Mr.D.Frost

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  WHY DID YOU'S LEAVE THE WTS

  by mormon 4 life in

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  that's sumthi_k ive alway's wa__ted to _o..............why you left

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  my initial reason for dwindling was due to my best friend loosing his father (and elder at the time) and the lack of support he had due to his struggle with being an active publisher. I couldn't believe these people were leaving this child (only 16) alone to fend for himself! I was his cornerstone sotaspeak, and always made sure I was there for him. Even when everything went really bad and he was addmited into a pysch ward. I never stopped coming by to see him. He left home (from a drunk mother) and lived on his own from 16 and up and had a tough time)
  
  I was starting to become inactive and hanging around with people who were confused (like I was). I never held anyone in contempt by what they did and their past. I thought these people had some amazing traits!
  
  A so called good friend of mine ( who was struggling while growing up and rebelious, I always hung around, and never shunned. I just didnt agree with that, despite the fact I was "spiritually healthly and baptised) But once the tables turned, it was as if him and his family dropped me like a hot coal. I was disinvited from his wedding. Soon more followed in those footsteps. And I was left ostracized along with "pyscho" This is where everything went downhill.
  
  My "psycho" friend had picked up smoking, and I did too. More and more of our "close" friends started to drop out of the picture. Even the fellow who asked me to be his best man at his wedding. Slowly wanted nothing to do with me. ( I cried myself to sleep sometimes, as I just didnt understand why)
  
  Eventually I told everyone to f.uck off. Grew a beard/goatee and went to the conventions/meetings a "rebel". Wore as much as I could to draw attention to myself, nice shiney extravagant 300.00 shoes, suits as expensive as I could afford, and hung around with a very "spiritiually sick" group of people. At any given time there was usually 5 or 6 attendants around us up in the nose bleeds. "monitoring" our every move. We welcomed them with open arms.
  
  There were those that shunned us and had tried to make amends (though i doubt it was sincere) and many a times I told them to "f off, no one needs friends like you" Many were a "witness" to the scene. elders and MS in my congregation who had always given me flack were now trying extra hard. I do recall at the KH where an MS well known for harassing the young males about side burns and facial hair (my side burns would have made Elvis blush), this MS would come up and pull at your facial hair. It came to a point where I was just sick of it. and the next time he attempted I grabbed his wrist and twisted it.
  
  A few months after that, I made the choice to move to BC. Where it still took me about 3 years to finally realize what was needed to be done with this organization. Both myself and my best friend (he who lost his father) live out here now. and for the better.
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  Vancouver, BC anybody?

  by G Money in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well i'll be spending the weekend way up north in vancouver and wondered who all from here is there.

  i'll be arriving friday night and leaving tuesday and would be happy to meet up with anybody.

  i'll be staying with friends.... umm i don't know where but they said about 20 minutes from the airport.

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  whats up G money. I live in Burnaby myself. Always like meeting new people Whats your plans??
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  remember apostates holding signs outside the convention?

  by in a new york bethel minute in

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  2. experiences

  i remember there was one that used to go to my hall.

  he would say hi to my dad and my dad would ignore him.

  i know now that my father feels bad for that, but at the same time he had no choice.

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  Last assembly i went to had a bomb scare. planted by supposed "apostates" under the stage, and in turn the building was evacuated. good times. Got a chance to go have a smoke. ;)
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  Ridicolous JW folklore

  by Hellrider in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the thread about this one, had k.i.s.s in the title.

  that reminded me about something funny.

  when i was a kid, the biggest rockband in the world was kiss.

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  Oh god the good ol smurfs tale that was classic. There supposedly demonized. One of my old friends back when i was still young and easily convinced, convinced a number of people that the smurf toys he had all came alive one night and tried to tie him down. Good Lord I wonder how long it took for the parents to make that kid believe that.
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  Lower Main Land Meet?

  by Mr.D.Frost in

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  i would very much like to meet some of you that live in the gva.

  perhaps over some beers, some pool or something of that nature?

  dave.

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  I would very much like to meet some of you that live in the GVA. Perhaps over some beers, some pool or something of that nature? Dave.
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  do you resent your parents for bringing you into the WTS?

  by kid-A in

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  2. child-abuse

  for those born into the wts, do you ever feel resentment towards your folks for forcing this upon you?

  i went through a stage of strong resentment and anger, but no longer feel this way.

  i think they sincerely believed they were acting in my best interests.

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  I am not angry. I don't know what I feel compasion perhaps? I came to this site approx 6months or so ago, and learned a few things that helped finalize my decision, and then left it at that. However upon my return I am seeing more things, and am disturbed, angry, sad and have even broke down to crying. I am angry that my parents as smart as they are, can follow this so blindly. I am angry as I feel like i have my hands tied behind my back. My brothers are still in, and my folks have adopted a beautiful baby girl, who will is well on her way in following suit. I am thankful however, to have stubled upon this site, and see the empathy and knowledge being passed around. I truly hope one day I can meet some of you. I feel alone in this endevour to undo whats been done. Though my girlfriend is behind me, she only understands a small fraction. I want to share the knowledge of what I am finding out with those I love dearly. But am scared. Just when I thought I could handle all of this, it comes crumbling down again.
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  Were You Ever Drunk or High At A Meeting Or In Service?

  by minimus in

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  an elder in our hall used to drink his wine before evening meetings regularly, and on more than a few occasions was "buzzed" and laughing up on the platform while giving a talk.

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  One of my younger brothers regularily went to the district conventions in Calgary High on mushrooms. lol. It was commical to say the least. No one ever knew however. Him and his budy (at the time a full time pioneer) would drink mushroom tea out of a thermos will sitting and listening to the discourse. After about 30min they disappeared. It was either that or he would bring a "slurpee" to the convention, and it would be half slurpee and half vodka. Man I wished we would have had a Lan setup to play CS at our bookstudies, perfect way to release some "spiritual" tension ;)
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  JW Ladies: starved for love?

  by 144001 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, in another thread, a poster referred to incidents of "sisters" out in "field service" attempting to "hit" on the males they encountered at the doors.

  i have personally had this experience, and also noticed that the last time i visited a kingdom hall, the females in the hall were very, very flirty (including those who were married).

  it was as if i had entered a place inhabited soley by women who had been denied male companionship for years!

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  Heck in my old congregation the ladies caused more trouble than the boys. granted the boys were far from being angels. Come to think of it, that was a very problematic congregation. good times.
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  WISHING TO LOCATE A NUMBER OF BOOKS AND LITERATURE PUSBLISHED BY WTBS

  by Mr.D.Frost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i really wish i would have transported the library of information i had, when i moved here.

  but alas i didnt, even if i did, i'm sure i still would not be able to back as far as i'd like.

  i wanted to know where i might be able to find literature ranging from the mid 1900's up to present day?

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  Mr.D.Frost

  Oh thats good to know. Thanks kwintestal Now what of old published books, brochures etc? And feel free to PM any details you might have to better my search
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  WISHING TO LOCATE A NUMBER OF BOOKS AND LITERATURE PUSBLISHED BY WTBS

  by Mr.D.Frost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i really wish i would have transported the library of information i had, when i moved here.

  but alas i didnt, even if i did, i'm sure i still would not be able to back as far as i'd like.

  i wanted to know where i might be able to find literature ranging from the mid 1900's up to present day?

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  Mr.D.Frost

  LOL. its it just for the 2003 year? regardless thats fine. I would love to have it.