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  My Bethel Experience Part 10

  by new boy in

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  there were guys at bethel, who had great jobs........like don brouex.....he was the receptionist at the 124 desk....checking in and "checking out" ......all the bethel tours and "hot" sisters......on there way through the "home tour"............that my friend, is not a real bethel job.. there were guys at bethel, that had great congergations with maybe only 2-4 bethelities in their halls.

  one hall, midtown had over 80 bethelites there.............. 3 old ladies 4 kids and a dog.

  odds of getting a home cook meal on sunday 0%.

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  Newboy you have a PM
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  My Bethel Experience Part 9

  by new boy in

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  the the worst thing, someone could call you at bethel, was a "jack".............. as in " that guy is a real jack, he doesn't work at all".

  the other term not used very much anymore, was "pot licker" used basically the same way.there has been some bad things done at bethel.

  you name it, someone has done it...........but the absolute worst possible thing, a bethelite could do is be a theft!

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  I enjoyed reading this. Growing up in NYC, we knew lots of Bethelites - I always wondered why they didn't talk much about being there.
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  It's my party - Should we invite them?

  by Nellie in

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  i've got extended family that live out of state who are active witnesses and my husband's father is an elder.

  my family is so not a part of our lives, that the only time we speak are for funerals.

  i don't even hear about births anymore.

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  You know New Boy I think you're right. I want to invite them, but I don't want them to come . . .

  Just as a clarification - this family dysfunction existed even when we were active dubs. I didn't understand it then and I still don't today.
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  It's my party - Should we invite them?

  by Nellie in

  1. jw
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  i've got extended family that live out of state who are active witnesses and my husband's father is an elder.

  my family is so not a part of our lives, that the only time we speak are for funerals.

  i don't even hear about births anymore.

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  The only one I would miss is my father-in-law. But he's so full of disappointment in us that I'm sure he would be a real downer. Actually, I'm not even sure if he would come. But I can't see us not inviting him - That's really the right thing to do. It's not like we plan on having an orgy or anything crazy, but I'm sure he'll notice that nobody from the congregation is there and feel uncomfortable. And then if he doesn't come, that will be just another hurt - him choosing not to come...
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  Native American Wisdom

  by lovelylil in

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  i wanted to share some pearls of wisdom from a book of native american proverbs.

  btw: anyone here from a native american background?.

  when we show our respect for other livings things, they respond with respect for us - arapaho proverb.

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  I am mostly American Indian. I believe the Lakota Tribe. My mother's mother was 100% indian, but she died when my mother was 6 and we have absolutely no information on her family. My father's family is said to have Cherokee in it, but again I have no real information.

  Through the years I've tried to do research, but have come up blank. It's something I really want to explore.
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  What makes a truly great kiss?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. physical

  now i'm not going all girly or anything but kissing is still great!

  if my wife is, for example, preparing a meal i might be able to kiss her on the side of the neck while she's peeling the potato's.

  i know what you're thinking, 'that nic's a smooth ol' romatic operator'!.

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  What makes a truly great kiss?

  The look in his eyes on his way down that says, "You are my love."

  We can't always control what happens to us in life, but we can definitely choose who we spend our lives with! I am so grateful that I choose him!
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  Dilemma.. please help

  by DeusMauzzim in

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  first of all thanks for the reactions to my first post.

  very kind of you.. i've been struggling with the following question the last few months.

  'they' are absolutely sure they have chosen their own beliefs, have researched it themselves, are thinking for themselves, and that the organization is just the whole lot of people like them.

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  I too really understand your dilemma. I remember when I was "in" hearing that the Society was a part of the UN. I will never forget my reaction - I turned to my husband and son and said, "That's apostate propaganda! The Society would NEVER be a part of the UN!" That is the mindset of most active witnesses. Even when the TRUTH is shared with them, their minds cannot accept it as truth, because it contradicts what they believe.

  It's not that they don't hear it - but they CAN'T hear it - they're minds are programmed to not accept opposition against the Mother Organization. Until they allow themselves to listen, anything you say will be rejected. Don't take it personally - they're just not ready.

  What you can say is this - I understand that you don't agree with the decisions I've made. I also know that it's futile for me to try to explain myself, because all we'll do is argue. Please accept the fact that this decision was not made lightly on my part - it was made after many hours of prayerful consideration and research. If the day ever comes when you honestly want to know what led me to reach this decision, I will be happy to share it with you. Until then, understand that I will always love you.
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  It's my party - Should we invite them?

  by Nellie in

  1. jw
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  i've got extended family that live out of state who are active witnesses and my husband's father is an elder.

  my family is so not a part of our lives, that the only time we speak are for funerals.

  i don't even hear about births anymore.

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  When I made up the guest list - they were not on it. My sister (who is hosting this event) decided to invite a cousin from out of state. This cousin has never been a witness and questioned whether her brother and our other cousins (who are witnesses) were coming. That's how this whole thing started. So last night I called the non-witness cousin and explained the situation to her. (She "praised God" that we were no longer "one of them.")

  Bottom line, these people are my family and I love them - but we're not close in the everyday sort of closeness. We're not even close in the long-distance sort of closeness. No picture exchanges, no phone calls, no nothing really. See because we don't talk, none of the family knows that we've left.

  Actually during the conversation with my cuz, we started talking about how all of the witness couples (except her brother) have all been married longer than me - and NO I have never been invited to any of their parties. Period. Even though I was in one of their weddings 27/28 years ago.

  The reality is I live in Florida - they live in Michigan, Maine, New York and Pennsylvania. I think I'll let the word leak out through my cousin and see what happens. They're the easy ones - it's that father-in-law decision that's really hard.
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  It's my party - Should we invite them?

  by Nellie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've got extended family that live out of state who are active witnesses and my husband's father is an elder.

  my family is so not a part of our lives, that the only time we speak are for funerals.

  i don't even hear about births anymore.

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  I've got extended family that live out of state who are active witnesses and my husband's father is an elder. My family is so not a part of our lives, that the only time we speak are for funerals. I don't even hear about births anymore. The last family get-together was my mother's funeral almost 3 years ago. And my father-in-law isn't much better. We talk to him maybe 4 times a year.

  So now we're having our 25th Anniversary party and my sister wants me to invite them. I'm worried about if they come, them finding out and feeling the need to "counsel" us. So, not what I want to deal with at my party.
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  The love of your life "cheats" on you....could you forgive?

  by new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the old age question............ say, your "soul mate" the love of your life, goes on a trip with some friends.........something happens one night...... they have sex with a stranger( or even a friend)............they come home and tell you what they did............they still love you.. what would you do?...............is the marriage over?

  or what?.

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  Here's when I have to say that you need to define "cheating." To my knowledge, my husband has never cheated on me. That is, had sexual relations with another woman. That definition would also be true for me to him. I have never had sexual relations with another man. However . . . there was a time when I was involved in an emotional relationship with someone. When I think back on it, I know that it hurt him (no we've never really, really talked about it) and I know that that kind of situation can be even more damaging/painful than an affair.

  Marriage is more than a sexual partnership, it's an emotional partnership. And the warm feelings that we have for our mates, should never be shared with another. It humbles me that we made it through that, and I am ever so grateful that I was smart enough not to take the physical step - because I don't think he would've forgiven me.

  It also makes it difficult for me to take a hard stand and say I'd never forgive him. I hope I never have to find out!