I know the feeling...it's like that sometimes...but when i get depressed i just let it ride. Play some music...or just sit in silence...or cry and let it all out. What works the best for me is taking a walk sometimes i'll go to the park with a friend and have a drink and just chill
swiftbreeze
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I'm so depressed, but I luv you guys ...
by talesin in... what can i say, except, okay, i am being needy, but what's wrong with that???
hahahaha j/k.
hell, can't we i just be real for a change?.
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Where can i find the book crisis of conscience?
by swiftbreeze in.
is it available in main stream book stores?
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Is it available in main stream book stores?
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A possible reason WHY, the 'New System' was never a Reality to us.
by gumby inperhaps i'm wrong, but this is a possible explanation.i was always taught that a new system would soon replace the old one.
in this new system there would be no more war, everyone would eat from his own 'fig tree', they would build houses and love one another.. .
in every publication that depicted this new system.....it was a picture of a beautiful lush productive earth, people were carrying baskets of vegetables and fruit walking together being of different decent, the men were bulding houses with smiles on their faces, and the children were playing with the animals.
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I stayed up all night reading the gospel now i'm not sure if i'm fully correct i still have more reading to do
but from what i gather. There is a scripture where paul tells them that hope isnt seen. You don't know what your hope is, for if you did it wouldnt be hope. When we have troubles what do you often say? I hope for the best, alot of times we don't know what the outcome will be. When the sinner died next to Jesus he told Jesus that he believed him and Jesus said that he would be with him in his kingdom. Jesus did not go into an explanation on what part the man would have nor did the man ask. He just accepted it. JW only add burden to themselves when they speculate on such things.
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I believe the Bible. The thing is: we are all the same yet we are all different. The bible is meant to apeal to all of mankind yet it is constructed to help all of us individually because we all are different. The most important part for me is finding the truth. All my life i have believed that the JW held the absolute truth and i believed it with all my heart, though there have been many times where i have had doubts. Like the first time i came across the teaching of the Trinity. for some reason i believed it although i was being taught something different. The main message that i'm learning now and really trying to wrap my mind around is that the gospel Jesus taught was for us to be loving and merciful while upholding in our own lives God's basic standards which if you think about it, are not burdensome. Although from time to time we will fall short of these but that is where Jesus ransom falls into place for us because we can be forgiven. Yes there are places in the bible where it seems that women get the short end of the stick but there are places where women are held in the highest regard. Rahab saved the Hebrews. A woman was Jesus dearest friend. A harlot washed Jesus feet with perfumed oil...He didnt say "you bought that with trick money" he accepted it. A woman saved her people when her husband was being a complete ass. Jesus came from a woman. A woman saved moses ....and on and on. Man takes the bible and twist the meaning making people feel worthless and disregarded.
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How JW are controlled
by swiftbreeze ini was raised around the "truth" all my life.
i'm not disfellowshipped nor have i dissassociated myself.
some of you have had some interesting experiences.
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After reading quite a few posts I'm able to actually laugh out loud at alot of the things i took so seriously.
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What did you learn as a JW, in all those years?
by JH inafter all these years of going to meetings, what did the average jw learn?
(add to the list).
1. god's name is probably jehovah or yahweh .
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I learned:
Don't ask questions just underline the answers
To hate the "world" because Jesus loves me
the "world" hates me because Jesus loves me
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Why remember the bad treatment?
by Joker10 inthere are people who have had bad experiences and don't look back.
but many people on this forum remember it and post about it almost, if not, everyday.
personally, i've had my share of bad moments.
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When a person is hurt they look for aid....when you cut your finger you put a bandaid on it. you check it from time to time to see if it is healed. Once the cut is healed the bandaid comes off and you move on.
alot of people have been hurt or are hurting and are looking for aid. For me i'm going through a healing process once i am healed i will move on.
What is your purpose for reading the posts?
here is a line from a movie:
"This is a get over it generation. Why don't you just get over it? You get fired from your job after 20 years of faithful service...get over it.. your mate cheats on you....get over it.. Have you ever had something that you just can't get over?"
some people have served this organization for many years...some their whole lives..they feel abused and cheated after many years of faithful service...and they just can't get over it...
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How JW are controlled
by swiftbreeze ini was raised around the "truth" all my life.
i'm not disfellowshipped nor have i dissassociated myself.
some of you have had some interesting experiences.
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Oh here's another one:
When i filed for divorce my ex husband was told by his elders what the divorce papers should state. I told him that the Law mandates how the divorce papers should be written up not the elders. Then they demanded to see the divorce papers. I told my ex he would be a fool to show them the papers...it's none of their business. They also told him to quit his job because he was missing meetings because of his work hours. I feel sorry for him i want to tell him what i've been learning but i know this will only cause more problems, he has custody of our son and i don't want him to give me problems on visitation. He'll say i'm an apostate and fear for our son's "spiritual safety".
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How JW are controlled
by swiftbreeze ini was raised around the "truth" all my life.
i'm not disfellowshipped nor have i dissassociated myself.
some of you have had some interesting experiences.
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Thanks!
I went to visit an old friend and she was like...what are you going to do? I told her "live my life, what else can i do? crawl under a rock?" She looked at me with so much fear and worry. The thing is her hair was falling out and her house was a complete wreck, she looked like she was on the brink of a nervous breakdown and she asked me what was i going to do. I feel like i've just stepped out of the matrix...i wasnt living life... i spent all my time creating a false reality.
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How JW are controlled
by swiftbreeze ini was raised around the "truth" all my life.
i'm not disfellowshipped nor have i dissassociated myself.
some of you have had some interesting experiences.
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swiftbreeze
Hello everyone,
I was raised around the "truth" all my life. I'm not disfellowshipped nor have i dissassociated myself. Some of you have had some interesting experiences
Here's one of Many:
I had just got babtized and everyone was so happy for me and said how i was progressing. One of the elders decided he wanted to use me on a assembly program to do a demonstration. Well at the time i had just graduated from HS and had started working (college was a spiritual no no) so when i had some free time, i would hang out with other young people from the KH. Well my aunt went to the elders and told them that she thought i was coming in too late. so they formed a committee and we had a meeting about me coming home after 11:00. I told them that i wasnt getting into trouble but i was just going to the movies, bowling and the beach etc...they told me that maybe my friends were bad associates and even if i wasnt getting into trouble it was sure to come. but i went on to explain how my friends attended all of their meetings went in field service and were in good standing. we were out of school and working most of us didnt get off work until after 6:00 so that didnt leave us alot of time to go out that is why we would not get home until around 11:00 or 12:00 at night.
They told me that it didnt look good for one of Jehovah's people to come home that late and what would my neighbor's think. I said they wouldnt think anything i'm a young person, young people go out to social functions...but that i would make an effort to come home earlier and maybe restrict my social activities to the weekend. They said i needed to dedicate more time to field service. well later that week he told me that he wasnt going to use me for the demonstration. I asked him why but he never gave me a reason. I was really hurt by that. not because i wasnt going to be in the demonstration but i knew why he took me off and i knew that i wasnt doing anything wrong. Who's business is it anyway what time i came home? What happened to having and being in control of your own life? i wondered if the christian's In Jesus time was this watched, checked and controlled in this manner.
I told my husband this story and his reply was: "Thats real crazy.. why did you allow this type of control over you?"
The thing is when you are raised in this environment you don't know anything else. This is the way it is.
You abide by the instructions given and if you don't, you are considered rebellous and bad even if you're not disfellowshipped there are always underline actions taken to punish you somehow...like you won't get called on to give comments, you won't get talk assignments, the friends will gossip and say you're not good association then you won't get invited to social gatherings...You don't have "worldly" friends because that a (spirtual no no) you don't associate with your "worldly" family because that a (spiritual no no) so what do you do? Fall in line.