The answer is yes and no. They believe what the GB tells them what the bible says. So they believe the GB's interpretation of the bible. The bible, as a whole, is pretty vague and you can make it say almost anything you want.
jula71
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Do The JW's Really Believe The Bible?
by Honesty inthey make all these claims about believing the bible but always refer questions back to the governing body of jw's.
so, who is the final authority on the scriptures for the jw's?
is it really the bible or what some men decipher to be what the bible says?
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And the 2012 Olympic Games will be awarded to . . . . .
by nicolaou inwell not new york or moscow - they've just been eliminated.
so, london, paris or madrid - who do you think will come out on top one hour from now?
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jula71
Congrats to London.
But, will it help or hurt you? Athens took a financial hit at the last one.
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Not recongnizing family
by damselfly ini have been out if the jw's since i was 18 and i moved clear across the country.
i moved back into my hometown around 3 years later, and promptly got kicked when i was down by the jc ( who lied about their reasoning.. but that is a different thread entirely!!!!).
so needless to say i no longer have a family of any kind.last night i was in the grocery store and noticed that a woman was passing by with her cart and sort of half smiling / half sad looking at me.
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jula71
Yet they say they do it out of "love", it truly is sad. I hope you get a chance to see her again and let her know you have never been better.
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Back from the DC
by jula71 infirst they should have changed "godly obedience" to "society obedience".
i have never heard obey the gb pushed so hard in all my years as i dub.
it was amazing.
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jula71
Funny you should say that...there was a demonstration with a brother "kind"
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Medicinal marijuana
by jula71 ini've heard from the "society" that prescription drugs under a doctor's care is acceptable regarding the "keep your body clean" excuse they give smoking.
what about medicinal marijuana, which is legal in some states and gaining popularity?
i've checked the dub "library" and found very little.
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jula71
Decided that eating the herbs for their benfit was fine, but smoking was un natural and therefore wrong.
That's were it gets a screwy. So why is chewing tobacco or snuff wrong? Likewise, if cloves on ham is OK why are clove cigarettes wrong? That's my point, and much the point of C of C, they tend to make things up as they go along, mostly for show.
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Paul?
by DJ ini've recently been told two conflicting things from 2 different jws.
one says that paul went straight to heaven at death and the other one denied that as not ever taught.
who is in line with wt teachings?
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jula71
Here is all I could find :
*** w82 4/1 p. 22 The Kingdom and the Resurrection Hope ***
Time of the "First Resurrection"
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The Scriptures link this "first resurrection" with Christ’s "presence [Greek, parousia]." (1 Corinthians 15:23) The apostle Paul writes: "The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ [starting from the first century and up to Christ’s coming to the spiritual temple in 1918] will rise first." Paul then goes on to say that the anointed Christians "who survive to the presence [parousia] of the Lord," and who therefore die during the parousia, will be immediately resurrected and "caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air." (1 Thessalonians 4:14-17) They do not have to "sleep" in the grave, awaiting the resurrection. At death they are "changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye."—1 Corinthians 15:51, 52, Revised Standard Version.9
Events in fulfillment of Bible prophecies indicate that Christ’s presence, or parousia, began in the momentous year 1914. (Matthew 24:3, 7-14) Then "the kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord [Jehovah] and of his Christ." After this world-shaking event "the appointed time for the dead to be judged" came. This judging and the rewarding of those worthy began with those sharing in the "first resurrection" from Christ’s coming to the temple onward. (Revelation 11:15-18) Those anointed Christians who die faithful after the setting up of God’s kingdom are called "happy." Why so? Because theirs is an instantaneous resurrection, allowing them immediately to take up their new duties with Christ Jesus in heaven.—Revelation 14:13.10
The resurrection of the entire number of 144,000 anointed Christians called to reign with Christ in heaven is appropriately called the "first resurrection." This is so because it precedes in time the resurrection to life on earth of mankind in general, the 144,000 becoming "firstfruits to God and to the Lamb." (Revelation 14:1, 4; James 1:18) This puts them in a position of importance, since no other humans can "be made perfect apart from" these 144,000 priests, kings and judges. (Hebrews 11:40b; Revelation 22:1, 2) Furthermore, it is superior to any earthly resurrection, the 144,000 being raised "in the likeness of his Christ’s resurrection" to incorruptible, immortal life as spirit sons of God.—Romans 6:5.*** w59 6/1 p. 347 The Resurrection Hope ***All these will share with Jesus in the first resurrection, he having been the first to experience it. Like him they must first have been born again and begotten to a living heavenly hope by God’s will and his holy spirit. They must have the witness of the spirit that they are God’s sons and, like Jesus, must prove faithful until death. Fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that the resurrection of these body members of Christ began when he came to his house for judgment in 1918. Only a remnant of this 144,000 remain, and these experience the first resurrection upon their death, even as Paul shows: "We shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet."—John 3:5; Rom. 8:16; 1 Cor. 15:51, 52.
The dates are very vague, but these point it to be 1918......i always thought 1919 ?!?!?!
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Gays and the Bible.
by gumby infirst of all.....i ain't bashin gays here......just have a question.. this morning i read in the paper that the united church of christ has unanimously approved of same sex marriage.
this now is the largest protestant sect who has approved of gay marriages.. my question is.......how does religion justify a way of life the bible condems as sinful?
what is their scriptural argument to justify this action as proper?.
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jula71
It's all in the interpretation. For example, it says, "men who lie with men"
lie = untruth
So it looks like it's condemning the GB, IMO.
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Paul?
by DJ ini've recently been told two conflicting things from 2 different jws.
one says that paul went straight to heaven at death and the other one denied that as not ever taught.
who is in line with wt teachings?
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jula71
This is one of the sketchiest of all doctrines. But the line is, after a 3 1/2 year war Jesus had the heavens cleansed and the 144,000 that were "waiting" were then raised in 1919. I remember there was something in the Revelation book about it, I'll have to look it up when I get home.......
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"The Truth" about Higher Education
by Ozner ini am a longtime witness (35 years), born "in the truth" and raised up in the 70's.
higher education.
at that time, i agreed with it.
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jula71
they discouraged higher education, and yet the faithful bros that actually made it through higher education with their faith intact, seemed to always "go places" in the org.
You forget.....it's ok...as long as it benefits them. Like law school for example, if you do it to be a lawyer and make some $$, WRONG!! but if you to help dub's in abuse cases, custody battles, or blood issues, your doing a fine thing.
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Medicinal marijuana
by jula71 ini've heard from the "society" that prescription drugs under a doctor's care is acceptable regarding the "keep your body clean" excuse they give smoking.
what about medicinal marijuana, which is legal in some states and gaining popularity?
i've checked the dub "library" and found very little.
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jula71
I've heard from the "society" that prescription drugs under a doctor's care is acceptable regarding the "keep your body clean" excuse they give smoking. What about medicinal marijuana, which is legal in some states and gaining popularity? I've checked the dub "library" and found very little. Has anyone ever asked what the policy is on that?