The statement that your niece has the option of making "worldly" friends AFTER making Jo Ho ones is just a stunt. This is in the same vein as "Give the truth 1 year and then we'll respect your decision if you choose not to." Or "Give pioneering just one year to see if it's for you. It's the incrementalism that makes me puke. Carrot and stick, carrot and stick, stick and carrot!
When I was baptised in my youth no matter what I did it was never good enough. I'd get 20 hours of field service in each month of summer instead of getting a "Good Job!!!" from the elders I'd get, "Wasn't that spiritual? Now just think how much better you'll feel when you auxillary pioneer." So I'd auxillary pioneer for a month. THen it became.... "Why don't you just pioneer full time?" Never enough.
Some how your family thinks (as to most Jo Ho's) that as long as they drag their kids to meetings and service somehow they will turn out ok. Don't spend quality time with them. Don't develop a strong bond with them. Don't let them have UNCONDITIONAL love. Just drag their butts to meetings. What a horrible way to live.
I'm so glad I broke that circle of stupidity.
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My Stupid JW Mother and her Circular/Warped Reasoning
by Wild_Thing ini am so upset right now that i cannot even get my thoughts clear enough to explain what just happened.
i just know i need to vent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
background: my 17 yr. old neice doesn't want to be a witness.
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What kind of people are attracked to the JWS?
by new boy inmostly i'd say unhappy ones!
i look back at my life, and say it was my unhappy mother, who infected my family.
it was perfect for her.
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It attracks unhappy people that want to feel superior by their suffering. This suffering for God complex is a strange one. I have SACRIFICED so much for serving God, therefore I am a better Christian. It gives them an excuse not to succed in live, career, or emotional well being and then use that as a reason for how much they have given for God.
That is why there are so many meetings, service requirements, books, pamphlets, etc... for people. The burden of doing all these things makes them feel better. Things are shitty right now....they are supposed to be that way since the "world" is such a horrible, ugly place.
It allows them not to do personal self improvement and just say "I'm unhappy, but that's ok, because in the new system I'll be happy." What a crock! How many of you can say that you would want to live forever with these miserable bastards. They have never been happy, don't know how to be happy, and have allowed themselves the cop-out of .... God will make me happy someday in the future so why figure it out myself. And besides...all these happy worldly people are going to be killed anyway. -
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How Many Of You "Bumped" Your Field Service Hours?
by EvilForce inhow many of you bumped up your field service hours so you could keep the elders off your back?
our congo had a 10 hour "soft" target for guys.
however, if you didn't meet the 10 hours you got your "privledges" reduced or revoked.
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How many of you bumped up your field service hours so you could keep the elders off your back?
Our Congo had a 10 hour "soft" target for guys. However, if you didn't meet the 10 hours you got your "privledges" reduced or revoked. -
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It's Proof! Why We Can Trust the FDS (The OD Book Chap 3)
by ezekiel3 infrom the new organized to do jehovah?s will (od) pages 18, 19. this is from a new chapter (3) in the book ?trusting the faithful and discreet slave?.
why trust "the faithful and discreet slave".
there are many reasons to have complete trust in the slave class.
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The Emporer Has No Clothes I say!!!!
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KM - Local Needs
by TheListener ini thought it would be interesting for those of us who still attend the meetings to let everyone know what our local needs part was/will be this week.
(the km allots 15 minutes to local needs at this weeks service meeting).
ours will be on meeting attendance.
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I remember a local needs talk one time about 15 years ago...
It was a part on "How To Count Your Hours In Service"
So after you leave the hall if you drive to the territory you count your time when you get out of the car to bang on the first door. However, if you bang on a Return Visit right next to the hall then you can count your drive time as "Service Time".
If a break is necessary to continue "Witnessing" (ie a 15 minute pit stop at a Mickey D's) no need in deducting that time.
If you go over 15 mins or so.... then it is a "break" and should not be counted.
He also said, "I've noticed recently teenaged ones having a little too much fun in Service... we need to remember this is serious business".
He concluded by saying that you should never round up your service time, but carry over the time. So if you have 10 hours and 45 minutes of Service time, then you turn in the 10 hours and add 45 minutes to next month. But you should never round up and deduct the 15 minutes from next month, because this was like robbing Jehovah.
This was the same elder who a few weeks earlier laughed at the Jewish leaders of Jesus time for debating whether wiping their noses on the sabbath was considered work or not.
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Any one want some old Witness books?
by lindy3 ini have a loooot of old jw books i want rid of.
i live near wooster, ohio.
if anyone wants them, come and get them....or is you pay shipping, i will pack them up and send them off...... email me .. [email protected] and i will tell you what i have, and if you want something in particular, i will let you know if i have it.
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You know your an Apostate when
by pleaseer2001 inok jesika and i started this in chat so here it goes,.
you know your an apostate when..........worldy is a word used for your friends.
you now your an apostate when ............your parents call after five years....and say anything new!.
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....... when you have turned your "service bag" into a holder for your books like "Crisis of Cons." , "The Four Major Cults".... or in my case PORN :)
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Commenting
by DocHayes inwhat type of commenter where you?.
where you the one who answered the question word, for word from the paragraph?.
where you the little kiss @$$ who would more or less read the answer verbatum, but would also tie in a scripture?.
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I loved "that guy/gal" that would comment, "Last night I noticed this point...so I went and looked up some info...blah, blah, bullshit, etc... and before I knew it 3 hours had passed". It was a competition of suffering. Oh you spent 3 hours? I spent 3 1/2 hours. The material was REALLY deep.
I'm like, if it took you 3 hours to study for this candy ass material...puleeze.
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Morality Test: What would you do???
by BrendaCloutier inwith all your honor and dignity what would you do?.
this test only has one question, but it's a very important one.
please don't answer it without giving it some serious thought.
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Neither... I would toss him a Watchtower and Awake magazine so that he could have everlasting life....
The Awake Cover - Hurricanes. Punishment from God?
The Watchtower Cover - Great Flood of Babylon
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Commenting
by DocHayes inwhat type of commenter where you?.
where you the one who answered the question word, for word from the paragraph?.
where you the little kiss @$$ who would more or less read the answer verbatum, but would also tie in a scripture?.
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This is a little off topic. But my favorite type of commenter was the one that answered the "nebulous" question from the conductor. You know that one question the conductor "pre determined" with his study group the night before? You (cause you weren't spiritual enough to get invited to the Sat. night Watchtower Study Party) are sitting there saying to yourself WTF is he asking? And sure enough two or three of the brown nosers have their hands up and go into this long, drawn out, off topic, footnoted, cross referenced answer that made the meeting go over by 10 minutes. You think to yourself, "Wow, what kind of drugs are they doing at those Sat. night study parties?"