I'm actually working on a book as we speak. I am trying to be "unique" in my format. I was thinking about having a dozen different people "tell their stories" as this seems to be a unique perspective on the topic of Jdubs and such.
But you are right. For as tragic as I thought any of my experience were.... some of the stories on here just break your heart.
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has this happened to you???
by donald in.
back when i was in high school i was in deca...i won national trophies for public speaking.......upon gradrution...i was offerd a scolarship to a major college....for public speaking.....but the elders conveinced me to go into the pioneer service...i did a dead end job to cover expenses...and it became my permant job when i got married a copule of years later.....with no college...and almost no help to find another job...to rake care of my wife and three kids...i feel i might have thrown my life away....well onr good thing about being on dialsys is ill get an education.donald
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has this happened to you???
by donald in.
back when i was in high school i was in deca...i won national trophies for public speaking.......upon gradrution...i was offerd a scolarship to a major college....for public speaking.....but the elders conveinced me to go into the pioneer service...i did a dead end job to cover expenses...and it became my permant job when i got married a copule of years later.....with no college...and almost no help to find another job...to rake care of my wife and three kids...i feel i might have thrown my life away....well onr good thing about being on dialsys is ill get an education.donald
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Thank you frog...
I had a friend who was always amazed by these stories. He said.... "Man you ought to write a sit-com based on this crap". (I always thought of these stories more as tragic comedy...if it wasn't sooo true.) He couldn't believe this stuff ACUTUALLY happened. When my other exiled JW friends would come over and tell similar stories he was always in shock at what kind of childhood we had / or more apporpriately....didn't have. -
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has this happened to you???
by donald in.
back when i was in high school i was in deca...i won national trophies for public speaking.......upon gradrution...i was offerd a scolarship to a major college....for public speaking.....but the elders conveinced me to go into the pioneer service...i did a dead end job to cover expenses...and it became my permant job when i got married a copule of years later.....with no college...and almost no help to find another job...to rake care of my wife and three kids...i feel i might have thrown my life away....well onr good thing about being on dialsys is ill get an education.donald
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It almost happened to me. The elders did everything they could to get me not to go. They had meeting parts where they'd talk about those thinking of going off to college as being spiritually sick. I was the ONLY one of late high school age. Chastised "young people who run out and buy red sports cars"....guess who had a red Mustang that was bought a few months earlier.....for a whooping $ 5,200? Removed my "priveleges". Counsel me in private for "not waiting on Jehoba". Convinced my parents that helping me financially would be wrong. So my parents gave me $ 0 and refused to sign financial aid paperwork. I had to pay my own way working and going to school. It wasn't easy.
The disgusting part about it was that the elder leading this crusade had a college degree himself. He was a lead engineer for a power company and made $85,000+ back in the mid eighties in the mid-west. His wife of course did not pioneer either and worked full-time. When I pointed this out that he was being hypocritical about wanting me to pioneer when his own wife...or for that matter him, as she made plenty of money to support the whole family, were not pioneering, I was the one being haughty and puffed up with pride.
They would tell me how selfish I was being since this system wouldn't last past me getting a four year degree and I'd spend the last couple of years of the "old system" of things wasting my time with college. Much less all the extra schooling I would need to become a doctor....why they laughed...."A doctor? A doctor? Who's going to need doctors in a few years from now? What a selfish decision".
So I sympathise with you. My hell only last a couple of years before I went off to college. You "did the right thing" and got screwed! My younger brother "did the right thing" and is still suffering as well as he automatically is eliminated from many jobs simply because he doesn't have a four year degree.
Do you think any of those bast**rds ever bothered to apologize to me? NOPE. In fact one had the audacity to come into my clinic for consultation. I told him I wasn't the appropriate doctor for him to see. -
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Assemblies suck
by Nosferatu indidn't it drive you up the wall how, after a long week of working or going to school, you had to spend your entire weekend at an assembly?
the saturday and sunday that you could've spent catching up on some yard work, or even relaxing was wasted away by sitting in a bunch of chairs, listening to stuff you've heard many times before.. i know this used to drive me up the wall.
it felt like i had absolutely no time to myself during these weekends.
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They sucked most of the time.... meaning from the opening prayer to the closing prayer.
When I was finally 16 or so we could all "bunk" up with my other friends. We'd make our apperances before the session, during lunch, and after the session so we could make plans for going out that evening.
We'd all take our turns for various parts of the assembly, then tell each other what that pieces / parts were about in case our parents asked how we liked brother so and so's talk.
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In Knoxville Tennessee, the old Kingdom Hall will become a funeral home!
by TresHappy inwhich i find quite appropriate!.
the plan commission is reviewing all of the 1976 zoning ordinances to recommend necessary changes.
it recommended this change now because dale and connie jacobs, knoxville, the owners of funeral solutions, want to buy the jehovah's witnesses kingdom hall, 809 e. main st., to open a funeral home.
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Well now the building will only be handling a few dead souls every week instead of the 100 or so dead souls showing up 3 times a week.
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I hate living with effing psycho parents
by tsunami_rid3r ini have a mom who would rather me not go to college, keep me locked up in the house, and just serve jehovah.
i have a weak dad, instead of her being subjected to him, he's subjected to her.
he's on my side on most of the part but he's just weak on setting her straight.
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Well, I'm sure it's just your frustration showing thru with comments like that about dear old mother.
Stay focused ONLY on what really matters. What matters is getting off to college and starting your life. Keep persevering in getting money together for college. Make sure to apply for every grant & aid possible and plan on needing to support your own way...so save as much as you can, work as much as you can, and be smart. You can taste your freedom and it's JUSSSSST outside your grasp. But you are almost there....hang tough bro. Stay in the dorms do not move in with some girl...you will only be creating drama for yourself. -
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New developement
by Shawn ini have a new situation in my circumstance.
sorry to keep bothering you all but i need help, a lot of help.
my friend finally came over today and we talked for a while.
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Keep in mind the witnesses are taught that truth can be gotten from ANY bible, not just the NWT. So that helps. So keep your studies TO THE BIBLE.
I used to say to JW's, Ok, well look at the NWT, but we will also look at the same verse in the King James and the Revised Standard. No Witness can say no to this, as you are not using apostate stuff...just bibles. This will make for a slower go and whatnot...but how do you argue with the TRUTH found ONLY in the bible??? -
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Selling of a Kingdom Hall....Opinions?
by CountryBoyJim77 ini'm not sure if this is the appropriate category for this topic, so forgive me if it is not.
i'm fairly new here.
i wanted to get opinions on something.. the congregation i was raised in, built a new hall in june, 1984, when i was 7 years old.
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On quick builds they can choose to do a two weekend dealio as well. It's a bit much to get everything done so quickly...and 2 weekends allow for unanticipated problems.
I was super sceptical of any church given my JW upbringing. I had done some of my own searching and knew I would never want to attend a "church" as such. My first time to a Unitarian Church was to a "gay wedding". When the minister (she was female) asked what I thought of the service I told her it was nice..blah, blah. She asked if I ever had been to a Unitarian Church, I said no, I'm a strong believer that I don't need a church to mediate between me and God. She said "Amen to that". I proceeded to tell her about my Christian / Buddhist / Taoist hybrid belief structure, and she said she believed a lot of the same truths of those religions. She invited me to a "study" that was happening every other Tuesday night about Buddhism. I reluctently went thinking to myself...."They can't really be this inviting and open".
I show up to the first meeting ( a friend of mine that attends that church went with me) and listen to a discourse on Buddhism. This preceeded the Q&A part of the meeting. Various members of the church related how they thought Buddhism related to their everyday life, etc, etc. People would comment on what a certain passage meant to them, and others would comment saying...Wow, I never thought of it that way...I was thinking of it as such. The members there SOUGHT OUT THE GOOD IN BUDDHISM. Wow, what a change. I figured it would be a "Look how crazy these Buddhist bastards are", since that's what JW's do.
This started my association w/ the Unitarians. It's a SUPER open church. Maybe too open for some people as you can be a non-deitist and get along just fine. Everyone is there to share what God/Buddha/? means to them. It's a cafeteria style approach to religion. But they are big enough as a church to say "You're smart enough to choose your own belief structure. We are here to provide as many aspects on it as possible." The discussions are NEVER EVER you're wrong we are right. It's a "if it works for you we accept it" style. And I have found myself TRULY learning from people there. Scripture passages I had always thought of one way...another member will regale us with his/her views. It might TOTALLY be 100% different from what I thought. BUT, it get's ME thinking.
Any books / evidence / quotes are allowed from any religion. Maybe Unitarians are too liberal and progressive for some....but to me it just makes sense. As in my medical training...there are guidelines for certain treatments but based on the patient and your gut feel tell you what you should do...not an A then B, then C, then D dogma.
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What the C/O overseer said
by NoAnswers inon the brothers last talk he was talking about how we should be good host.
like abbrahan was to the angels anyways..... he went on saying that some brothers in other countries have the elders deal with their financial neeeds it sounded that they give the money to them and they share it among the congrecation.
he then went on saying that if the governing body would ask us in this country to do that what would we do ?
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Cause the Society has been so honest, forthright, and upstanding when it comes to money. End of the world next year...sell your biz...pioneer... you don't need to save for retirement.....help give to spread the word....... Did they refund any money to the brothers that gave their savings to the borg after 1975? Don't think so...who's to say you're not wrong yet again.
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What do you think the new releases will be this summer?
by truthseeker inwhat do you think the new releases will be at the dc?.
a brochure or two?
a recycled publication with a new title and look?.
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The Vomit of JW Dogma Rehased - 4th version - Revised - Upated - New Release