crazy inside. I dont want to be a hypocrite of any kind. My wife and I now turn in time but don't actually go out. She says we'll make up for it next month. The truth is she hates going out in service as much as I do.

What is the answer? all fo our friends are witnesses. These are people we like very much. I don't want to just throw all those connections away.

Anyway thats all I can muster at the moment. I look forward to any advice you might be able to give.

Lot

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The DFing of Sister M

by Bonnie_Clyde in

this is a true story although it happened many years ago.

in the early 1960's, the wife of our po (then called congregation servant) studied with a very sweet old lady in her eighties.

this lady loved her bible and truly loved god.

Lot

Jean,

Point taken. What I was trying to say in the last part of the comment(and not doing a very good job) was that I didn't want this to become about whether or not the KJV was acceptable or not. It should be about the sister who was DFed. Again your points are well taken.

Thanks,

Lot

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The DFing of Sister M

by Bonnie_Clyde in

this is a true story although it happened many years ago.

in the early 1960's, the wife of our po (then called congregation servant) studied with a very sweet old lady in her eighties.

this lady loved her bible and truly loved god.

Lot

I know EXACTLY what I am talking about. After all I was talking about me and what I do. It is pretty arrogant of you to say otherwise. It seems that you like to do what you accuse the WT of doing when you twist my words. I said that DFing this sister because she used the KJV did not represent the views of the WTS and that cannot be challenged. Show me anywhere in print where the WTS has ever made such a statement. Bodies of elders do many things that are out of line with the WTS, but they did not DF this sister and use the KJV as the stated reason in their correspondence with the WTS. This is all I am going to say on this matter because it doesn't seem to be as important as we are making it.

Lot

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The DFing of Sister M

by Bonnie_Clyde in

this is a true story although it happened many years ago.

in the early 1960's, the wife of our po (then called congregation servant) studied with a very sweet old lady in her eighties.

this lady loved her bible and truly loved god.

Lot

Just to set the record straight on the KJV. I have only used the KJV in the service for 15 years of active witnessing. I know many others who do the same because of the area of the country in which we live. I have done so in the presence of many CO's and even did so At Pioneer school.

I don't say this to justify the DFing of this sister. I have no idea of the circumstances and I don't believe in this practice anyway, but the stated reason given by your father is not represented by the WTS.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-5-05 WT Study (Resurrection)

by blondie in

"i have hope toward god .

over the hope of resurrection of the dead i am being

the resurrection hope draw them closer to god?

Lot

I don't want to sound too critical as I enjoy most of your posts especially on the study articles, but in this one you spend too much time picking apart every little detail. This could be done with any writing on any subject. It doesn't hurt too admit valid points even when they come from the WT.

Lot

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E-Watchman...

by Tuesday in

jw
friends

i'm reading through a bit of the e-watchman website and forum after seeing he was disfellowshipped, maybe because i'm not a longtime reader or whatever but what's the deal with the site?

it seems to me that he's trying to get people to believe his interpretation of the bible and wt teachings instead of the way the elder's and society make you interpret it.

at least my view, am i correct in this, is there someone who can give me a quick run-down of what the e-watchman is and what's up with his site?

Lot

Whacko is putting it mildly. This guy wants to be the FDS all by himself.

Lot

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"Organized to do Jehovah's Will" - anybody get the book yet?

by ithinkisee in

i'm heading out in a moment to the meeting.

just wondering if anyone had a chance to actually flip through the pages yet?

funny how the wt study for today is basically a "never question jehovah or his organization" and we get a new organization book.

Lot

No mention of blood in the main text.( That I have seen yet.) Disassociation was mentioned of course and the example given would be joining a group that has practices not in harmony with the organization. Blood is mentioned in the questions regarding Baptism. "Why should christians abstain from blood and what does it mean to do so?" We all know the answer to that question. Ha.

Terminology such as a change from book study conductor to overseer.

Lot

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-20-05 WT Study (complete article)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 3-20-05 wt study

(february 1, 2005 issue date)

review comments

Lot

What is the obsession with trying to justify everthing anyone in the Bible ever did? Especially Lot and David and Abraham. It was hard to set through that study today and not comment. If I had, my wife would have killed me.

Lot

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"Organized to do Jehovah's Will" - anybody get the book yet?

by ithinkisee in

i'm heading out in a moment to the meeting.

just wondering if anyone had a chance to actually flip through the pages yet?

funny how the wt study for today is basically a "never question jehovah or his organization" and we get a new organization book.

Lot

Hello everyone, this is my first post. So go easy on me. I got the book today and didn't see much difference than what the old OM book had. Just updated terminology.

Lot