This is one of the reasons I'm at the point where I hate the organization. We're all apostates because we question and look for answers. Sorry to say there may be no help for him untill he's ready to look for answers himself. That's how I was, terrified of apostates, till I learned the real truth.
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How Can I Reassure Him?
by misspeaches ini have a friend who has been raised a jdub all his life.
he is what you would classify as 'weak' and leading a double life.
in fact he has admitted to me that he is gay and had some gay encounters.
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How Can I Reassure Him?
by misspeaches ini have a friend who has been raised a jdub all his life.
he is what you would classify as 'weak' and leading a double life.
in fact he has admitted to me that he is gay and had some gay encounters.
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jula71
Ya, bring him to the board, sounds like he's programmed pretty good....but if that's the case him may now want to dig for the truth. Pretty tough spot........
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help me!
by kerseygurl inwhere do i begin?
i can't believe i'm even here...i am a 20 year old female and have been dating a jehovah's witness for 4 and 1/2 years.
until recently, we've been completely and utterly devoted to each other.
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jula71
First, welcome to the board
he has asked me often if I would attend meeting with him and try to accept his faith. Unfortunately, I have never went with him. I just can't bring myself to.
Here I would advise you trust your instincts. Once you step into a meeting the pressure to accept a
biblewatchtower study will be incredible almost relentless. Trust me, but the heart of the matter is, I know you know it but don?t want to hear it, is to break up or take some time off to assess the situation. I?ll give you a little prospective from his end, his parents will be rabid in trying to have him break it off. JW?s strongly believe anyone that is not baptized as a JW, is ?bad association? and should not be kept company with. And I?m sorry, I can promise you that is what they are telling him. I hope I was some help, but trust your instincts. And follow your head. -
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UN/Watchtower/Who/
by Voyager inaccording to my little cousin who was (never) one of jehovah's witnesses, i have been doing my (research) wrong.
he told me that if i wanted to find out information about the watchtower and the united nations, then i would need to start typing in (numbers) instead of letters and words into my search engines.
here is what he told me!-----see below:.
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jula71
Wow, here's a page I just found: http://www.parkridgecenter.org/Page501.html
WHY DON'T MORE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE SOCIETY'S INVOVLMENT IN THIS!!!!!A Park Ridge Center project by Paul D. Numrich
The United Nations can never be the same again." Thus Bawa Jain, Secretary-General of the Millennium World Peace Summit of Religious and Spiritual Leaders, described last year's Summit at the UN.
"Just the mere presence of all these religious leaders will in itself have a transformative process in the future work of the United Nations," Jain added. The Park Ridge Center, through our Religion Counts project, is tracking the hope of such a transformation.
The Center's connection with the UN goes back to the UN's International Conference on Population and Development convened in Cairo in 1994. The charged atmosphere that emerged there as religious and secular voices debated hot-button issues spurred thoughts about religion's role in public dialogue.
"Should religions and religious people be represented at local, national, or international forums where there are certain to be controversial issues of public import?" asked Martin Marty and others in the subsequent Center report Religion and Public Discourse: Principles and Guidelines for Religious Participants. Are the risks of religious obstinacy or incivility about volatile social issues worth an invitation to discuss? In that report we supported taking such risks so that religion might count in arenas like the UN, although we advised that discourse be both informed and civil.
We expect that Religion Counts will help us learn how religious perspectives and groups operate at the UN, and enable us to describe the role religion plays in the interrelationships of UN agencies, government missions, and related religious and secular actors. Our findings may also advance the UN conversation on the role of religion and help non-governmental organizations assess their effectiveness at the UN.
Religion Counts features a major research component at the UN, including informant interviews, on-site observations at UN headquarters, NGO case studies, commissioned scholarship, and other research strategies. Three Center associates are gathering and analyzing data.
To date, we have conducted over fifty formal interviews. These include representatives from twenty religious NGOs, eighteen secular NGOs, eleven UN officials as high as the under-secretary-general level, and three high-level informants on governmental or intergovernmental bodies. One question on our interview protocol has elicited fascinating personal vignettes from these individuals who give their lives to international service: "What formative experiences or perspectives have brought you to where you are now?"
We have also observed three major UN events: the Beijing Plus 5 Conference on Women in May?June 2000, the Millennium World Peace Summit in August 2000, and the January?February 2001 preparatory meeting for the General Assembly's follow-up to the World Summit for Children.
One outcome promised by Peace Summit organizers was the establishment of a permanent UN council of religious and spiritual advisors, with details to come. The likelihood of such a permanent advisory council depends on the cooperation of the world's religious and spiritual leaders and the value that the UN would give to the contributions of such a body. While the UN already works with many religious NGOs, they must be deemed compatible with UN ideals, amenable to UN procedures, and valuable in attaining UN goals. A group's attitudes and actions can deprive it of the opportunity to participate.
Our two case studies of religious NGOs active in the UN include a Christian humanitarian organization that focuses on disaster relief, development, and conflict resolution work in over eighty countries. It is one of the "big eight" NGOs in the world for the market share of monies it handles. The other NGO has distinguished itself in peace building and conflict resolution. After numerous interviewees identified this group as a model of religious participation in the UN system, we felt compelled to look at it further.
We expect to publish analytical "maps" explaining religion's role in the UN system, followed by a book-length expansion of these maps. These publications will appeal to readers interested in the intersection of religion and international politics and will be especially useful to those inside or outside the UN system who wish to understand religion there.
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Johnnie Cochran the lawyer just died.........
by jula71 injust saw the news flash, no details yet
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jula71
Oh Bavman
truly bad
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Name your new "Wild Beast"
by jula71 inok, in the ever-changing world of ?new light?
who is going to be the new ?wild beast??
i was just watching the news and the un is in some pretty bad trouble, teenage prostitution scandal, oil for food scandal, ect.. it seems that they are slipping quickly into insignificance.
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Ya, I was thinking the EU, with France banning r eligious objects in schools.
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Name your new "Wild Beast"
by jula71 inok, in the ever-changing world of ?new light?
who is going to be the new ?wild beast??
i was just watching the news and the un is in some pretty bad trouble, teenage prostitution scandal, oil for food scandal, ect.. it seems that they are slipping quickly into insignificance.
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Ok, in the ever-changing world of ?new light? who is going to be the new ?Wild Beast?? I was just watching the news and the UN is in some pretty bad trouble, teenage prostitution scandal, oil for food scandal, ect.. It seems that they are slipping quickly into insignificance. The JW?s teach it is the UN that will turn on and destroy the world of false religion. In all seriousness, if the UN demanded that all religion be outlawed, how many countries would go for that? That would dictate that a new ?wild beast? would have to be named. Who will it be?
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Wow, Jeannie, always with a thought p rovoking question. How can I explain it? I have always read it, and I have always believed but only believed what I was told. Now I almost don?t know what to believe. Many Biblical stories and texts just aren?t logical. I would tend to think a truly loving God would make his will more than a matter of blind faith.
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Johnnie Cochran the lawyer just died.........
by jula71 injust saw the news flash, no details yet
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Why is an elder removed?
by purplesofa inthere is an elder at my hall that was removed last week.. he was not df, he still is in good standing.
he did not request it.. how can an elder be removed?.
what is the process?.
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But on the flip side it depends who the Elder is. In my city, different hall though, the P.O.'s son was a wicked hell raiser. I mean, no lie, getting hammered every weekend, and having a "worldly" girlfriend, ect.. But still in good standing.... go figure