Posts by Nellie

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A "friend" has died.

by Nellie in

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i met this man 17 years ago - new to the city, he was an elder in the congregation.

his personality was warm and loud - (a new yorker, of course) -- i had left home, but i was reminded of home every time he opened his mouth.

one of the most endearing things about him was the way he pronounced jehovah - with an "er" at the end, more like jehover... boy was he loud and warm.

Nellie

Thanks guys . . . the funeral's on Saturday. I'll let you know how it goes. ((( Like it could somehow be fun )))

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has your language changed since you left?

by fullofdoubtnow in

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i know mine has.

i went back to my flat earlier this afternoon to pick some things up, i am moving out of there slowly, and was carrying a heavy box out to my car when i stumbled and dropped it on my foot.

it wasn't too painful, thankfully, but i came out with a stream of expletives, most of them beginning with f. when i was a jw, even thinking those words would have filled me with shame.

Another concern

by lazuli in

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i know i know, i'm so sorry to bug you guys about this but for obvious reasons i can't talk about it with anyone from the congregation and you guys are familiar with the watchtower.

in the watchtower, the woman is expected to be 'chaste.

' so i'm worried that if i decide to marry someone that is a jw if what i did before will be a problem.

Nellie

Honesty raises a good point. And it can be added to: There are some JW's with very old fashioned views about sex and everything about it.

I'd say, however, that alot of it depends on your age. Younger men, expecially those raised in the org., tend to want their brides to be virgins. Older ones, may not expect the same thing - especially if you're new to the truth.

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HELP in love with a jw woman

by kornnjw in

i love this jehovah witness, and she is driving me crazy with her meetings, watch tower booklets, conventions.

of course i do sometimes go to her weird kingdom hall.

i'm finding stuff about her i hate, like...only go on dates shaberoned don't drive with a singel guy and a single girl cus it looks bad they say.

Nellie

K - Even if she wasn't a JW my advice would be the same. End the relationship. We all have issues and pasts, but this is more. Her mental health issues will always be a cause of drama in your relationship - when you add THAT together with the indoctrination of being a JW, you have a combination that you obviously aren't capable of handling. This is absolutely no disrespect to you - but you're here looking for advice, right? Take it - end things before you find yourself trapped.

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A "friend" has died.

by Nellie in

jw
friends

i met this man 17 years ago - new to the city, he was an elder in the congregation.

his personality was warm and loud - (a new yorker, of course) -- i had left home, but i was reminded of home every time he opened his mouth.

one of the most endearing things about him was the way he pronounced jehovah - with an "er" at the end, more like jehover... boy was he loud and warm.

Nellie

MsM - no I'm not disfellowshipped or disassociated -- just disillusioned and distant

I didn't leave on a bad note with the congregation. I just left. Surprisingly, no one has shunned me publically, but then again - I really haven't ran into many of them for a while.

The reality of it is that I left of my own free will. If they were to decide to shun me, they would be doing me no harm. If I wanted to be there, I'd be there. It's a very comfortable place for me - knowing what I know.

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A "friend" has died.

by Nellie in

jw
friends

i met this man 17 years ago - new to the city, he was an elder in the congregation.

his personality was warm and loud - (a new yorker, of course) -- i had left home, but i was reminded of home every time he opened his mouth.

one of the most endearing things about him was the way he pronounced jehovah - with an "er" at the end, more like jehover... boy was he loud and warm.

Nellie

I met this man 17 years ago - new to the city, he was an elder in the congregation. His personality was warm and loud - (a New Yorker, of course) -- I had left home, but I was reminded of home every time he opened his mouth. One of the most endearing things about him was the way he pronounced Jehovah - with an "er" at the end, more like Jehover... boy was he loud and warm

I told him how much he reminded me of my family, in particular, my brother ... and years later when my mother moved to Florida and joined his bookstudy - he cared for her like a son would. The night she laid dying in the hospital, I called him and he came ... running down the hall ... and we cried together.

We've been through alot - us two . . . good and bad. We weren't friends that spoke daily - or weekly - through the years - but the feelings we had for eachother (and our families) were real. Next month will make 2 years since my mom's death. I asked him to give her funeral talk - At first he said he didn't know if he could - But then he said he "had to" - None of us thought he'd make it through it, and he almost didn't. He cried, we all cried - his tribute to my mother was wonderful - he was talking about someone he loved and we all knew it ...

I have absolutely no desire to enter a hall again - but for him I must. I hope no one decides to try to "reach out" to me and warn me about "the time being short, etc." I hope no one decides they must make a sheparding call because seeing us reminds them that they haven't seen us. But I've got to go. It's the right thing to do.

(In loving memory of Frank M.)

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Does anyone know about Charles and the Pyramid stone

by mydiscounts in

they say that at charles russell grave site there is a prymid on top i am not sure if this is true but wanted to know more because the pyramid is a sign of for great wealth and i was wondering if deep down he worshiped them.

www.freeminds.org/history/cemetary.html

Nellie

Wow! Danny's Pyramid Page link is incredible. Thanks for the post.

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I can't believe I told somebody

by Nellie in

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i had a chat with an old jw friend ... although i always knew that she was cool.

anyway, i told her to check out this site and i told her about franz' book and now she's checking us out.

welcome her friends ... she's "mydiscount"

Nellie

I had a chat with an old JW friend ... although I always knew that she was cool. Anyway, I told her to check out this site and I told her about Franz' book and now she's checking us out. Welcome her friends ... she's "mydiscount"

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When did you realize that you were part of a cult?

by JH in

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as a jw, i never thought that i was in a cult.

i thought that other religions were a cult, but not us.. what made you realize that the jw's is a cult?

Nellie

Not until I got far enough away to look back and see it with some perspective. There are a few a few trigger words that always elicit an immediate negative reaction with JWs. Two that immediately come to mind are cult and apostate. Even after watching that infamous Dateline interview and agreeing that there was a serious problem exposed, I turned to my son and said "we're NOT a cult" - that's just ridiculous.

I can now see it for what it really is - a cult - but aren't all religious groups really?

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My Dad's story

by coffee_black in

freedomlovers post about her dads letter got me thinking about my dad, in fact, it sounds like it could have been written by my dad.

every once in a while it really hits me that he is no longer here to talk to.

unlike most of you, i wouldnt have been afraid to approach him with questions or doubts.

Nellie

I got misty reading your post! One day I'll write about my Dad - I lost him a year ago . . .